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marvellosity
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On April 02 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think that's a good idea. We do not know how much KP scum have for sure. If prplhz is scum this could lead into very bad things. And if you're scum you can shoot Hapa in the face at any time. | ||
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marvellosity
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On April 02 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's also why Oats can't say he got the confirmation. Because it confirms my role and i have played the worst scum game ever if i have used my role like this as scum. This still makes no sense, Oats can't afford to go 1 for 1 with anyone. This all feels wrong | ||
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On March 28 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Interesting. Do you somehow know mafia shot Grack? Because that's how the bolded part reads to me. I'm particularly having problems with this quote, although there's a bunch of other stuff that's making me queasy. The state of things before this is, presuming rayn is town: 1) rayn has a townread on Cora 2) rayn shot Grack Therefore how does this quote even make sense? It can't possibly be trapping because rayn knows 100% that Grack was town-killed. So Cora can't possibly know it was a mafia-shot, because it wasn't. There's literally no way. This quote makes sense in other scenarios: 1) rayn doesn't know who shot Grack, and is suspicious of Cora for thinking what he apparently thought. Obviously we can count this one out 2) rayn is mafia, and he's either worried or shovelling suspicion. This makes much more sense than the original premise of a town-rayn who shot Grack asking a townread how he knows that Grack was scum-shot. | ||
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marvellosity
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He's town! He's a bad lynch! He isn't scum! Palmar is going after the wrong people! Oh... he's actually scum, because I'm "not satisfied with his answers anymore" (???), despite the fact I have at least 3 other scumreads (OO, Oats, Smurf, Nisani), but I need to be able to justify shooting him later. | ||
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On April 02 2013 10:30 prplhz wrote: poor rayn for once in your life, try commenting on what's being talked about? | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:02 prplhz wrote: how did you survive getting shot Please read the thread, sweetie. | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:04 prplhz wrote: i forgot, kindly refresh my memory What Oats said. rayn's role is apparently he can kill masons, so if he shoots a non-mason then he isn't shot, so to speak. | ||
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marvellosity
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On April 02 2013 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm kinda wondering why didn't Oats say he got confirmation that i shot him? Although his posts this phase imply that he got it and my claim is true (he's not caaling me scum anymore after last phase change). On April 02 2013 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think that should be checked as it's pretty clearly stated to me. On April 02 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats should have a notification that i shot him last night. There is no reason for him to lie about it if he is town. | ||
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marvellosity
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So what happened to the shot last night if that's the case? | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:36 prplhz wrote: it just makes no sense that you get a notification that you were shot and you're not wondering how you survive, because you simply just accept that someone has a role that informs people that they were shot when they weren't shot but only attempted shot. i also don't know why you want me to STOP THESE ALLEGATIONS since your scum team right now has to be smurf/sinani/me. why are you worried about what scum thinks about you? anyway if you and rayn are telling the truth then i need another scum. Telling the truth != town | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:39 prplhz wrote: i mean if i was shot then i'd seriously wonder about why i survived and not just accept someone's explanation that he can target people and then they're informed that they're shot but they're not actually shot. because that makes absolutely no sense. It was talked about in-thread that that's exactly what would happen. rayn said basically "if i shoot a mason, they die, if they're not a mason, they don't die. i'm going to try shooting Oats because he claimed VT." I don't understand why you think Oats would suddenly be surprised that he got shot and survived when it was pre-advertised that he would survive if he was telling the truth about not being a mason. | ||
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If I were to hazard a guess, the wording wouldn't say that Oats was shot, more something like "someone came and rooted around your affairs last night, but they didn't find what they were looking for and so they left again" | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:45 Hapahauli wrote: Assuming Oats is telling the truth, why does Rayn have to be town? I've seen a similar mafia-mason-vigi role in Chrono Trigger mafia. No-one has to be town or mafia from this. Like I said earlier, the only thing we learn is that either rayn is telling the truth about his role (when I previously had doubts) or rayn and Oats are mafia together (unlikely given the no-shot last night). Assuming everyone is telling the truth, absolutely any set of alignments for those 2 players is still possible. | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:58 Hapahauli wrote: There was a similar mafia role in Chrono Trigger mafia. Also, given how absurdly OP Acro's role was, I wouldn't put it past Kurumi to make it a mafia role. As much as I dislike some things I've seen from rayn, it is the case that he could have shot Grack Day 1 and you Day 2, or shot you Day 1 and Grack Day 2, and kept quiet about it as well. He's effectively a multi-shot anonymous day-vig :/ Congrats on 5k, I reached 10k during this game... ^_^ | ||
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marvellosity
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On April 01 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: My condition is that i can only kill masons. This means me/Hapa/Acro/Grack and Keir/Cora. During night I can either check if someone is in a mason circle or shoot someone. If they are mason they die, if not, nothing happens. From the mason circle i am in (this means Grack, Hapa, Acro), i can shoot anyone at any point. | ||
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