Personality Mafia 2

On March 10 2013 06:54 Promethelax wrote:
I'm off to work for a while
but when I return I'll smile.
Because the game will start
and I will prove how smart
I am to all of you.
For now my friends, toodleoo.

On March 10 2013 19:20 supersoft wrote:
this game is moving too slow for my taste.
1. marv could you be a little bit more specific about Ver, please.
2. VE, I am always a little bit unsure about your motivations. Are you attacking yamato to start discussion or do you really think there is something scummy about his behaviour. If yes, please care to explain.

On March 10 2013 22:26 Mocsta wrote:

Yeah, yamato done nothing special and you giving him a town read. Way too eager.

On March 11 2013 01:10 Acrofales wrote:
Actually scratch the whole Chezinu thing. Scum wouldn't be dumb enough to be fake claiming Chezinu. So either Kurumi or WBG is town and is faking being Chezinu just for shits and giggles.

Could be either of them, but I get the impression it's Bugs faking it, while Kurumi is actually Chezinu, so town points for WBG.

On March 11 2013 01:23 Acrofales wrote:

He is posting like Chezinu, unless you know someone else who talks like that,

On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks

On March 11 2013 07:09 Promethelax wrote:
These two opponents
are both looking for rodents
while not scum hunting like they could
I'd take a gamble and say that one is no good.
No wonder of lynching each other they are proponents.

Now marv, my good friend
the day will soon come to an end.
Who is it you'd most like to swing?
Which lad do you must want to sing?
You aren't shy, don't pretend.

On March 11 2013 07:11 Kurumi wrote:

it could be false for all you know
i am pardoner
janitor
muter
super framer
roleblocker

On March 11 2013 07:12 Vivax wrote:


How is that mod-confirmed we don't know if that role belongs to scum or town and how it works.

You disappoint me marv

On March 11 2013 07:14 Vivax wrote:


Are you serious the host also tell an insane DT that his target is the opposite of what he really is that doesn't mean it is what the host said it is.

Anyway I like that Kurumi went off Chezinu mode, time to move on to the next riddler:

##Unvote
##Vote Promethelax

On March 11 2013 07:37 Vivax wrote:


Have you forgotten that we are roleplaying ?

Marv what do you make of Corazon please.

On March 11 2013 12:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Level in which people have virtually ignored all 3. Why am I the only one looking at 3 top players with any level of seriousness while everyone is derping around looking at anyone aside from those 3 and yamato? Top tier players like them should have at least one post in thread by now apologizing for lack of activity with an explanation for themselves.

On March 11 2013 12:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


limited availability does not mean 0 availability. He should have been able to make more than one post this cycle in some form of a contribution.

If you are so hesitant to off ver this early explain sloosh for me. He has his /in post only and is known for lurking hard and doing F all as scum.

On March 11 2013 17:39 supersoft wrote:
that shot and check was completely unreasonable... This hasty usage of blue powers looks suspicious to me.
Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good.

On March 11 2013 21:22 Mocsta wrote:
Oohhh so yam didnt have to claim the scalp. Got it.

I see. Interesting point actually. Makes me feel a lot better about prplhz. (& yam)

I cant see scum making a comment like that.

On March 11 2013 17:14 Vivax wrote:
Well I'm wary of agreeing with VE given the dishonest way he's posting arguments for my lynch , I'll take a look at Bugs later when I'm back but one argument that comes to my mind spontaneously is that he kept pushing Kurumi after the announcement came so it looks strange to me that he would keep pushing him as scum knowing the announcement was right when the mod says otherwise to the whole thread, so that kinda put him on the town side of things.

Otherwise, if you are scum yamato then your teammates knew that the announcement was right and I'm looking at people saying Kurumi was modconfirmed without doubting the announcement, marv especially. But that's for a lot later, I'll look at your future play now.

On March 11 2013 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I suppose you have something to say about my post on Vivax marv?

On March 11 2013 22:43 Oatsmaster wrote:


Um Yay?

Why are you not pushing dudes considering you dont have a lot of town reads?

