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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 15:30 GMT
#3281
Aw shit that won't work well for injustice vig. Well go ahead then.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 17:26 GMT
#3327
Lol wtf does geript smoke where he comes from???
The ideas are simply ridiculous.


Vivax check Mocsta

BM shoot Vivax
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 17:30 GMT
#3330
Geript also has an unexplainable hard-on for mocsta.

BM should shoot himself.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 17:31 GMT
#3333
On April 13 2013 02:30 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I have to take off for a few hours. Don't self destruct while I'm gone please.


Don't worry I'll only destroy others
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 17:32 GMT
#3335
Make something that forces a guy to communicate in ms paint pictures all day long.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 17:55 GMT
#3342
Scum always defend their scumbuddies yeah.

Just like OO.
Oh wait.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 18:16 GMT
#3349
MZ nukes austin, the most talkative of the suspects, ~36 hours before he had to (which I see as scummy)

I defended artanis and sheeped ve's case.

It's not always the simplest solution.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 12 2013 18:47 GMT
#3356
On April 13 2013 03:26 Restraining Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 03:26 Restraining Order wrote:
On April 13 2013 03:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Who joined the PM network? Oats you here?

I'm assuming with Kurumi around you know now?

We have a new friend, I can attest.

Oh, and it's Keirathi.


Should have invited Bill Murray.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 13 2013 11:14 GMT
#3463
Mocsta is town.
Not sure about the last scum now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 13 2013 11:14 GMT
#3464
Hint: Look for people who suspected him before night ended, and who seemingly lost interest after knowing he might be checked.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 13 2013 19:31 GMT
#3521
Sup idiots.
Didn't read my check result?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#3530
What about oats, no one has been seriously consideri g him since he was sitting in a mason qt
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 14 2013 18:27 GMT
#3551
##Vote Oatsmaster

Gnight
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 14 2013 18:33 GMT
#3552
On April 07 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Gonzaw.

I disagree that Artanis is scum.
Pure gut read so meh.
If you got the time, look at British 2.
Is he similar to there? Or different.


Why not Vivax?

Also Im up for a sn0man lynch for being UTTERLY USELESS.


On April 07 2013 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 16:08 gonzaw wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Gonzaw.

I disagree that Artanis is scum.
Pure gut read so meh.
If you got the time, look at British 2.
Is he similar to there? Or different.


Why not Vivax?

Also Im up for a sn0man lynch for being UTTERLY USELESS.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400346&user=19729

lol Artanis is playing NOTHING LIKE his town play in British 2

Do you have anything specific about it that makes me wrong? It seems it only makes me more sure he's scum >_>

nopey


On April 07 2013 16:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gonzaw you understand what I mean by GUT READ? (it means I felt that he was town reading the thread.)

I agree that artanis looks scummy.

I still want to lynch Vivax though, Im way more familar with his play and this does not feel like his town play.

Also he is scummy!?!?!

(so wishywashy right? )

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#3554
I dun care, checking your french girl tonight if town grows some neurons.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 14 2013 18:52 GMT
#3555
We also know there are two scum left herp
Caller was town derp
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 14 2013 18:54 GMT
#3557
derp indeed, we lynched the fourth. Time for bed
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 15 2013 03:50 GMT
#3666
You're really bad yamato.
Trading a DT for another DT, if you pulled through your plan you'd be in the shoes of the guys you call idiots at this point.

Keep up the good work though. The DTs won't lynch themselves. Is it Keirathi or me next?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 15 2013 03:57 GMT
#3668
Think of it from this point of view: The last scum doesn't concede cause he thinks he's not getting lynched anytime soon and wants to have some fun watching town burn a little.

I'm currently reviewing yamato:

On April 07 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote:
Palmar's comment on VE, even if VE is scum, is also no reason to think him town. It's a passing comment made that follows thread sentiment. In no way is Palmar taking that read of VE seriously.


