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On March 31 2013 10:37 cDgCorazon wrote: Also, I believe that Acro was killed by someone other than himself because the role did not say he would die if he used his power, only if he used it twice. Really?. I shot Acro. FU if you gonna think something else. srsly. | ||
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who shot who? and why? | ||
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On March 31 2013 10:52 Hapahauli wrote: Also, describe your vigi mechanic to me plz. Rly, RLY? Why? | ||
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So yeah, I shot Acro. I didn't want to shoot him begfore the deadline because i thought we'd still lynch Smurf and if by some weird way he was in fact town he would probably changed the lynch from himself onto scum. I also shot Grack. I admit that was dumb and i didn't claim it because i am a multi-shot conditional vig. I thought either people are right about Grack and he is scum or the whole thread is distracted to him. Obviously should not have shot him. :/ My condition is that i can only kill masons. This means me/Hapa/Acro/Grack and Keir/Cora. During night I can either check if someone is in a mason circle or shoot someone. If they are mason they die, if not, nothing happens. From the mason circle i am in (this means Grack, Hapa, Acro), i can shoot anyone at any point. I checked Cora N1, and he is legit mason. This means Cora & Keirathi are town because as town they have no reason to lie about being townfirmed to each other. IF THERE ARE TOWN MASONS THAT HAVE NOT CLAIMED, DO SO NOW! What i am going to do now is to start shooting into non-confirmed players (obviously not gonna shoot Hapa). If there is still someone eavesdropping in the mason circles, they can die to my shot. I there arn't, there is no harm as nothing is going to happen. Oh yeah and Smurf + Oats + prplhz are probably mafia. Look at Oats / prplhz posts this phase. rofl they are bad. | ||
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On April 01 2013 01:59 Hapahauli wrote: There could be more. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a scum who had access to our QT and wasn't posting. Might want to check someone in the group of Oats/Sinani/Prplhz to see if they have mason access. That's why i want every town mason to claim. There is no harm shooting into non-masons as they can't die to my shots. If they are scum and have acces to mason QT they do die. No risk - possible profit! | ||
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On April 01 2013 02:03 Hapahauli wrote: @ Rayn When are you allowed to make shots? On anyone not in our masun QT: Normal night action -> end of the night. On people in our mason QT: whenever | ||
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On April 01 2013 02:12 Hapahauli wrote: What happens when you shoot someone not in a mason QT? Can you make a shot on someone w/out knowing if they're in one or not? If i shoot someone who is not mason nothing happens. | ||
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On April 01 2013 03:11 Keirathi wrote: I believe he can only do one at a time? Either check, or shoot. Not both? Correct. If all masons claim shooting is the same thing as checking someone, except that if i find a liar they insta-die. | ||
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On April 01 2013 03:11 Keirathi wrote: Somehow I missed this post. But thinking back, this is really the biggest reason that my Acro->sinani analysis falls apart. First off, when Acro made the case on sinani, it was pretty obvious that Smurf was still going to be lynched first. And Acro had no idea that the day would be a double lynch, because that was Palmar's night action (presumably). Now, lets think about the vote rigger role itself. Presumably Acro asked Kurumi if using his power would affect both of the lynches. Which means 100% that yesterday was the day to use it (why lynch one townie for free, when you can lynch two?). So, if Acro can affect both lynches, then pushing 2 of his teammates really isn't very risky. The vote rigging is anonymous, and even if the vote rigging "frames" his two teammates and they get lynched successively at a later point, Acro still looks good coming out of it because he was pushing them. *  isclaimer: The other side of that is Acro could "frame" 2 townies with the vote rigging too. Or 1 townie and 1 scum. This is all in a hypothetical where Acro himself didn't get lynched, ofc, but whoever the two town-chosen lynches were, they both come out of the rigged lynches looking much worse.TL;DR - my analysis about sinani not being scum with Acro is irrelevant. I still don't think there is a ton that points to him actually being scum (the biggest being how hard Acro chainsaw defended him day 1), but I think it is a decent possibility again. I see one problem here. Acro claimed his power when the game started in our mason QT. I think he accidently put it there and was thinking he is posting in scum QT (rofl if i am right here, that would be hilarious ^_^). The claim was in our QT for 3 minutes. Me + Grack saw it. Now if Acro ever uses his power and townies get lynched, it incriminates him a lot. Acro didn't mention the vote rigging in any way before he was himself under pressure -> when we started voting him. I do not think Smurf/sinani are both scum and he was gonna use his power in the first place -> scum would have pretty much outed three of them in one phase. Makes sense? | ||
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On April 01 2013 03:17 Hapahauli wrote: oh so just shoot people and go wild on the non-confirmed dudes. They haven't claimed yet, so w/e. Yeah if people do not post before the deadline i'm going to take the safer route and just check someone. | ||
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That actually is my plan. :D | ||
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I'm feeling a bit better about Rayn now that he's decided to talk more about his role. His shots make me want to yell at him though, but I'm not sure if I want to lynch him for it yet. You srsly think there is a possibility that i am scum and shot my teammate? | ||
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Yes marv, i probably should have seen the obvious. I thought he could do something like change someone's vote. And me not shooting him before the deadline was definitely a mistake. I had to think it out very quickly as i was out with my friends and had a limited access to computer and i was drunk anyways. Bad call. | ||
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On April 01 2013 03:57 Keirathi wrote: To be fair, I think there is a *possibility* that you did. However, I don't find it *likely* that you did. But Acro was dead either way. If you are scum, you might as well shoot him and get town cred to ride to the easy win. The question really comes down to "Does scum rayn have the balls to pull it off?" I can tell you that scum!rayn would have the balls to do stuff like that. Don't you think it would be a bit OP for mafia to have an incredibly powerful vote-rigger (given that Palmar had the double lynch power) and a multi-shot anonymous vigi? | ||
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