On March 11 2013 22:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv could you spell out your suspicion of Cora for me? Like, for me? I know whatever it's in your filter, but if you mean it you can just repeat it for me bish do it.

On March 11 2013 01:44 cDgCorazon wrote:


Fucking hell hosts learn to balance the game...

On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:


I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...

On March 11 2013 08:06 cDgCorazon wrote:



Dude, this shitty logic is bad for your standards Marv. Why are you attacking me for having the same view as you? We literally just said the same thing (like the case but don't want to vote for it). You are saying that you are not going to vote because it does not make Oats mafia and I said I'd rather see Yamato lynched than Oats. What is the problem with that?

The thing is, Oats' meta is not the main part of the case. BnS laid out many reasons as to why he thinks Oats is scum and I just made a comment that I liked his case and that it had a lot of valid points in it.

Let me ask you this Marv: Would you rather I...

Say "I agree with SnB" and just vote for Oats?

or

Say "I think it's a good case but I'm going to continue to scumhunt and push my top scum read"

If you prefer #1 it would be such a glaring scumtell.

On March 11 2013 12:31 cDgCorazon wrote:
Vivax:
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Marv:
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Mocsta:
+ Show Spoiler +

These posts look very similar...are you sure you aren't piggybacking off of them? Kicking someone when they're down is not a very town thing to do, especially when you just rehash the arguments that knocked them down in the first place.

Not looking good for you Moc.

On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:


LOL
When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth...

Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit.

On March 11 2013 23:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote: Vivax

Uuuugghhhhhhh......what are your thoughts on Bugs man?

On March 11 2013 23:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
LOL

This is all I have to say to you Marv:



Don't hammer me for something and then ask me why the same thing you are hammering me for is a scum tell. That's fucking stupid.

I said I liked the case. You are looking way too much into that fact and you're just trying to shit up the thread.

On March 11 2013 23:23 cDgCorazon wrote:


I SAID I LIKED THE CASE AND THAT BnS HAD GOOD POINTS. IF I AGREE WITH THAT, PERHAPS I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT OATS.

This stupid attack on me with you contradicting yourself = shitting up the thread.

On March 11 2013 23:27 VisceraEyes wrote:


I think I'll just piggyback Vivax, Mocsta and Marv on this one. *shrug*

On March 11 2013 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
And to add to that, I'm fully aware that you didn't answer my previous question in the slightest. So please answer this one as completely as you can.

Vivax suspicion of Cora is a joke, and Mocsta's was too. I want you to convince me that Cora is scum.

On March 10 2013 15:12 Crossfire99 wrote:

Why are you fit to be tied? I ain't dun notin'. You're darn tootin', though, 'bout Ver. That is a cattywumpus post. I figure he got a 20% chance a playin' gainst his win condition, which sure seems suspect.

On March 10 2013 15:29 Crossfire99 wrote:

You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far.

On March 11 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yo, be easy and stop buggin folks. True, dis game be tight, but we don't want dis gettin outta hand and turnin into beef.


Aight, I'mma lay dis down fo yo. Votin for non-alignment reasons be wack. Na mean? Role playin be dope and errbody should be crunk bout it.

On March 11 2013 05:27 Crossfire99 wrote:

Just cause he be fakin jacks don't mean he scum. Role aint got nutin to do wit alignment. Judge 'im on if he bring dat bling (Chez brings da bling when he be from our hood and go off on dem scum). No bling, call da po-po, lock 'im in da joint, and give 'im dat needle.

On March 11 2013 23:33 cDgCorazon wrote:



There were 2 points in the case:

Oats goes after easy targets
Oats gives advice but doesn't follow it

What BnS said was given with evidence and they were both valid and well-supported. That's why I liked the case.

While it gave me a slightly scummy read on Oats, Yamato is still my #1 scumread. I said that and that's why I did not vote with Oats. I would love to pressure Oats when Yamato dies. However, I need to go after one target right now because if I hunt multiple people I hunt no one.

