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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 03 2013 12:45 GMT
#4441
Are you drunk?
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 03 2013 12:47 GMT
#4442
Well i''m not sure I like how BC and BM just brought each other up when they were not the current subjects of debate. But, I think I would almost rather lynch ace to free up our jailer and get enough night hit to look at
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 03 2013 12:50 GMT
#4443
TRN, why almost? Ace is objectively the best lynch today because it'll free up our JK which will screw with scum's shots on townies because they can't be certain they can shoot the towniest looking player.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 03 2013 12:59 GMT
#4444
Palmar, those reads you were planning to give if we were going to lynch you? Maybe have them ready before night ends since you probably don't get protected based on your current, ahem, "enthusiasm" in this game? Thx.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 03 2013 13:03 GMT
#4445
Hopeless, I want you to write a case on TRN to prove your towniness to us all, regardless of if you think he's scum/town/null because of it, with reasoning why.
To the rest of town, don't say what you think about TRN. I want hopeless to narrate it himself, fully.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 03 2013 13:19 GMT
#4446
Sharrant, why did you ninja vote and why was it not on Ace?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
May 03 2013 13:22 GMT
#4447
~~~ Vote Count ~~~

Yamato77: (2) kushm4sta, BloodyCobbler, getmoript
Hopeless1der: (6) Yamato77, Artanis[Xp], WaveofShadow, kushm4sta, Ace, Sharrant, BloodyCobbler, GiygaS, Stutters695, ObviousOne, Sharrant
Palmar: (0) Ace, TheRavensName, Hopeless1der
BloodyCobbler: (1) Artanis[Xp], Hopeless1der, yamato77
Ace: (4) Hopeless1der, Artanis[Xp], ObviousOne, TheRavensName

Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

Please keep in mind that with 15 alive it now only takes 8 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 03 2013 13:27 GMT
#4448
On May 03 2013 21:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
TRN, why almost? Ace is objectively the best lynch today because it'll free up our JK which will screw with scum's shots on townies because they can't be certain they can shoot the towniest looking player.

Because we are still not sure theres a second mafia vigi... but I think even if their isn't, we can give our jailer an excuse to try and save people as opposed to waste it blocking what the town thinks is a SP anyways.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 03 2013 13:28 GMT
#4449
So yeah

When I commented that we were running out of objectively scummy shit to talk about, that wasn't supposed to be like some kind of conscious or subconscious cue to start doing objectively scummy things.

/justsayin
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 03 2013 13:33 GMT
#4450
On May 03 2013 22:28 ObviousOne wrote:
So yeah

When I commented that we were running out of objectively scummy shit to talk about, that wasn't supposed to be like some kind of conscious or subconscious cue to start doing objectively scummy things.

/justsayin

I suppose next your going to tell us we need to just consolidate and get this day over with arn't you?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 03 2013 13:34 GMT
#4451
Nope!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 03 2013 13:36 GMT
#4452
On May 03 2013 21:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Palmar, those reads you were planning to give if we were going to lynch you? Maybe have them ready before night ends since you probably don't get protected based on your current, ahem, "enthusiasm" in this game? Thx.


well yeah.

I will probably be writing short thoughts here and there like I've been doing (see bill murray and hopeless)
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 03 2013 13:36 GMT
#4453
Guys. Seriously, there isn't a second scum vigi because I seriously doubt scum would have the balls to save their vigi for D5, and they've already had 3 strong power roles flip including a vigi. The setup would be pretty rediculously scum favoured if there was another scum vigi when town gets none.

Ace is confirmed 3rd party. Lynching him frees up our JK, which means he can protect townies rather than stop Ace from firing which means we get potentially more days and forces scum to guess who won't get protected so they can't shoot who they want to without risk.

Lynch Ace
I'm just going to afk now until Ace is lynched, unless someone actually brings up something I've missed which I highly doubt.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 03 2013 13:43 GMT
#4454
I do want the BM comments cleared up though. Would be good juju.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 03 2013 14:07 GMT
#4455
On May 03 2013 22:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Guys. Seriously, there isn't a second scum vigi because I seriously doubt scum would have the balls to save their vigi for D5, and they've already had 3 strong power roles flip including a vigi. The setup would be pretty rediculously scum favoured if there was another scum vigi when town gets none.

Ace is confirmed 3rd party. Lynching him frees up our JK, which means he can protect townies rather than stop Ace from firing which means we get potentially more days and forces scum to guess who won't get protected so they can't shoot who they want to without risk.

Lynch Ace
I'm just going to afk now until Ace is lynched, unless someone actually brings up something I've missed which I highly doubt.


