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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:36 GMT
#1318
Rayn specifically asked who else Sharrant had been after, so I discussed it in those terms. You're just as bad as BC.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:37 GMT
#1319
On April 24 2013 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So agreeing with your scumread on something they say without checking it out is totally what townies usually do. And letting your scumread drive the discussion when you talk with him about reads on other people is totally what townies do.

I'm kinda puzzled, how do you play this game?

None of that matters at all.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:40 GMT
#1322
On April 24 2013 17:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote:
He was after TRN, which he later dropped, and rightly so. His case was meh, but his conclusion that TRN was likely town is not one I would see a mafia in Sharrant's position make.

His read on geript seems genuine. Despite the claim, he finds geript scummy, but can't lynch him because of the sentiment that he's town for the host interaction.

I like his read on you and how he handled it. I like how he interacted with BM, it seemed honest and a real product of frustration.

He also has a scumread on Hopeless. I haven't personally looked at Hopeless, but that's another point in his favor.

In the time he has been here, I like Sharrant's contributions, even if he may be wrong about some things.


???

If Sharrant is Scum and TRN isn't then what other conclusion is he going to make? Like seriously, I'd be interested to know because there aren't many.

The part in red is just ridiculous.

Furthermore, I've seen plenty of mafia tunnel an unpopular scumread to look original. Happens all the time. I rarely see mafia back down from an early read, and even if they do, I even more rarely actually say that person is likely town and close the door on lynching them. That's not a mafia mentality.

The part in red is not ridiculous when we're discussing the NUMBER OF SHARRANTS READS. No matter whether I agree with him or not, his read on Hopeless seems genuine and not bullshit.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:41 GMT
#1323
On April 24 2013 17:39 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:36 yamato77 wrote:
Rayn specifically asked who else Sharrant had been after, so I discussed it in those terms. You're just as bad as BC.


and like an idiot you just made some bullshit up. How does the read Sharrant gave "in his position" nullify a Scum read? If you're going to make statements at least qualify them with some context.

What are you talking about?

I never said anything about "nullifying a scum read".

Ace, what the fuck?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:41 GMT
#1325
Ace
BC
Rayn
VE
CC

mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:43 GMT
#1326
On April 24 2013 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:37 yamato77 wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So agreeing with your scumread on something they say without checking it out is totally what townies usually do. And letting your scumread drive the discussion when you talk with him about reads on other people is totally what townies do.

I'm kinda puzzled, how do you play this game?

None of that matters at all.

Why exactly? Those are pretty scummy things imo.

IMO, they aren't. They don't matter at all. They're fabrications.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:47 GMT
#1329
I'll look at your other contributions, but my answers are not bullshit.

Your read on Sharrant is entirely fabricated.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#1332
On April 24 2013 17:48 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:39 Ace wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 yamato77 wrote:
Rayn specifically asked who else Sharrant had been after, so I discussed it in those terms. You're just as bad as BC.


and like an idiot you just made some bullshit up. How does the read Sharrant gave "in his position" nullify a Scum read? If you're going to make statements at least qualify them with some context.

What are you talking about?

I never said anything about "nullifying a scum read".

Ace, what the fuck?


nullifying a scum read = seeing Sharrant as Town from now on.

I've given plenty of reasons I see Sharrant as town.

Don't be mad that I'm going to fuck up your potential mislynch for tomorrow.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:51 GMT
#1333
On April 24 2013 17:47 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:40 yamato77 wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:35 Ace wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote:
He was after TRN, which he later dropped, and rightly so. His case was meh, but his conclusion that TRN was likely town is not one I would see a mafia in Sharrant's position make.

His read on geript seems genuine. Despite the claim, he finds geript scummy, but can't lynch him because of the sentiment that he's town for the host interaction.

I like his read on you and how he handled it. I like how he interacted with BM, it seemed honest and a real product of frustration.

He also has a scumread on Hopeless. I haven't personally looked at Hopeless, but that's another point in his favor.

In the time he has been here, I like Sharrant's contributions, even if he may be wrong about some things.


???

If Sharrant is Scum and TRN isn't then what other conclusion is he going to make? Like seriously, I'd be interested to know because there aren't many.

The part in red is just ridiculous.

Furthermore, I've seen plenty of mafia tunnel an unpopular scumread to look original. Happens all the time. I rarely see mafia back down from an early read, and even if they do, I even more rarely actually say that person is likely town and close the door on lynching them. That's not a mafia mentality.

The part in red is not ridiculous when we're discussing the NUMBER OF SHARRANTS READS. No matter whether I agree with him or not, his read on Hopeless seems genuine and not bullshit.


Ok, and I've seen plenty of mafia players back off their original reads to look like they aren't tunneling. Good, now that we've got the made up hypotheticals out of the way lets get back to this game.

