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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:14 GMT
#2349
santa is just a blue sniper without the presents twist

gotcha
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:15 GMT
#2350
should be obvious by now that i'm not at all lucid enough to xanatos speed chess this one which means i'm probably telling the truth
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:18 GMT
#2353
pirate

yo ho ho a pirate ye be. at night you can target someone but you're so drunk it will fail. you may choose to walk the plank, be keelhauled or marooned.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:19 GMT
#2354
yea i don't know if i killed palmar so i was looking for people who might know something. which is why i went crazy when cora said that palmar was killed by a vig (which he apparently didn't say anyway).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:20 GMT
#2355
i also considered claiming after d2 because i was pretty sure i could kill acro that night but then acro just died.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:28 GMT
#2358
sinani first
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:34 GMT
#2360
because we have a check on him
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#2364
marv rb
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:51 GMT
#2368
On April 01 2013 07:37 strongandbig wrote:
Okay two things
First, prplhz if your role works as claimed then how were you "unsure" whether you killed palmar? After the flip you should have known that your power would've delivered a bullet to the head not a gun. At that point, I'm pretty sure the logical thing to say is not "maybe I killed him".
Second, I don't buy the explanation for choosing palmar. You're saying you chose someone who you had no read on, just to see what would happen? And that to do this you chose palmar? That makes much less sense to me than the alternative, scum explanation.
Third, if we hypothesize that marv's and my roles were phrased the way they are because of the interaction with prplhz's role, what seems more likely - that it was done to make a town prplhz more powerful or to make a scum prplhz less powerful?
Okay that was three things I guess.

i don't know what would have happened if i had not targetted palmar. still don't.

palmar seemed to be town but then he seemed to get more uninterested in the game. i thought a gun would give him more interest in the game and give me a better idea about him. if he's town and he has a gun, good. if he's scum then i give him another gun the next night and he shoots his own brains out, good. i never thought that he'd just die right there.

in hindsight i probably shouldn't have done that but i never considered that everybody was blue. i knew i was blue, grack was blue, kei and cora both blue, how many blues could there be?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 22:55 GMT
#2369
On April 01 2013 07:50 strongandbig wrote:
Okay wait idea brain

If we assume that five scum in this setup is unlikely, then that means oats and prp are likely to not be scum together. So we can test both their role claims at the same time by having prp target oats. If prp is lying and oats is telling the truth, oats won't get the gun.get the gun. If oats is lying and prp is telling the truth, then oats will die. If both are telling the truth, then we have oats with a gun and we can tell him who to shoot with it.

what did oats claim
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:01 GMT
#2372
that's a dumb plan. i give the gun to sinani and if he's not dead tomorrow we lynch him.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:22 GMT
#2377
On April 01 2013 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:13 marvellosity wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i had no read on palmar n1. he was townie early but he didn't care much about lynch (saying "i can lynch anybody" and then in the end he just kind of meh'd while we lynched into 6%) and he wasn't active at night so i thought i'd give him and gun and see what happened. if he looked scum on d2 then i could just give him another gun (would kill him). i didn't at all predict that he was blue.


Excuse me but following your logic from N1 (gunning Palmar) why did you give the gun to Smurf? Why not sinani and if he does not die you kill him the next night? Smurf was anyways gonna get lynched today and you 100% knew it.


That's why he did it to Smurf, silly.

No it's not. This way we have no way of knowing if prplhz's claim is legit. Had he gunned sinani he could have proved his claim on N3 by regunning sinani -> kill him. Smurf hangs anyways today.

yes it is.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:48 GMT
#2387
i don't know if it was suboptimal or whatever but giving a gun to palmar was obviously not a good idea in hindsight. guess you'll have to convince yourself that i thought it was a decent idea n1 but when palmar flipped d2 i freaked and decided to play safe. i already told you why i thought it was a decent idea, had a townish read on palmar and i didn't think he was blue. the kill-him-n2-if-he-messes-up wasn't why i did it at all, it was just a little extra.

anyway it sucked when i saw palmar flip blue because maybe i did that and killing one of the best townies on n1 isn't really what i was hoping to do this game so when the opportunity to play it safe came up, i did just that.

giving the gun to someone who is 100% getting lynched tomorrow is the best idea unless:
1) i'm really sure he's vanilla scum AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum
2) i'm really sure he's vanilla townie AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum

so playing it safe is giving it to smurf.

also, in response to marv "suboptimal" and rayn "really bad", what would you have done n1?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#2388
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2390
yea maybe but i was feeling frisky and i had a funny role and how many blues can there really be in a kurumi themed game?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#2391
thinking about it, if i can give the gun to you and snb that could lead to very unfortunate scenarios where i would disbelief your role and 1v1 you.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:00 GMT
#2396
burn
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:02 GMT
#2397
i wouldn't know the rest of the scum team and playing it safe was a better idea than taking huge risks for flimsy evidence.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2399
it never even occurred to me that i could do that
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2400
lets not hold hands this is a lot more fun
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