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On April 25 2013 01:43 ObviousOne wrote: Syl is not a project for D2 IMO. Grush did starsenses so he is town. Has he played in a game as mafia since he started doing the starsenses thing? | ||
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It's a typo, BM. Join in the fun, have a conversation with those of us that aren't vets. | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:00 Bill Murray wrote: how is that a typo? you are slipping regarding you having too much information, and therefore, mafia Like I said to someone else already, run with that if you think you can. It was a typo. Now, like I said, join in the conversation. What do you think of Sylencia's post and the fact that he did not stick around to clarify it at all? | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:04 Bill Murray wrote: makes me lean town on him, but I want to see more before it's more than a lean. sorry to doublepost. Good to know. What do you think of WoS right now? @WaveofShadows You didn't dispute me, or respond when I said Kush was super town. Am I to believe that you agree that he is town? | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:07 ObviousOne wrote: Getting on Syl for activity is like getting on Mocsta for spamming. It is what it is. From what I remember in TTABEN mafia he only really gets to post a couple times a day. Yeah it's not a great post. I'd like to see where it's headed. Let's see what he makes of it when he returns instead of starting an activity argument that he will probably feel compelled to defend himself against therefore continuing the cycle of not having time to give reads. I don't want him to defend himself, I just want him to clarify why the people he summaried were chosen, and what the end result was on the people that he did not explicitly state were scummy. I'm led to assume they're town, but I'd just like to be sure that's what he's saying. His activity isn't an issue to me, most people jump on me for my lack of activity, so I view it as null in most cases anyways. | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:14 Bill Murray wrote: i was leaning town on him until theravensname brought up some points and it made me feel like WoS is a bit opportunistic Okay, we're mostly on the same page there, then. If he had said he thought Kush was town, it would've been a big hint towards him being scum. So his last few posts actually made me think he was a little more townie again. | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:23 Sylencia wrote: I've been going through people as a collection (hence why the list is so messy), yet going through them I found myself to become more suspicious of VE and grush so far. Unless something pretty much proves them to be innocent, I don't generally find true town reads since it's dependent on having information you don't have. In any case, no one on that list (other than myself) I can say that I have a strong town read on, Wave of Shadow is probably the person on that current list I have the least suspicion on, but in any case, I am more concerned with the ones I find most suspicious, not the least. Okay, so would it be accurate to say anyone on that list not explicitly marked as suspicious ranges somewhere in slight townie-null-slight scummy? Or townie-slight townie-null-slight scummy? And is there a specific reason you chose those people to start with? And last but not least, can you give me a quick read on Yamato? | ||
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On April 25 2013 02:26 Sylencia wrote: Also, are you guys actually serious about grush starsenses things... That's like saying WoS isn't scum becuase he hasn't rolled scum. (Am I not allowed to go watch Game of Thrones after posting) I don't put any weight in it, but he hasn't popped up on my radar yet as someone I think is scummy. | ||
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Super town: BM Vivax Kush Palmar Town: Yamato ObviousOne Geript Rayne TRN Slightly town: Ace BC Sylencia Hopeless Null: Drazak Tube Mr. Cheesecake VisceraEyes WoS Grush Lynch one of these tomorrow: Clarity ShiaoPi Less good lynches, but still good lynches: Giygas Stutters695 (A better vig shot, but is very likely to be scum in my eyes) | ||
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On April 25 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm glad you seem to understand me Sharrant. I feel sorry for you (us) for wasting a good portion of D1.. :/ I'm certainly not sorry for it, I think it bagged us two scum. | ||
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On April 25 2013 04:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: My first thought after reading which role Vivax has was if he breadcrumbed that he was a mason, or with whom he was masoned. Scum killing Vivax is a concept I cannot grasp with this player field, so it had to be a blue snipe.. right? Other thought that occurs is that the scum team probably has a few vets and doesn't want to thin out the vet field as it could expose them. Welcome, Artanis. Had you read the thread at all before now? | ||
