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RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#2597
it's also particularly telling that the only thing you did once entering the thread was complain about the push on you.

You seem threatened, despite the fact that Wiggles is almost certainly dead today.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 05:01 GMT
#2599
On March 24 2013 13:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 13:50 RyuSuzaku wrote:
On March 24 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2013 13:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:
On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times.

On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town.


When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong.


who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution.

In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all.

On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.

@ryu:

Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang?


If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill?


The same could be said for your posts with me. Anyway I think it's your problem because many others have had town reads on me.


not really. I can't think of any lynch you've supported, or any of your reads, since you've been a nonfactor this game. Normally that's not a good sign.

I have not necessarily had the time to post as much as I've wanted to, but I've been very clear on my reads, perhaps barring today (since Trance got modkilled/whatever happened to him and my #1 target is pretty much not going to get lynched)


Then read the thread. I have been far from a non factor despite your assertions. YOU have in fact been a non factor which is ironic.


Apparently you don't even remember day 1.

I might have been wrong, but at the very least I got my choice lynched (as opposed to getting GK lynched, the major candidate at the time, who would have flipped medic.)

Nice attempt to turn it around on me, though. Wanna try again?
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 05:03 GMT
#2602
Also just judging by the vote thread you've done nothing but sheep the main wagons everyday.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 05:04 GMT
#2603
On March 24 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nah Ryu's been a factor.
In the mislynching of GreyMist.


WoS what do you think of DP?
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 05:41 GMT
#2607
On March 24 2013 14:37 cosmicomics wrote:
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On March 24 2013 07:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:
also one thing I forgot to mention is that I would expect a town-VE right now to be crying about the lack of activity.

Instead, he seems to be completely content with letting the thread die, which is very uncharacteristic of his town play.

So you calling him scum or what? How is he culpable of "letting the thread die"?


Yes, I am calling him scum. Read my posts.

I don't think he is solely culpable for the thread dying, that's on everyone. However, I think as town VE would be in here right now talking.

Yet, he's not.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 05:42 GMT
#2608
VE normally goes so far as to throw a fit any time a game goes inactive as town. This game he's just afking.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 07:50 GMT
#2612
zzz
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 24 2013 21:10 GMT
#2625
On March 25 2013 05:19 cosmicomics wrote:
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On March 24 2013 14:41 RyuSuzaku wrote:
On March 24 2013 14:37 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 24 2013 07:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:
also one thing I forgot to mention is that I would expect a town-VE right now to be crying about the lack of activity.

Instead, he seems to be completely content with letting the thread die, which is very uncharacteristic of his town play.

So you calling him scum or what? How is he culpable of "letting the thread die"?

Yes, I am calling him scum. Read my posts.

While I agree with you on behavioral analysis, that means that scum chose only to use 1KP so VisceraEyes could fake claim vet status or that they have some really really weird KP formula. How do you think last night's KP went down?


I don't think we have any way of knowing that, really.

It's certainly possible that the KP from night 1 to night 2 changed if mafia have a recruiter, because a recruiter is essentially KP. It's worse, actually, since it buffers mafia count while reducing town count.

So maybe they had 2 KP on n1 and shot VE, then decided it would be a great way to get cred to recruit him. Maybe they had 1 KP and a recruit on n1 and they decided to recruit VE, who claimed a shot so later when mafia have 2 KP, he'd basically be "confirmed".

This is obviously all conspiracy-esque, but it's based on my feeling that, if there truly is a recruiter, it can't be a third party recruiter. A third party recruiter really does not make sense. I don't think VE is lying about being contacted by one, and his drastic change in behavior would seem to indicate that he really was recruited. Think about it: he wanted WF dead on day 1, but on day 2 was more than happy to switch to Wiggles or Ace.

Yesterday, he was completely gone during the most crucial parts of the day, something I would never in a million years expect from town VE, given that the game only progressed by 3 or 4 pages. Why was I the only one talking to Wiggles? What did we gain from that lynch? It's obvious in hindsight it was just an easy bandwagon for mafia to push, so of course one would expect the mafia team to simply sit back and watch the town kill itself.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 25 2013 09:09 GMT
#2657
uh wow. Okay. I was clearly completely wrong about VE too, I should probably keep things simple.