I didn't read LIX so idk how Oats played there. I don't see anyone complain to BnS about how Oats' meta was like this, so I don't even understand why it's only an issue when I agree with it.

Marv is grasping for reasons to call me scum here, so I called it shitting up the thread.

On March 11 2013 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the reason I stated in my post originally voting for him - because I hadn't filtered him.

On March 11 2013 23:46 cDgCorazon wrote:


I have to go but I can't say much so:

Hiro is the same when it comes to going after easy targets
Hiro has not given much advice so I can't say anything about #2

However, their play is slightly similar. A big lack of thread presence and a lack of scum hunting.

Hiro would be someone else I would be ok with lynching after Yamato.

(That brings the list of people to Oats, Hiro, and Acro-who hasn't contributed much besides overreacting to everything).

On March 12 2013 00:37 austinmcc wrote:

Because stutters is stutters, and I have played with him. Crossfire had posted and it was ALL fluff (and pretty much still is). slOosh is, again, someone who has impressed me as a townie, and someone i KNOW is generally lurky/less active as scum. Remember me checking him in parallel worlds? Same thing here. An uninterested slOosh is a scumslOosh imo, and as of yet we have no indication that his disinterest is personality-related and not because he's scum.

Seeing as how you initially responded to snb with summary statements like oats was town, felt like townoats, or whatever, I don't like how you are requesting others to go do the work of digging up oats's posts from past games and comparing his posts to others in this game and pastoats. You chose not to do that.

On March 12 2013 00:46 marvellosity wrote:
Here is Stutters' filter from LIX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344

Here is Stutters' filter here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204&user=276621

Do you think they look similar?

On January 22 2013 04:58 Stutters695 wrote:
I voted toad because his style seems much easier to read than yours, chezinus, or palmars to me. I even was doubting Palmar after the d1 lynch, and I had a scumread on you that was wrong almost the entire game. Toads style feels much more like my own and I think that will help us analyze why he would do whatever he does after becoming mayor.

On January 23 2013 08:24 Stutters695 wrote:
So you knew he was a smurf due to his silence? Obviously we know he is one now but newbies have entered reel games before and just been overwhelmed. Not a huge deal either way though.

Since you said you said you wouldn't want a smurf due to readability why wouldn't you vote for someone like Toad who is readable instead of supporting Chez? You say that it let you see if Chez was more readable but isn't that the exact same thing as voting a smurf except with a smurf not only does it offer the same chance to read them but also offers a chance of identifying who they are (which you implied you'd like to do)?

On March 12 2013 01:01 austinmcc wrote:

I don't really see how you could

On March 11 2013 07:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
the man in the sky tells us the rat is not a rat but a mouse

but the not-rat (actually a mouse) says he may be a mouse with a mask today and a rat tomorrow. "Today I die," the mouse says. And, he says, he will not tell us when he turns into a rat! Of course, any doorknob would know that a rat does not announce its own presence.

So is this mouse a mouse under the bridge, or a mouse over the bridge?

I say, brothers, that we burn the mouse and say our prayers, for it shall be safer for us if the mouse does not become rabid.

On March 12 2013 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Marv what do you make of Hiro? I don't see anything making me think he's town yet instead he seems to be sure that yamato's announcement meant Kurumi was confirmed town, wouldn't he doubt it at first since he's been pushing him as scumread just before?

Doesn't look to me like suspicious townie rather like scum that doesn't mind switching his target to a guy that's basically grushlike as town and unknown as mafia since he was scared of pushing a guy who has been announced as town.

On March 12 2013 01:24 Dandel Ion wrote:

Read the travesty that was Themed.

He didn't even post there from a certain point onwards, he just ninja-voted and was generally a very, very useless person.

And that after MTG where he played okay, even by non-lurker standards.

Policy lynching him is chill and all, but saying that he doesn't pull that shit as town is wrong.


Why don't you go after a lurker that's actually guaranteed to be scum, namely Crossfire.

On March 12 2013 01:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just sheep me.