This looks like something premature to say when you don't have knowledge of VE's alignment. It looks like yamato tried to take credit away from Palmar even before VE got lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 15 2013 04:02 GMT
#3670
Other incriminating stuff:

Yamato initially wanted to lynch these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 07 2013 15:13 yamato77 wrote:
Going to bed.

When I wake up tomorrow, I'm taking a look at this list of people:

VE
PALMAR
SINANI
MEAPAK
AUSTIN

One of them will get lynched.





OO deciding to bus artanis at this time:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 08 2013 08:23 ObviousOne wrote:
British Empire Mini Mafia II [Town]:
Comfortable with 180 when confronted with new information
Openly questions his detractors
Sarcasm/teeth to his posts
Early game attention grabber with BS vote on Marv (wasn't even in the game) - not afraid of the spotlight
Direct/engaged mid-lategame
One of his post-game posts I believe he mentioned before in this game, that he was trying to change up his playstyle a bit:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun.


Fruity Mafia [Town]:
First major thing that stands out to me is how he formulated this post. He talked about 4 other players then said ObviousOne looked bad (I really did, bee tee dubs):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17802815
He guilted me out of my scum read on Toad (Zessionar in that game):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17811235
Full of questions / interactions / poking
Was a town power role and got very bold D2 but town confidence overall was high.
Otherwise rather similar to British

TL Mafia LI [Mafia]:
Talks about things mafia would/wouldn't do (his example was scum don't make big slips)
Points out a big scum slip (lol see above)
Posts in a reassuring tone (regarding his own reads)
Attacked inactivity and claims
Post-game confessions:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 14:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm surprised so many people thought I was scum, given that I would've done the same lurking as town given the size of the game. I would've posted more if I could but I simply got lost in all the traffic; def won't be playing another 30 player game. The only post that really tipped me off was the one ghost accurately called out, I don't think I would've made that as town but mafia IRC said it was a good idea. Given my early bus on VE after his claim I'd think after VE flipped I'd get a bit more credit too.


Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]:
- Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games
- Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool
- Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself
- Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction

THIS GAME:
Dismissive in D0, not chasing shadows or anything really
Some concept of a plan presented, not really pushed
Not very inquisitive
Giant poop in the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18226316
No real back-and-forth happening
Barely here

The OBVIOUS conclusion:

Scum

Spend way more time defending / deflecting than scum hunting, less interactive than his town games. By extension of this, he's missing that edge of sarcasm and incredulity in his voice that is present when he calls people out on their bullshit as town. He doesn't seem interested in getting people to re-factor their reads. Way too defensive to match his town meta in any way.

Added note: his filter is barely 2 pages and we've already been active for four real-time days if I am not fucking up my maths. Both scum game filters were short (less than 3 pages each) and showed him hiding by posting just enough to not be considered a lurker.


Suddenly Artanis is among yamato's scumreads:
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 08 2013 09:42 yamato77 wrote:
Let's lynch Artanis. The fact that the lynch has met resistance and people are arguing about other cases that are "scummier" is a good thing. I love information. OO's analysis of his meta is decent, and coupled with gonzaw's case, I could see Artanus as scum.

As for who to vig, it should obviously be sinani. If you read his filter, he posts opportunistically, and generally has little to say. One post in particular I called out as being especially horrible, the one where he gives his "thoughts" on the lynch candidates and is null on three out of four. I was scum with him in Red Team's Prize, and he's acting similar to that game, here his posting in the thread is quiet and not forceful. His "push" of BM as a vig shot is also terrible, because I actually have him down as likely town.

As for myself, since people seem to think I need to contribute more, meh. I gave the game the start I wanted and I have some decent town reads out of that, so as far as continuing a high level of activity, I don't feel that it's necessary. I'm doing my own scum hunting, and I make myself known throughout the day on where I'm at. If I drop off the face of the planet, feel free to shoot/lynch me, but I'm not going to be hyperactive in these games anymore.



Shortly after OO bussed, yamato adds Artanis to those he would lynch, without fighting for his own choices.
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