I'm gonna go to bed, reread in the morning and try to rethink things.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 25 2013 09:19 GMT
#2658
well, that's interesting...
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 26 2013 20:30 GMT
#2727
yo all.

We kill cosmic today, and I will accept no other lynches. Having looked over the dead players last night, everyone calls him scum, yet no one actually votes him. There are plenty of reasons already stated by other players (kita and wiggles among them) and so I'm not going to bother rehashing those.

##vote cosmicomics
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 03:51 GMT
#2758
On March 27 2013 12:49 cosmicomics wrote:
It's really straightforward. You either think I am scum and layabout my scum partner and you lynch us, or you think we are 3rd party and you don't lynch us. Doesn't make sense to call us 3rd party and then continue to lynch us because coupled with scum KP will probably be endgame.


Actually, from my perspective it makes no sense to lynch anyone but you.

If you are not with town, we need to kill you to win the game. That's what I know.

My vote's not moving.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 03:58 GMT
#2762
On March 27 2013 12:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 12:53 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 27 2013 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:
At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch as kita has only made very constructed and crafted posts. Has not posted a lot but enough to come off as townie. Has flown under the radar and pushed cases on a townie/3rd party every time.

Also Kita has posted good and reasonable cases. And a lot of them. So it doesn;t make any snese for kita to be alive and coag and VE to die last night.

So yeah. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch.

The knave panics!


LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town.


Are you actually town, or are you with this mirror guy? Or maybe I was right and you are scum?

This game is turning out to be really stupid. But even if you are just dumb town it should still be really obvious to you that we can't win without killing cosmic.

Reminds me of that game BH claimed SK as town because he thought he could manipulate town into letting him live on the condition that he "lent" them his gun. IIRC the targets he offered to kill were all townies.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 03:59 GMT
#2764
On March 27 2013 12:56 layabout wrote:
It would be nice if people were around rather than posting once and leaving:
cough ken cough

At least Ryu is here to tell us that he doesn't want to lynch mafia.


third party and mafia are both scum. Nice try, scum.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:32 GMT
#2785
So, DP is really scum after all?

loooool
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:33 GMT
#2788
On March 27 2013 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 13:32 RyuSuzaku wrote:
So, DP is really scum after all?

loooool


You are scum and you are next.


nope.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:44 GMT
#2799
On March 27 2013 13:41 ThePeashooter wrote:
Sorry for my apathy. There were a certain few parts in this game that completely destroyed my will to play. Based off the most recent set of posting it looks like LayAbout is scum to me. I really don't think the WoS claim or my rolecheck can be questioned if you actually care to look at the evidence and he seems to just be trying to cause chaos.

My apathy caused by certain players this game combined with me actually being really busy the last couple of days lead to me playing an extremely lackluster game. I really did intend on delivering more and better analysis but I just didn't have the time to do it the last few days.


If you are town then fucking do something with us and kill cosmic.

I've basically been in the same position as you. On day 1 I was sure greymist was scum, and I had a town read on WF. Since then I've realized how completely wrong many of my reads are.

Cosmic+layabout+DP need to die. Let's start with cosmic today.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:47 GMT
#2802
On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like.


Their fake claims don't even line up.

cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die.

layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies.


generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together.


this is scum logic.

Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum.

Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot.

The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:48 GMT
#2803
WE CAN'T SPLIT VOTES RIGHT NOW.

I'm talking to you, TPS. If you're town and you think layabout is scum then you need to consolidate on cosmic. They are both scum, but we don't have the votes to switch to layabout right now.
Dragon Bird
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
March 27 2013 04:51 GMT
#2807
On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:
On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like.


Their fake claims don't even line up.

cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die.

layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies.


generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together.


this is scum logic.

Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum.

Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot.

The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum.


No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that.


false.

At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker.

In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN.

You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are.
Dragon Bird
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