On February 15 2013 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:
After checking his full filter, what really concerns me is that he does it again (misusing meta). If he said I should be policy lynched because he doesn't like how I'm playing I'd totally understand that. But implying I'm scummy despite multiple games with me with similar d1 posting by me doesn't sit wellwhen combined with what I said about Marv and him.

Other than those posts he doesn't say a whole lot. I'm leaning scum since all his other posts are calling people town and saying kurumi was scummy but never following through. I'd really like to hear his thoughts on who he'd lynch if I wasnt an option before I rush to judgement on him though since I've had people do this who were scum and town.

Going through filters who really concerns me is Mr.CC. I cohosted one of his games and obsed the others and I don't think I've ever seen him this inactive. That feels like a really large change. I need to see if he has actually played any non-newbies but unless he shows up he'd be a good policy lynch. Still going through filters though, that just stood out as really off to me.

On March 12 2013 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Seriously guys I'm not scum. Last time xfire did this that I remember he was total scummers (MtGII), last time I did this I was still town.

On March 12 2013 01:31 Dandel Ion wrote:

I have gotten the feeling you agreed on Crossfire.
So why don't you want to actually agree?

On March 12 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:


you've never done this.

On March 12 2013 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote:

So?

You keep arguing against the cross lynch with stutters arguments, now that's just stupid.
"I don't want to lynch Cross because what you said about stutters isn't true"
Like, seriously?

On March 12 2013 01:40 Vivax wrote:
Well marv regarding that post I checked the game it was the 15th, D1 was during the 13th, it was like the 10th post, so you have an idea of stutters' general posting activity he said himself he hates Day1s and hardly posts.

On the other hand his reaction just now looks strangely defensive I'm not used to that, I mostly got OMGUSED by him for attacking him when he was town so I'll FoS stutters so I don't have to go vote in the thread

On March 12 2013 01:40 Dandel Ion wrote:

I shouldn't need to.
You should be barely intelligent enough to see it yourself. Probably.

Not sloosh because I don't know the dude, so I can't pure meta him. I can Cross though, and the dude is scum.

On March 12 2013 01:42 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I was going you'd guys get who I received but apparently not. I rolled Kenpachi. I'll take it more seriously though. I want joking about XFire though, nearly everything else was worthless trolling since that seemed to be his MO.

On March 12 2013 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Austin why do I need to make a case when its obvious from what Marv posted that WBG is scum?
Stop waffling and put your vote down!

On March 12 2013 01:47 supersoft wrote:


i'm watching what happens really closely. But I haven't figured it out yet. I am filtering and rereading and will propose a solution in time.

On March 12 2013 01:49 Stutters695 wrote:

It wasn't an omgus, you were scum

I do hate d1 though, but I was hoping to rp it for fun but it'd be a waste of a day to lynch me and I do still want town to win.

On March 12 2013 02:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now crossfire. This feels just like his mtg2 play without the scum claim due to different mechanics.
I did miss the last ten pages or so due to sleep so I'm going to catch up on those now but I'd vote cross 100% right now.

On March 12 2013 02:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh, and Marvello is town.

I'll let that simmer through.

On March 12 2013 02:10 Dandel Ion wrote:

Oh yeah, and the medics should protect him.

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On March 12 2013 02:12 supersoft wrote:
please stop the rhyming. Noone does it on that forum, therefor no roleplay justifies it.

On March 12 2013 02:40 wherebugsgo wrote:



Hello, oh sparkly one. I wish I could see in colors!

The dog does not understand your slowness. Perhaps the sparkles are too much? Please, do not pay attention to the tail. It can be very distracting.

*woof woof*

Let me tell you a story, that I had told our crocodile friend. Mr Crocodile, I asked him, what would you do if you were the last crocodilian to live? Sorry, I suppose that is not specific enough. What if someone else said they were the last crocodilian?

I am the one true dog. There is no other dog. No other woofs and pants and licks and wags like me. The rat said he was the true dog. This made the dog angry.

Do you understand now, oh sparkly one? Surely you have realized-there cannot be two dogs.