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On April 25 2013 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can you tell me why they're scum first? There is also the possibility like I said that Vivax' mason partner was scum. That way, scum would know that he's blue. I just can't wrap my head around a N1 Vivax kill. No offense to him, but there's plenty of scarier players in the game that can scumhunt better than him. [/b] Are masons able to mason starting on Day 1, or is their first possible chance to mason someone at the end of Night 1? [/b] Have you read through Vivax's filter? I would suggest you do so, and then come back and decide if you think he was shot as a snipe or because of his play. | ||
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On April 25 2013 11:08 VisceraEyes wrote: No man, if that's the case give me a bit. Okay, just let me know when you've given him a read over. | ||
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Clarity came into the thread saying that he had just found out the game started, and after an hour he claimed to have read the whole thread AND filter dived me. The thread was already huge and pretty convoluted at that point, but it still took him barely any time to go through. Then he makes his case against me, it's a wall of quotes taken out of context and words twisted. It completely lacks the understanding of someone who actually read my filter, let alone someone who actually read the game. His entire case is looking for buzzwords in my filter, and then slapping some words down. He claims I give Hopeless an easy out, when he doesn't actually understand the "pattern" I was talking about. He is entirely uninformed as to how important Bill Murray's singular post was to the thread, when he thinks that I am trying to put pressure on Bill Murray by asking him to come back to the thread. He does not realize the entire thread is waiting for that to more accurately judge the reactions of the people who have become wound up on what they thought was a claim. When I asked ShiaoPi for his reads (he had given none) Clarity states that I am scummy for asking, and that I hadn't given reads on any of those players (all of them are clearly in my filter, in fact he had already referenced one of the cases by name saying I gave him an easy out). Claims my questions to the two leading vote candidates were "scattershot" questions, showing a complete lack of understanding that they're the two people that everyone is trying to discern the alignment of the most. And seems entirely devoid of curiousity to their alignments. His next post is actually saying "I started reading, then looked at the last 2 pages, then thought I needed to post something really quick". This would explain his second post more, but then he goes back and says twice that he read the whole thread already on two different occasions. Kind of a big inconsistency. He then makes a little "Oh, woe is me, I have shown up too late today to influence the days lynch onto this guy." He then proceeds to throw doubt onto both the Yamato and the Oatsmaster lynch, both in non-constructive ways. While still being ENTIRELY DISINTERESTED IN THEIR ALIGNMENTS. He essentially says "I didn't want to read them, but they're both policy lynches and you're bad for it, but I'm not going to take the time to analyze them." Then he says he shouldn't have posted the case yet, it was weak, he didn't have enough time to make a good case, but would have felt guilty not posting anything. (I see this more as, he would have felt suspicious if he had not posted anything). He didn't want to lynch Oats, but he also "didn't want to not lynch Oats". Could you possibly be any more indecisive? Could you care less about a lynch than that? Why did he not push anyone else during this time? He gave up entirely on pushing me by this time and never pushed anyone else or dropped anymore cases. Then he starts putting suspicion on Yamato without calling him scummy, just trying to reinforce that he should have been lynched over Oats but without sticking his neck out far enough to say it. Suddenly he had four hours to read the thread before his second post, not one as he had said, but that was too little time to have more than one scum read, or make a decent case, or be able to "understand the points against Yamato and Oats". How can you have four hours to read AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT? Then suddenly it was only 2 hours he was reading, but with another panicked hour fitting inthere somewhere when he mistakenly got the idea Oats was about to be hammered. Then he finally settles on having read through everything for a total of 3 hours before he posted the case on me. He did not care about the lynch between Oats and Yamato at all, literally no interest. But despite that, he had read their filters but had no idea why either of them were getting lynched. He spent three hours to come up with a weak case that looks like 10 minutes of filter diving for quotes that can be taken out of context, and he categorically denied sharing any reads about players except for a town read on Bill Murray and another one on BloodyCobbler. This is why I'm voting Clarity today, and why everyone else should be too. | ||
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Ve is not on the chopping block either. Talk to you guys soon. | ||
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