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DoctorHelvetica
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I was wondering for a minute of a massclaim plan would actually be of any use but there's no reason for scum not just to claim vanilla town and hide in that group of 7. That would leave 2 players out of the question and that's not a small enough pool to investigate, not really useful I think. So nothing to say about that. Don't be this trigger happy, it'd be pretty fucking stupid to lynch me right away for not having much to say. I'm best at reading players and I generally avoid lurkers because I'm a filter-diver if anything. 2 minutes into the game with nothing to discuss, I don't have a lot to offer. I never have. | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:14 thrawn2112 wrote: eh. he might actually be scum for taking this so seriously. only one way to find out...... If it only takes 2 votes left to kill me instantly scum could just vote right now and it'd be day over and one townie dead should i be taking this opportunity to goof off instead? | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:15 Hapahauli wrote: Let's not put a scare in the poor man quite yet. Antics are antics, but we have a long day ahead of us This day could last 10 minutes lol | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote: they're not serious DrH y u so srs? I don't know who Mr.Cheesecake or Dandel Ion are. So idk if they're being serious or not. If Coagulation or Pandain or someone was doing this right now I would have joined in the japes! | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:16 Dandel Ion wrote: You're not seeing the bigger picture. Too concerned with your own survival too. Certainity is rising to 130% Oh I forgot it was my responsibility to read your mind and not your responsibility to explain your read | ||
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You can't throw 3 joke votes down in a game like this. With a scumteam of 2, they can swoop in and force an instant mislynch. In the ensuing chaos it wouldn't be terribly difficult to swing suspicion onto one of the initial voters. However, I don't think any serious townie wouldn't have realized that. At least 1 scum I would imagine has already voted me. ##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote: You never had the balls. I KNEW IT! Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news. what makes you think that? | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You really think scum would hammer a random vote like that? That's recipe for getting owned the next day. I don't know, you seemed very convinced. I don't know anything about your meta at all, I naturally assumed you were being serious. | ||
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On March 05 2013 10:31 Hapahauli wrote: You're making the mistake of assuming that anything that just transpired was serious. But really, do you actually think that scum would hammer a townie within 10 minutes from the start of the game? Thats like "OH HEY GUYS POLICY LYNCH ME WOOOO!" I never joke around in mafia games so I just kinda assume everyone is the same way. Hence why I usually dip out for the first hour or so, my approach doesn't work in this kind of atmosphere. | ||
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but strike a off the list | ||
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On March 05 2013 11:27 thrawn2112 wrote: ok, here's a proposition: we choose our d1 lynch from the people that haven't posted as of right now? Pressuring lurkers = okay Arbitrarily deciding everyone posting thus far is town = not okay I see no reason scum couldn't hide amongst the people who have already contributed. If we really decide to lynch a random lurker, it's a crapshoot that scum can influence to just make sure it hits town. There needs to be better reasoning than that. Artanis is a euro so he might not be here for a while. Everyone else needs to post but there's no time limit so I would give it at least 12-24 hours to see if people contribute. People behaving scummy should always take priority over people who aren't doing anything at all and we need to let more time pass to allow peoples intentions to become more clear. | ||
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Seemed ready to go and be aggressive at the beginning of the game. Want to dip out when things start getting serious? Later. I'll catch up and see if I wanna vote elsewhere. I agree with Artanis actually. The fact that Hapahauli would automatically assume everyone involved in the meaningless banter is town is ludicrous. | ||
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Strangely after reading your argument with Artanis, I'm leaning scum on both of you. Artanis is SO noncommital though that I'm ready to vote for him. ##Unvote ##Vote: Artanis[xp] This post is insane bad: On March 06 2013 05:54 Promethelax wrote: This is Art's last stated opinion on me. So I am interested in what changed for him. I'm also interested in why he thinks he is a better nk target than the good doctor. 1. Promethelax is playing WAY different from LX where he was scum. The activity is there but it's also very different. He appears to actually care what other people think and is trying to come to some sort of understanding and evolve his reads. I don't feel he's hiding behind anything right now. 2. Artanis' post here is basically empty. Nothing weird about that necessarily but the fact that he is one of the centerpieces of town discussion so far and has had essentially nothing to say except "don't lynch me" is unforgivable. He's avoiding saying anything about everyone involved in the game and wants to call out the one person who has basically said nothing and is impossible to analyze. Avoiding the work? He's not even pushing jay that hard in this post, I don't know what Artanis' goal is and this comes off as posting for the sake of posting. His actual push for Vivax was weak as shit. "Hey your meta is different, ##Vote" and then does pretty much nothing to convince anyone else. What I want to see from you - Artanis - is a better job pushing your read. I'll do some more careful reading later. I'm also gonna be playing the new ME3 DLC. Vivax is playing pretty level headed which is unusual for him right? Is that a serious cause for concern? | ||