I also smelled, that the impostor rat seemed oddly...familiar. Do you know of the Hindus? It was like that, as if the rat wanted to be an elephant. But that the elephant wasn't satisfactory, so he chose to try to become a dog.

I know this is all confusing, but let me put it this way: in a past life, I believe I had a trunk. I still sometimes feel the urge to snort water.

Remember, I am the one true dog. You may choose to put me down today, put me out of my misery. I am okay with that. Sometimes the dog must make the sacrifice for the greater good. However I do not think that you would be very happy with me afterward. You would see that then I would have been more useful in your service. As a guide doc, perhaps-to lead the blind and the ugly. And to bring in the chickens and herd sheep.

On March 12 2013 02:45 wherebugsgo wrote:


Do you not read, oh sparkly one?

If someone were to come and say, "I am the one and only sparkly one." Would you not seek to smite him?

Perhaps my dog brain is more sophisticated than yours. For that. I apologize for the confusion. Perhaps we can talk when you are done pondering incontemplatables.

On March 12 2013 03:00 wherebugsgo wrote:


Oh yes, sparkly one, you are quite the nitwit.

Once upon a time, there was legend, of a time when the eagles ruled. Do you know what I am talking about? During this time, the eagles hunted all the rats. The sniveling, dirty, poop-sniffing (although I admit I do it too) rats. All through this era, no rat was spared. After all, why trust any rat? Once a rat, always a rat. At least, until The Punishment.

The Punishment cannot be spared for any rat. If we were to allow the mouse to become a rat, would we not have some problem?

The rat Kurumi had said, maybe later I may still be a rat. But how would we know if he becomes a rat? Sure, maybe as a mouse he will tell us. Then why indeed did he also think it the right thing to do? Maybe he, as a mouse, could only win with mice if he choked on cheese. The Punishment made him forever a mouse. Sometimes there are traitor mice. In this case the true rats could use the mouse and spread the Plague!

However, one must remember: the dog knew that the rat was spreading lies. The dog will not tolerate that, no. Any such rat will quickly become the dog's chew toy.

Perhaps you will understand this now. Alas, the dog has qualification exams and has not been vigilant. Perhaps soon he will become a guard dog.

On March 12 2013 03:01 slOosh wrote:

Cause he can get massive towncred for it and use it as a platform of pushing mafia agenda and blind you guys from seeing blatant contradictions like the one I just pointed out.

On March 12 2013 03:05 Promethelax wrote:


Twice now our dog has claim doc
on his soft claim I lay a pox
we need a full claim
giving half is so lame
I think I believe him. Not!

On March 12 2013 03:07 yamato77 wrote:

You say that like you ever listen to me, lawlz.

On March 12 2013 03:09 yamato77 wrote:
Prom, kill super with me.

Marv, you too. You know super as town is not a pile of shit.

He's obviously here, reading the thread, he's just fucking off.

I say that's mafia super right there.

On March 12 2013 03:15 slOosh wrote:

lol dude stop sidestepping

yamato shot modconfirmed town

Be clear with it: do you think he is town?

Cause right now all you are doing is theorizing on how viable of a mafia move it is, not how scummy yamato actually is.

On March 12 2013 03:30 wherebugsgo wrote:


Oh great Hero, please explain to the dog. The dog disagrees. While the dog is chasing cats, the imperfect one is quiet. The dog is used to seeing the imperfect one. The dog smells funny things when the imperfect one is absent.

On March 12 2013 03:51 wherebugsgo wrote:


the bird is not speaking the truth.

The dog would like proof.

On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.

On March 12 2013 04:15 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato's defense for everything is that the other person's argument is stupid because he is obviously town.

He calls people out for being scum and never expands on it, which Sloosh just mentioned. The only time he expanded on calling someone scum was on VE, and he quoted 1 post and called him scum in like 2 sentences. I'm not sure why you guys call that scumhunting...

Hiro is calling me scum because he is OMGUSing.

@Vivax: The reason I did not attack Yamato when you did was because I was either playing SC2 (yesterday evening) or I was asleep. I've made it quite clear why I think Yamato is scum and my vote is backing that up.

