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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 03:05 Mocsta wrote: Wrong but wahtevers, not relevant 3p dont win with scum.. hence are not aligned with scum 3P and scum are both anti-town.. nothing more, nothing less moving on now SCUM = not town 3p is not town 3p is scum | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 03:07 Wade Fell wrote: testsubj is literally one of 3 people I want to lynch right now besides VE man. jesus Like I gave a list of 3 people I want to lynch, note that one of them is my top choice, and you point out another one and are like "OMG WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO LYNCH HIM" when he's literally one of the three people I want to lynch. What the fuck is wrong with you | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol BH. Why Vivax over Wiggle? Actually I take that back definitely not Vivax. I forgot that he pulled that really dumb stunt with the mason logs earlier-- there's no way he'd actually try to do that unless he was town and legitimately thought I was scum. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote: I am not the one screaming lynch VE the evjk thief partyy this still doesn't answer his query. | ||
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On March 21 2013 05:11 DoYouHas wrote: @VE - Why did you post about BH masoning you when you did? And why did it take you so long to realize that logs were allowed to be posted after BH posted them, which, even if it contradicted what you had heard from the hosts, means that the information was no longer exclusive to the QT and was now fair game? don't forget his semi-allegations that I falsified logs, which he never followed up on | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I just didn't think about the logs man. They weren't even factoring in because I specifically asked if they were allowed. I assumed that if that were changed I would have specifically heard something to that regard. It was apparently in the thread and I missed it though. I posted about BH masoning me because I thought he was scum based on my conversation with him during the cycle and based on my observation of his play D1/N1. If he's scum, I wanted the fact that he's masoning people and specifically requesting that this fact be kept secret IN the thread. Becuase that's active manipulation of town. Active. Look I have a good reason to not want to claim mason to thread. Was I masoning people without telling the thread? Yeah, sure. But all that does is paint a target on my back if I claim mason! Come on, man. And how did you NOT SEE IT in the thread? Like come on, man, there was a LOT of talking about it. This just doesn't add up at all. I don't understand your thought process. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes I did it for readability purposes. The timestamps are of no consequence, but if you want an unabridged copy I can certainly provide one. wat this is like the worst explanation | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 05:15 goodkarma wrote: I have this simple question for you VE: If you're town, and felt inspired to copy paste in mason chat logs, why are there no timestamps? Wouldn't you have to take a deliberate effort to omit them? And if we assume it's true that VE became some kind of 3P: we don't know its purpose. When last I checked our objective was to remove all mafia. There are 3P setups where the 3P is benign or has some kind of objective that isn't really anti-town. Like assassins in LVII or some kind of survivor role. For all we know 3P here could also be benign to town. All we could do is speculate... Like what if The Mirror is really The Devil. To win, he needs to "empower" three different individuals. These individuals actually lose their roles, but are never notified. Or some other such thing... It's all speculation. We simply don't know, and quite honestly we shouldn't care right now... We 100% know that mafia have the means to kill us off, and they should be our priority. If we lynch VE today, it should be on the merits of him being possibly mafia rather than 3P. Okay, admittedly mafia is possibly a bigger threat than 3P, and there are benign 3P roles like survivor that don't mechanically inhibit a town win. At this point, though, I don't trust anything VE has to say. He outed me to the thread at a weird time, as has been mentioned. He removed the timestamps from his logs "for readability" and posted them, soft-claiming 3p (which he walked back as people voted him) and he's been making weird noises about me being scum but not seriously pushing me for like over 48 hours. Whatever VE is, he's not playing for the town. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 05:21 VisceraEyes wrote: I have not softclaimed 3p. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Why would anyone of any alignment do that? It IS super retarded, but calling it retarded doesn't change what's in the (possibly doctored) logs. I don't know why you did it, you tell me. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 05:23 DoYouHas wrote: I find it hard to believe that you has such a lapse in regards to the logs. Whenever I (or anyone really) has a top scum read that they are actively pursuing, which you were after revealing the BH had masoned you, I pay pretty close attention to that person's posts until they either alleviate my suspicions, or are dead. So I don't buy that you didn't notice the logs. And once you notice them, that would immediately create conflict which would quickly lead you to the host announcement that logs are allowed. This is a townie train of thought for someone pursuing their top scum read, it is not the train of thought you displayed. As for your second part, how would any of what you were trying to reveal to the town changed if you had waited until day2 to post about it? DYH has a very solid point here. when someone has a scumread, they push him. And when that scumread starts dumping mason logs, including one you haven't read like GK, and there's a huge kerfuffle in the thread about like who made the QTs, what's in there, etc, you can't just be like "yeah my top scumread has supported his claim but I'm not really paying attention to him" because that makes no sense from the perspective of a town player pushing a scumread | ||
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Wade Fell
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you're literally not reading the thread | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 08:07 TestSubject893 wrote: I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming. That's not gonna stop me from defending myself against your poorly-veiled omgus. Here are posts in which I say or explain your scumminess: (link)(link)(awesome link)(link)(link)(link) then you stopped posting so I couldn't shoot you down more. | ||
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Wade Fell
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This isn't even a scumtell, this is a "testsubject is whiny and unhelpful" tell | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 08:20 TestSubject893 wrote: The last two of those you don't mention me other than just saying I'm scum. Only the "awesome link" contains any real reasoning and the others are just hyperbole. You're effectively just agreeing with me. I'm saying all you had very little argument against me and you come back with, "No, no, look, once I said 'not active enough' and these other times, I called you scum". You're telling me the self-proclaimed best scum hunter on TL bases his top scum read day one solely on "hasn't made any cases"? Please. 1) you're scum 2) i'm not the best scum hunter on tl, but I have like top 3 control 3) just because you, a scum player, find my arguments unconvincing doesn't mean they don't exist. 4) you'rescum | ||
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Wade Fell
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1) I didn't want to mason with him until I was pretty sure he was town (at this time I wasn't outed to the thread yet) 2) the hosts were drunk/afk and eventually it was like "ok come on" and they were like "mak ur own QT bro also you have large penis" and I was like "ah, thank you DrH it's kinda creepy you know I have a large penis, but that is a true fact. I will now make the QT" also it's like super dooper obvious that everything about VE's claiming and logs is fishy. we just lynch him and all fishiness goes away. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 08:24 TestSubject893 wrote: Oh, Oh, I can spam too, let me try. BH, stop being so helpful. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. BH, please stop. BH BH BH BH BeeAych Stahp No, wait the opposite. I get it, it's sarcasm because I'm super helpful and awesome and you've made like 3 posts all game | ||
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Wade Fell
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On March 21 2013 08:25 TestSubject893 wrote: Seriously though, your arguments were non-existent. Anyone who takes the time to look at those links will see that. almost as non-existent as your thread presence and "usefulness" during all of D1. You opted out of the town discourse! You didn't even push cases or votes (and you're only questionably doing that now), you talked about the "town atmosphere" and basically lollygagged. Anyone who reads your filter will say "wow bh is so sexy, so amazing, why haven't we lynched testsubj yet" | ||
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