You stated that if Sharrant was Scum, him calling TRN town eventually in his current position doesn't make sense. What position was Sharrant in? Was he in danger of being lynched? No - so how can you really glean anything from what he says about TRN's alignment at the moment? Your post screams you automatically assumed his alignment is Town and then worked backwards. If you don't know Sharrant's alignment your entire example fails hard.

Making a case on hopeless1nder doesn't mean anything. I mean you didn't even point out what about the case was rock solid, you just said "yea that's a point in his favor". That's utter bs.

I did none of that.

You're making shit up.

Lol, Ace.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:52 GMT
#1334
Haven't you two realized that I'm not getting lynched?

I mean, a good mafia team would have figured out by now that I'm not the kind of person you accuse. Mislynching me is difficult.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 08:56 GMT
#1335
Well whatever, I'm going to bed.

If you're town, Ace, we need to lynch BC tomorrow.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 09:50 GMT
#1341
1) Sharrant has been active enough for me to get a town read. It's clear from his filter that when he is here, he's involved in figuring out the game, whether I think his reads are right or not. Town reads also require far less activity to solidify than scum reads, and you should know that. A town read can be as simple as a feel from a post. I've gotten many of those feels from Sharrant's filter.

2) A mafia player in Sharrant's position would not make the read change he did. He's not under suspicion, so why is he worried about how he looks necessarily? And why does looking like you're tunneled mean you're mafia? It doesn't. It makes no sense for mafia Sharrant to call TRN off the cuff like that after casing him at the beginning. It does make sense as town, however, as he processes new information and evaluates his reads. Far more likely that he's town for that than mafia.

3) When I look at Sharrant's filter, his contributions are many. He's obviously trying, and he's not even someone I consider a particularly good player. Contrast that with BC, and his contributions, and you'll see how I get nearly all of my reads. I don't expect much from Sharrant, but what he has put forth exceeds those expectations. I expect much more from BC, but what he's put forth wouldn't even be acceptable from Kushmasta.

Do you understand now? If you're town, it's pretty fucking obvious that I'm town. I'm basically the only person who gives enough of a fuck about this game to make sure we're lynching actual mafia. You might just be confirmation biased or whatever, since I don't know what to expect from you as a player, but my gut tells me you're mafia. You seem intent on slandering my name to the thread and shooting down my perfectly good analysis at every turn.

So if you're town, address my case on BC. Do you think he's trying this game? Do you think the one post out of context with the reasoning he gives is an acceptable level of effort put forth into finding mafia for the day? Even if you think I'm mafia, don't you think it's a little suspicious that he's been unable to provide any solid analysis of anyone's posting that wasn't about policy? Where's his real case on me, if I'm the mafia here?

I daresay I'm the most involved player left in this game. What does that say about my alignment? Why aren't you doubting your scum read on me if you're town?

I just have so many questions, and I don't think you have all the answers.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 09:52 GMT
#1342
On April 24 2013 18:35 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

I might be speaking for Sharrant here, but large part of his case was founded on the fact that you defensively said: You want to lynch BM cause he's mafia, not for policy, but all the while saying that you lynch all claimed millers in earlier posts, there is no reason for BM being mafia, just policy.
And as I might add, we didn't know at that point if BM claimed, so your attack looked bad on multiple fronts.

@ Yamato


Your 5-man-scumteam seems weird, it seems focused on people who are rather at the center of attention, and you've become really spammy and seemingly nervous once contrasted by ace.

How are we supposed to know what ShiaoPi, tube, Drazak, stutters and hopeless are, for example? More information digging, less quick decisions please.

I'm not deciding anything. I'm working with my reads. Listing a bunch of lurkers means nothing to me.

And stop telling me how to play. You're like, the biggest hypocrite of all time.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 09:55 GMT
#1343
Also

BC is only at the center of attention because of me.

CC and VE aren't even being talked about, which is a crime.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 09:57 GMT
#1344
Ugh, fuck.

Now it's 5 AM and I still haven't slept.

Hopefully someone else with a brain can come in and set the record straight while I sleep.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 20:22 GMT
#1460
VE, I hope you shit leprechauns. I'm thirsty for red blood, and you're a prime suspect.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 20:22 GMT
#1461
BTW, I no longer think Ryan is mafia

It's eery how much he agrees with me.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 20:56 GMT
#1478
VE, wanna give us a WIFOM bomb about your scumbuddies before you get lynched?

I always love those.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 21:14 GMT
#1495
On April 25 2013 05:57 TheRavensName wrote:
I'm a little confused how VE's play is any different than say Oats? IT seems to boil down to the same things.

It isn't the same things, and VE is a better player than Oats.

But yeah, I'm lynching my dear friend Eyes, because he be mafiosi.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 24 2013 21:18 GMT
#1502
I'm more inclined the think you're mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
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