On March 12 2013 04:19 slOosh wrote:
I don't trust yamato's mouth. All I see, and all anyone from a town p.o.v. shoud see is that kita modconfirms Kurumi as town, and then 2 hours later modconfirmed town Kurumi gets shot.

On the most basic of levels, a town yamato means there is a role that checks someone and if they are green they get shot some time (2 hours) later. Clearly the shot did not immediately follow the check, cause if it did Kurumi would have died right then and there. I mean, you caught me with this kind of bs in bureaucracy when I pretended to be vig right? How is this claim so easily believable?

As for "is yamato a good enough scum to pull it off" - there are many experienced players in this game and it's not too hard to see some on being scum team.

On March 12 2013 04:27 slOosh wrote:

No need to be condescending.

Is "yamato couldn't pull this off" the sole reason for your town read on him? Big enough to excuse any and everything scummy about his play?

On March 12 2013 04:31 supersoft wrote:
addtion to B) 2. the claim was probably unnecessary, a more likely option would have been to not claim. but who know what possibilities there are to detect the personalitly of a player.

On March 12 2013 04:32 austinmcc wrote:
BC doesn't seem to want to talk about anything that isn't Foolishness/ver/slOosh. Why petition him?

On March 12 2013 04:39 Vivax wrote:
I actually do believe that the mod-confirmation came from yamato himself as part of the role, the problem is simply the timing, the choice of targets and the process before. If he was town he would have poked more or pushed people instead he chose a dude roleplaying a troll in a crossfire of accusations who asked to be lynched. A perfect target for scum with a role that could probably only shoot day 1 (that's my assumption).

I have to be honest I don't have strong scumreads yet aside from him and keep searching for other options but yamato is a guy who I don't want around with all these doubts about him and some weird defences that don't seem to make sense.

No stupid things, we go the safe way and lynch the guy who killed town D1 without any remorse.

He should be lynched today

On March 12 2013 04:41 supersoft wrote:


yes thats true.



and thats also true.

but the delay is also strange. and the timing is - in my opinion - only wrong for a townie. So wrong I want to cry.

On March 12 2013 04:47 austinmcc wrote:
marv, say I put you on the police force of my fine town which you should elect me mayor of.

Do you use your check on yamato tonight?

(note: I don't put anybody on a police force. This is hypothetical, just less dumb than my normal hypotheticals)

On March 12 2013 04:52 austinmcc wrote:
Right answer, but I don't like not arguing with you.

On March 12 2013 04:54 supersoft wrote:
well marv. If you have that role as scum.
You modconfirm and kill the targets delayed. This modconfirming looks kind of townish, because it's just unnecessary in the first place as scum. But you can use that unnecessary power to your advantage if you claim.
However yamato didn't play the "why would scum have that ability"-card enough yet...

On March 12 2013 04:53 slOosh wrote:

cuz you still haven't mentioned anything about my behavioral analysis points

so yea, not honest

On March 12 2013 04:57 Vivax wrote:


I think the way SlOosh is pushing the lynch shows he really wants to get him lynched so I don't think he's scum. As for crossfire, he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.

Bugs idk but I would probably policy lynch him if he doesn't change his play cause I understand less than I'd like to.

On March 12 2013 00:14 Crossfire99 wrote:

That'd be ill if that's all I did. I posted a few phat things I found, but I'm still looking and will post the gnarly things as I find them.

On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.

On March 12 2013 05:01 Vivax wrote:
Marv I'll try to put this nice you prefer to argue that someone is townie instead of arguing that someone is scummier than that guy and should be lynch that is worrying and not productive you are being unnaturally sure that yamato is town at this stage.

On March 12 2013 04:46 marvellosity wrote:


yuh, i agree. i think town-yamato is WAY more impulsive than mafia-yamato, though.

I think he is town but I'm not certain of this fact. But there's enough there that makes me not want to lynch him today. Vivax/you/slOosh are right - it IS a good scumshot. There's no denying that. Still dunno why he claimed that shit though. And if it was actually a planned mafia-move, I would have expected a more concise, well thought through explanation.