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On March 06 2013 06:38 Promethelax wrote: it was @Dan and no, I do need to talk down to somebody who refuses to do anything except buddy his buddy. I would prefer a town atmosphere where we catch scum. I don't really care if we have a happy hug-bear land or not. DrH, I've noticed you have returned. You have anything to say about not Dan? Artanis/Vivax/Jay one of these is a scum, that's my gut. I actually need a lot of time before I make a vote I'm comfortable with, I have a routine. | ||
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On March 06 2013 06:46 Promethelax wrote: yes it is, look at LIX for an example of his insane but town play vs fruity or lviii for his calm demeanor scum play. I'd say Vivax is one of the best scum players I've seen develop recently. His recent town play in NMM IV was pretty decent and not totally nuts but I still find his meta deeply indicative of a sum vivax. I want to see Artanis push his reads more though. I hate this kind of play. @Dandel Ion There are too many traps for a counterclaim. I'm not 100% confirmed unless I die, of course, but it would be a real bonehead move and my scum play is very careful regarding my own posting. I like to bus the shit out of my teammates and never claim. | ||
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On March 06 2013 06:48 Dandel Ion wrote: You just voted for me, and I don't even make the list? I'm real disappoint, son. Sorry, I meant to list people that are involved in the argument with Artanis supporting lynching Viv or Jay and Vivax supporting lynching Artanis. I remember last time I played with a town Artanis he was a DT who PM'd me and basically posted nothing strong in the thread and relied on me to push his checks and reads. So I'll think about that. If anyone hammers Artanis before he defends himself, they're scum. | ||
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On March 06 2013 06:51 Dandel Ion wrote: That, imo depends on the setup. I can see a 2goon team fakeclaiming NamedT. Again, I'm not disbelieving YOUR claim atm, that was a bit too stupid to be scum, but it's healthy to not completely forget about that stuff. Sure, it would be a semisafe fakeclaim in setup A. | ||
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Every time I'm scum I scream and yell at my teammates not to do any fancy plans, not to fakeclaim, to play safe and simple and they never listen. I'm not good at analyzing the setup so I don't like to rely on it for my own play. | ||
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As town, I know I don't read the setup very carefully cause it doesn't play too far into the way I scumhunt unless someone claims and then I look to see if there's a way I can trap with that. The less familiar a player is with the setup/rules, the more likely it is they are town. When a player ducks out of the day to only talk about that kind of stuff - it is very likely they care scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Dandel Ion | ||
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On March 06 2013 07:02 Dandel Ion wrote: I think I have been clear enough about my reads. No need to yell them over and over if they don't change in that time. WOW have you even read your own filter We need to hammer Dandel Ion right now. | ||
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Didn't he want to lynch people for not having posted like 10 minutes into the game and now he's just gone | ||
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On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote: I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means. But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse. Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless. ##Vote: jaybrundage | ||
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Also note this: 1. Dandel has been good in going after Vivax 2. I'm gonna sheep you and if you think Vivax is town that's good enough for me huh | ||
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On March 06 2013 13:34 jaybrundage wrote: Kind of frustrating when everyone and there mother think you are scum. Honeslty it doesn't matter tho. Day 1 townie lynches happen if town wants to lynch me. I would hope that it can provide information on scum tmw. I been trying to push my reads and not be overly spammy this game. And it just blows up in my face. fuck it. Whut There are a lot of other people being pushed today. There's an open opportunity in this game for any townie to defend himself and push someone else and you're already giving up? | ||
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I also tend to get caught up in second guesses when my super aggressive play tends to lead me in the right direction more than my levelheaded inquisitive one does. The trick is finding out what works about that aggression and employing it in a way that doesn't hurt town at all. | ||
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