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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 13:38 GMT
#2793
Not me who has to calm down, I post arguments and questions, marv posts insults as per usual.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 13:42 GMT
#2797
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 22:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hey Vivax besides having abysmal reads, what about this:
Show nested quote +
Some stupid townies say it's concerning when I play "normally", it's like asking me to play crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched. I don't know what's up with people. They think I'd play the same in every game, I'm not that stupid as either alignment, and I keep learning more about this game.

Are you playing crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched? Sure looks like you trying to play what's supposedly "normal" for you.

Cuz I know you'd be able to not be a massive dickhead if you tried to.

If you want I can also quote some of your posts demanding lynches on other players (like me!) for playing blatantly anti-town.

What gives?


Also, I need your top 5 townreads.


My townreads are my not-scumreads, Mengenlehre. Go on.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 13:55 GMT
#2810
On March 14 2013 22:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 14 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2013 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
Oh in case I forget later in my righteous fury.

I am a medic and I'm gonna protect iamperfection.

thanks bro


This might change if you don't comment on the things I've written so far

i agree foolish should die and sloosh still dosn't make me think he is town.

I said it last night as well anyone who has doubts about a town marv should look at you analysng the interaction with vivax and myself by you. If that doesn't look like somebody figuring stuff out then i don't know what it.


In your opinion Foolish's absolutely longest read and explanation post in this game doesn't look like someone figuring things out?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 13:59 GMT
#2813
I mean, it's not hard to look like you're figuring things out when you have 24 pages of filter, that's 24/129 pages.

→ 18,6 % of the posts in this game are by marv, who "is" 3,3 % of the players in this game.

He probably beats Bill Murray by a long shot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:01 GMT
#2816
well he's 4 % of the players actually.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:06 GMT
#2828
On March 14 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
[image loading]

a disinterested 3rd party made me a pretty picture


A truly disinterested one if he thinks you're right about what you say.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:11 GMT
#2835
You know, marv could agree on lynching his scumread Crossfire and see who of Foolish or Ver are scum.

Marv says there's nothing about Ver to make him think he's town and prefers Foolish.

Marv claimed DT in the thread and didn't get shot nor roleblocked.

Marv cherrypicks and takes every chance to go ad hominem on people trying to figure the game out.

Marv says that a scum Foolish getting a nuke would not shoot a DT to make us believe he's town.

Cmon
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:14 GMT
#2840
Well he used his DT check as reason to forget about Crossfire and go full out on Foolish apparently, so your argument would also apply to him. Why didn't you tell him his DT check was useless then?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:20 GMT
#2847
On March 14 2013 23:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:14 Vivax wrote:
Well he used his DT check as reason to forget about Crossfire and go full out on Foolish apparently, so your argument would also apply to him. Why didn't you tell him his DT check was useless then?

he knows it's useless.


Then he should want even more to lynch Crossfire instead of Foolish.

Crossfire was one of his scumreads D1.
Crossfire was his scumread at the end of the night.
Crossfire used his nuke in a bad, scummy way during the day and barely plays this game.

A crossfire flipping red would redeem Foolish who you don't want to mislynch when you're town. A Foolish who is putting effort into this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:22 GMT
#2851
Oh well this usually works with fanboy towns like this as shown in LX:

Hey guys I'm sandroba playing from Vivax's account sheep me cause my name is leet and stuff.

And with this, gl on lynching Foolish.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:36 GMT
#2881
Cora is town lalalalalala
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:40 GMT
#2887
On March 14 2013 23:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm done talking. Peace out.



Cora we can mourn together how you were one of the better players post-game but for the time being please put your vote where it matters.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:42 GMT
#2891
Also don't answer to marv he aims to pull people into small-sized conversations picking at their latest posts instead of having them look at filters.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:46 GMT
#2899
Acro is more interesting but you don't talk about Acrofales at all (except lately you mention him casually as strange)


Acrofales de-facto-proof that he's pushing scum agenda:[/i]

Says Iamp is partially suspicious for voting Bugs. Acrofales voted Bugs with this:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2013 07:27 Acrofales wrote:
Fine. My flight's boarding and browsing your filter it is looking like duel D1.

I like that last post showing how differently bugs plays as town from his useless defeatist attitude this game, and my vote on Ver is going nowhere. I'll get back to that tomorrow. When I get home I hope I can make a better reasoned out vote, but for now:

BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA

##vote wherebugsgo



On March 13 2013 11:37 Acrofales wrote:
*snip*

Iamperfection: not his aggressive, assertive self. Could be roleplaying, but as Marv said, town Iamperfection is so easy to read, he is almost as good as an IC. Iamp is not playing like that this game. Also voted for Bugs, but has a better reason than Mocsta.

*snip*

Yes, I realize that I have way too many scumspects. This game is impossible to read and clear up townies. I'm glad I even found 4. We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow.