Remember that slOosh was talking about when he fake-claimed vigilante in Bureaucracy? Look at the difference - slOosh took however long he took constructing a post to look as good as he could make it to try to give his claim legitimacy. That's what a scumclaim like that usually looks like. yamato's is shit and all over the place, like it's not planned at all.

On March 12 2013 05:01 supersoft wrote:


alternative target? Bugs?

On March 12 2013 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I go with the few I have on him, I won't go into something as unproductive as talking about my townreads thanks I answered to stutters.

Also yours isn't a question it's a statement, I took a look at his filter and this is the summary of it.
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On March 12 2013 05:08 supersoft wrote:
yeah prplhz why not... I don't like wbgs rhyming though... It's so useless

On March 09 2013 09:21 prplhz wrote:
lets start now

i seriously can't wait

On March 12 2013 05:10 prplhz wrote:
For real?

On March 12 2013 05:20 Vivax wrote:
Yamato red → marv red → possibly Hiro red

On March 12 2013 05:30 prplhz wrote:

I am playing this game, as you can see I am actively keeping up with the thread. I'm just not talking much because I don't see any reason for me to do that, I don't have much to offer and my personality doesn't do much day1 either (though for entirely different reasons, at least he thinks so).

Why do you want to lynch me on day1 with my claim?

On March 12 2013 05:54 prplhz wrote:

Complete bullshit.

On March 12 2013 06:04 iamperfection wrote:
On topic one of the big reasons i don't want to lynch vivax is i don't trust foolish at all. Reads to me exactly like our last game together where he stop in drop a case then afk. He seems to have no interest in this lynch at all.

On March 12 2013 06:13 iamperfection wrote:

could you be swayed into sloosh?

On March 12 2013 06:20 Vivax wrote:

As for marv I'll see how he performs but as said that hard defence of yamato looks scummy cause on second thought he also gets credit if yamato is town.

On March 12 2013 06:20 wherebugsgo wrote:


oh sparkly one, you are so blind.

I would help you, but you want to kick my dog! You will get what you deserve when I am gone.

On March 12 2013 06:24 risk.nuke wrote:

Also a cool way to try to justify throwing your vote away.

On March 12 2013 06:42 prplhz wrote:
Of course a claim has influence on my alignment, especially an early claim of a anonymous scum favored role.

Jesus christ.

On March 12 2013 06:42 Vivax wrote:


Useful comment I must say, marv so gud

Why Bugs over prplhz?

On March 12 2013 06:47 cDgCorazon wrote:
I really don't understand why we aren't voting for Yamato. His scumhunting has been a bunch of accusations without any follow up. He still hasn't given any reasoning why VE is scum besides the one post early on in the game. Everyone has just called me scum for attacking him and are just attacking me, not my argument (everyone besides Moc).

He also refuses to answer my questions about the number of shots he has and why there was a delay between the reveal and the kill. It looks really fishy to me.

On March 12 2013 06:49 Vivax wrote:
Although I have another question why not Ver he has by far made the least contributions.

On March 12 2013 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Oh are we finding scum by looking at contribution/post ratio lately?
I think Bugs contributed by faking that shot on prplhz and showing us his lurky nature so that's something. Ver didn't even read his role PM or post after saying that so yeah

On March 12 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:


He made one post saying that VE was "acting suspicious" and then made a bunch of other posts saying "VE is scum lynch him". Did I miss something?

His only saving grace is that he said Kurumi or Bugs was scum and now that he decided Kurumi was a good vig target he's going after bugs.

Taking an opinion of the majority of the thread and going after bugs along with everyone else is lazy town play at best.

As I've said before, something is off about Yamato. He needs to die.

On March 12 2013 06:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
the sparkly one would rather kill the loyal dog over the cockroach.

And yet he is mad!

On March 12 2013 07:02 wherebugsgo wrote:


the dog is not refusing to play!

it is the sparkly one who is prickly.

On March 12 2013 07:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
please, kill the dog now.

