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On May 01 2013 01:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 23:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2013 23:13 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:43 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, BC calling Palmar scum is a complete OMGUS if you look at the top of the page. Palmar just called BC scum. BC = active lurking here. I think BC brought up a good point though. He claimed roleblocked, which means jailed, and Palmar went out of his way to mention multiple times that it was a JK that saved his life and it had to have been his life saved. Yet there was two roleblocks only on that night so... that is something. And I think of Palmar was really trying to push for BC instead of look kinda useful crazy cop man, he would have seen that descrepincy and mentioned it when he was saying he saw that BC came up red for his check. But if Palmar was lying and isn't a cop, why did he claim a guilty check on OO? If he isn't a cop and wanted BC lynched, he shot himself in the foot there. He could claim paranoid, which he just did. It worked if he was believed, and sense no one bit thanks to our cop mass dibacle, he got another day to say he was paranoid. It's a plausible explanation, but there were still plenty of people that at least mildly suspected BC. I don't think Palmar would've started a gambit like this and halfass it that much only to abandon it the next day, though it is possible that he did so because two other people claimed cop which he didn't expect. Hmm. It's also strange that Palmar was on VE's case so much all through D1 and I believe D2 then didn't end up checking him, but rather the cobbler which he only mentioned twice before that day, once in the "list of bloodycobblers" and once in response to getting called out by him. Palmar, why did you end up checking BC instead of VE when you called him scum all day, and what caused you to change your read on VE? I checked BC both day 1 and day 2. I just tunneled VE because it felt nice.
LOL
Oh god
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BloodyC0bbler I choose you! You get the check tonight. Have at thee!
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The final two scum were on a team with 3 inactives. Is it more likely that the remaining scum are hyperactive to kind of disassociate through perceived mindset differences or whatever, or that they're also lurking through De motivation or whatever?
I would say the latter. I think the last scum are going to be semilurky angry dudes. Palmar and yamato both fit this description.
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BC isn't angry enough to be scum Imo.
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Does that seem likely to you? Wanna lynch them before Palmar, yamato or BC?
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Guys the veterans fight it out. BC/Ace/Palmar, no-holds-barred cagematch. Loser takes yamato in a flame-war post-match to the death.
What do you think?
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On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_-
BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you.
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TRN I'm less than a little concerned about how you prefer I play this game. *smooches*
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On May 01 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you. Why would I care about Ace in said argue match? He is clearly not mafia in my books. He could be 3p but forcing a lynch onto a scum from another scum when both were insanely inactive and useless doesn't scream like a scum move. That screams like ace liking his lynch choice more than anyone else. I think I have made it insanely clear that Palmar is scum or 3p at this point. His actions don't make sense in any way from a town standpoint.
I'm with you there - cop claim is fishy as hell, like, as if Paranoid Cop wasn't the most predictable scum fake-claim EVER amirite?
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On May 01 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 04:48 TheRavensName wrote:On May 01 2013 04:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I would like to see Yamato and Ace as well as Palmar and BC engaged in Mortal Kombat.
I would also like to hear more from Stutters, on anything really. You there! Substitute scate on through to the other side boy. What are your thoughts on these people and cases against them and why? I think Yamato is town and he suspects Ace whom I'm pretty null on after Shiao flipped scum JK, since his foremost claim to towniness is gone. I've already suspected the cobbler, but I don't think the cobbler and palmar can be in the same scumteam given their interactions. I don't think I need to explain to you that Palmar's claim has been fairly fishy, and his VE tunnel poorly reasoned. I find it likely that one of the two is scum after getting townier reads on other players.As for Stutters, there hasn't been much content to judge him on. I can follow his thought process but there's not enough of it to judge on, ergo I would like to hear more from him.
WHELL ISN'T THAT JUST CONVENIENT! ^^
Artanis you're a treasure. Don't ever change.
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On May 01 2013 05:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 01 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you. Why would I care about Ace in said argue match? He is clearly not mafia in my books. He could be 3p but forcing a lynch onto a scum from another scum when both were insanely inactive and useless doesn't scream like a scum move. That screams like ace liking his lynch choice more than anyone else. I think I have made it insanely clear that Palmar is scum or 3p at this point. His actions don't make sense in any way from a town standpoint. I'm with you there - cop claim is fishy as hell, like, as if Paranoid Cop wasn't the most predictable scum fake-claim EVER amirite? Let alone trying to get a top player lynched on a single check, not doing things he promised, etc... His play is not that of a town aligned player. Given the fake claim I would say more likely scum given that his claim could have caused a ton of confusion and thus fucked town over hard. The counter claiming by two dts where somewhat dumb on one hand is a good way to determine legitimacy of the others given how they played after the claims.
I think it's just fine - in fact, my play was actually REALLY FUCKING GOOD considering the circumstances. I wouldn't have DREAMED of claiming unless the checks liked up exactly as they did, pointing directly to what I perceived as a scum lynch.
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On May 01 2013 05:31 Palmar wrote:
guys I'm town.
We'll win without you don't worry.
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On May 01 2013 05:35 Palmar wrote:
also BC calling himself top player ^^
Maybe in 2010.
I watched him disassemble the scumteam in Personality 2. You weren't there, you don't know how bad it was. He's just fine.
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OH PALMAR WHO'S YORU SCUMBUDDY? IS IT ARTANIS?
Make it real small so that only I can see it! Everyone will promise not to look right guys?
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You are it's called the game thread. Play the game instead of passively comment on it Artanis. Or you WILL be hanged by the neck until dead.
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On May 01 2013 05:49 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH PALMAR WHO'S YORU SCUMBUDDY? IS IT ARTANIS?
Make it real small so that only I can see it! Everyone will promise not to look right guys? Ace
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If there is scum inside [Sharrant/Ace/VE] then this town is absolutely fucked anyway...I can't imagine a scenario where I'd want to lynch Ace until ALL of the scum are dead...same with Sharrant. If either of them is scum then this game is over from my perspective. Cause I'm not gonna lynch either one of them.
This leaves a pretty wide pool of players obviously, but for reasons I've stated earlier I'm looking this night primarily inside:
BloodyC0bbler, Palmar, Artanis, Yamato
After I filter these cats, reread lynchtimes and vote-counts and draw some conclusions, I'll get back with you guys. In the meantime, I'm just trolling around the thread and making observations. Actively lurking. Seeing what pops up. You know.
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