How can you be so bad at reading? How many times have I explained it now. If scum have a second vigi they fired it on night 2. It would look exactly like Ace was the serial poisoner. HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS BEEN SAID? Honestly, it's so frustrating.

Lynching Ace right now gives the mafia an extra kill that we only have a chance to block, this isn't including things like a jail keeper may jail a doctor if we have one which means we potentially waste a lynch AND gain nothing for it.

I want to lynch Hopeless, and then if he flips red, you hang next. That should be all the mafia, then Ace can die.

If Hopeless isn't mafia, I'll look into everyone else again, but you're defending him by pushing the lynch off of him, giving mafia an extra night's worth of kills.

That's why I ninja voted Hopeless. If you're not mafia, Hopeless, I'm sorry. But Artanis is doing a good job of making you look like you are.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 03 2013 14:19 GMT
#4456
On May 03 2013 23:07 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 22:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Guys. Seriously, there isn't a second scum vigi because I seriously doubt scum would have the balls to save their vigi for D5, and they've already had 3 strong power roles flip including a vigi. The setup would be pretty rediculously scum favoured if there was another scum vigi when town gets none.

Ace is confirmed 3rd party. Lynching him frees up our JK, which means he can protect townies rather than stop Ace from firing which means we get potentially more days and forces scum to guess who won't get protected so they can't shoot who they want to without risk.

Lynch Ace
I'm just going to afk now until Ace is lynched, unless someone actually brings up something I've missed which I highly doubt.


How can you be so bad at reading? How many times have I explained it now. If scum have a second vigi they fired it on night 2. It would look exactly like Ace was the serial poisoner. HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS BEEN SAID? Honestly, it's so frustrating.

Lynching Ace right now gives the mafia an extra kill that we only have a chance to block, this isn't including things like a jail keeper may jail a doctor if we have one which means we potentially waste a lynch AND gain nothing for it.

I want to lynch Hopeless, and then if he flips red, you hang next. That should be all the mafia, then Ace can die.

If Hopeless isn't mafia, I'll look into everyone else again, but you're defending him by pushing the lynch off of him, giving mafia an extra night's worth of kills.

That's why I ninja voted Hopeless. If you're not mafia, Hopeless, I'm sorry. But Artanis is doing a good job of making you look like you are.

By that logic, you lynch freaken Artanis, not Hopeless.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 03 2013 14:20 GMT
#4457
Also, you really think we have a jailer, a medic, 2 masons , and 3 cops? Thats crazy. No, our one protection role is wasted chillling on ace which means Mafia knows that they can kill whoever they want.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 03 2013 14:23 GMT
#4458
On May 03 2013 23:20 TheRavensName wrote:
Also, you really think we have a jailer, a medic, 2 masons , and 3 cops? Thats crazy. No, our one protection role is wasted chillling on ace which means Mafia knows that they can kill whoever they want.


Quite frankly, no, I'm not convinced WE have 2 masons. I'm convinced there ARE 2 masons. Nor am I convinced we have 3 cops, but that's discussion for tomorrow.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 03 2013 14:25 GMT
#4459
I don't think Artanis is mafia, though what happened to the big push on BC?

As for whether to lynch Ace or no, each side makes halfway decent points.
I don't necessarily agree with 'freeing up our JK' since out of like 10-11 townies you have to choose the right one? We're going to lose someone tonight either way so I'm not sure what the strength of that point is. I also disagree with Sharant's 'second vigi' theory which I've already explained but I'm still not voting Ace.

This day is going absolutely nowhere and the longer it takes the more I'm likely to do something fucking stupid and change my vote to someting I don't truly want just for a flip. Ugh.


Also Palmar, regarding the last page or so. I'm not an idiot; you're being deliberately lazy and unhelpful by not assisting us with our current dilemmas. I'm not saying your read isn't useful for when you flip but there is a time and place, and rather than help us decide our lynch for the day, you post a read on BM that no one needs right now. Why not post a read like that at night if you're so afraid you're going to die? Don't you dare try to bully me or others into agreeing with you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#4460
On May 03 2013 23:23 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 23:20 TheRavensName wrote:
Also, you really think we have a jailer, a medic, 2 masons , and 3 cops? Thats crazy. No, our one protection role is wasted chillling on ace which means Mafia knows that they can kill whoever they want.


Quite frankly, no, I'm not convinced WE have 2 masons. I'm convinced there ARE 2 masons. Nor am I convinced we have 3 cops, but that's discussion for tomorrow.

Wait a minute. So according to this you think there's still a scum mason and vigi, and Palmar is lying therefore he must be one of those or 3p? AND you think Hopeless is mafia?
Where does Ace fit into this? Your final 3 must be hopeless/palmar/ace then? I don't think this is discussion for tomorrow because clearly today isn't decided yet.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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