##unvote prplhz

##vote wherebugsgo

the dog does not want to live in this cruel world any longer.

On April 13 2012 05:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
fuck this, I still care about this game. I have to play to my win condition.

On March 12 2013 07:17 Acrofales wrote:
Marv, are you town this game? Should I sheep you until I have time to read 25 more pages of limericks,dog barf and other drivel?

On March 12 2013 07:21 prplhz wrote:

I don't feel like posting a lot of drivel. It's complete bullshit that you don't think that my claim has anything to do with my alignment and I'm not sure what to think about that.

On March 12 2013 07:36 supersoft wrote:
get your shit together, wbg. Really.

On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote:

You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town.

On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote:


No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is.

On March 12 2013 08:02 supersoft wrote:
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.

On March 12 2013 08:07 supersoft wrote:
Do we have a proper case on corazon? I see nothing good or bad in his filter and his filter is relatively large compared to many others.

On March 12 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would also vote for Crossfire. He has contributed nothing original all game.

##Vote Crossfire

On March 12 2013 08:16 supersoft wrote:
just one little sidenote:
I am rereading the thread and I often see people exaggerating and writing really onesided cases. If you don't balance pros and cons, I cannot follow your chain of thought and therefor you don't convince me.

On March 12 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote:


Are you nuts you just voted for crossfire out of nowhere when there's a steaming bandwagon on your scumread waiting for you.

Doesn't look to me like you want him to die now does it?

On March 12 2013 08:20 Vivax wrote:
The same applies to marv btw why suddenly looking for reasons to switch to crossfire?

On March 12 2013 08:28 supersoft wrote:


hehe, i wasn't talking about your case, however it's also pretty onesided.
regarding bugs.

1. It's quite simple. I believe he rolled chezinu. + Show Spoiler +
As Chezinu that play makes sense.

2. He's a good player, especially if he's scum, we probably won't succeed lynching him.
______

I only find it scummy, that he doesnt care about my scummy-absence the last 20 hours :-/
all in all, he should definetely live another day.

On March 12 2013 08:32 cDgCorazon wrote:


Why are you bringing this up almost 48 hours after the fact? If you wanted to call me out for it you should have then, not now.

Yamato's normal town play is abrasive but purposeful. His play and reads this game has been all over the place. Many calls of scum, only a small percentage of them have been followed through with actual evidence.

On March 12 2013 08:39 prplhz wrote:
Okay.

That's probably what everybody feels like about a day1 lynch.

On March 12 2013 08:41 cDgCorazon wrote:


No, call shit out when you see it. Make it relevant to the discussion instead of randomly throwing it out there.

On March 12 2013 08:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
What? No when did I ever say or imply anything like that prplhz? And why are you talking so much? For someone who so fervently attests that he has no opinions on anything at all, you seem to be relatively verbose in pushing this Bugs lynch.

On March 12 2013 09:31 strongandbig wrote:
it's also possible that yamato had to say the "pro gf snipe" line for his shot to work, and he wasn't actually an anonymous dayvig but just has managed to trick everyone into thinking he was.

just playing devil's advocate.

On March 12 2013 09:34 strongandbig wrote:


you serious? what makes yamato and ver excellent choices.

ver is a policy lynch pure and simple.

yamato is most likely town. bad town but town nonetheless.

On March 12 2013 09:35 Vivax wrote:


What I said the same do you people even read what I write.

On March 12 2013 10:34 Foolishness wrote:
I'm pretty sure cDgCorazon is town. At least right now he'd be a terrible lynch. Crossfire I don't know I haven't analyzed him yet. I actually think that marvellosity is mafia but I call him scum every game and I'm always wrong so that probably means as much as VE saying he doesn't post a lot.

On March 12 2013 10:37 Foolishness wrote:

No one game I was town but you were town too.

On March 12 2013 11:00 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sorry I played so terribly. I deserve to be lynched. Watch vivax because he pegged me as town even though i played like crap. Watch out for dandel. he might be scum but i'm not sure cause i've only been scum when i've played with him.