We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow he says. Then the D2 action with checks and nukes arises, he says he still thinks Ver is more likely scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 13 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:
On March 13 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On March 13 2013 19:36 supersoft wrote:
balancediscussion in the meantime:

These players: X Scummers among them
1. Vivax
23. Promethelax
19. iamperfection
5. HiroPro
10. austinmcc
13. Oatsmaster
14. Stutters695
15. strongandbig
18. Mocsta
21. Acrofales
22. cDgCorazon
9. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion
2. Crossfire99
___________________________________________


Other players: Y Scummers among them
7. marvellosity
4. risk.nuke
6. prplhz
16. slOosh

20. Ver
- opposite aligned -
17. Foolishness
- shot -
24. yamato77


X + Y = 5

X = ?
Y = ?

tell me bros


I don't understand the dividing line for "balance" purposes. Is that veterans vs. scrubs?

As for a list from scum -> town, I just made a list last night. Nothing has changed.


given you had Foolish somewhere around null and he just shot one of your "strongest townreads", nothing changes?

Foolishness was null, leaning scum yesterday and still is. The nuke is currently meaningless, as there are too many explanations for it. Until Kita or Greymist launch the nuke, I withhold reservation. Trolling about nuking Yamato fits with his playstyle this game, which is STILL better than Ver's.

Even without your parity check, it makes sense for there to be a scum between the two giants in the game. If we disregard framers, that means there is 1 scum and 1 town between them. I still think Ver is the more likely scum, unless someone can point me to Foolishness being a massive troll a scum.


He states : If nuke real we kill Foolishness, if not, we kill him tomorrow:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
/facepalm

Anyway, I don't know why we are speculating about the nuke being real. If it is, we kill Foolishness. If it isn't, we kill Foolishness tomorrow. In the meantime, we should kill someone else.

SS: for a confirmed townie who is hanging around to give us guidance, you are not guiding much. Do you agree with me that Cora is scum? If not, who should we kill today?



Still votes for Foolish when nukes are fake with no reasoning given, showing his previous reasons are complete bogus.

On March 14 2013 05:27 Acrofales wrote:
So... ok.

##vote Foolishness

Sloosh wasted a couple of hours, but comes out looking townier and Xfire also looking townier, so I'll call it a win.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:50 GMT
#2902
Well cool I posted about acro ages ago along with super and you still say I'm only playing like shit despite agreeing with me?

Why not work with me to infer on further reasons to think Acro is scum and instead work against that goal?

Are you really interested into him? Then let's dig some more shall we? Can you find me some more reasons on why he's scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:51 GMT
#2904
BROADCAST TO ALL FANBOYS:

MARV THINKS ACRO MIGHT BE SCUM TIME TO DIG FILTERS
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 14:54 GMT
#2908
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.


Holy shit Oats I love you.

<3 <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 15:03 GMT
#2914
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Austin, you are unlynchable but have scumreads and town still wants to lynch you over your scumreads.

Do you not post anything about your scumreads to persuade them just cause you're unlynchable?
Do you think he would just not do anything cause he's unlynchable as town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 15:13 GMT
#2922
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 15 2013 00:09 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 00:03 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Austin, you are unlynchable but have scumreads and town still wants to lynch you over your scumreads.

Do you not post anything about your scumreads to persuade them just cause you're unlynchable?
Do you think he would just not do anything cause he's unlynchable as town?
You'd post, and you'd try to swing the lynch other ways.

But...you'd do 2 things. You'd post reads/arguments, and you'd inform everyone you were unlynchable. You still get your reads/arguments into the thread, and people know you're not going to die, that you don't care about the lynch, etc.

Foolishness did 3 things. He posted reads/arguments, informed everyone he was unlynchable, and also worried about how townie he looked/what actions would make him look townier. To the extent that he is concerned with that, who cares, because HE WILL SURVIVE A MO-FO-ING lynch. It's good to want to look townie. It's good to want people to listen to you. It's not good to want to look townie, want people to listen to you, and conveniently forget that you are claiming to be unlynchable, which means that the actions of the game will make you look super townie as they play out. At the very least, that consideration should be in your mind. And it doesn't seem to have been there for Foolishness.


The thing is, people are less prone to believe your scumreads if they believe you're scum in the first place. I don't see why Foolish should completely disregard defending himself just cause he claims to be unlynchable, also his post was a long story of thought process throughout the game, so the points to his defense come, let's say naturally.

Look austin, from your perspective, it's the start of the day, so a lot of people want to lynch you. You could simply tell your scumreads, or you could tell your scumreads and defend yourself to make yourself more credible.

The latter is always a better option, unlynchable or not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 14 2013 15:22 GMT
#2926
Anyway, how does ANY of this make you think I am scum?


You went against your own reasons simple.
Arguing against it with other points that are unrelated (changing your mind afterwards) won't change anything about that.

1. Using something as a point against someone you did yourself. Doesn't matter if Iamp was scumread or not, you said he looks bad cause of something you did as well. You say people on the Bugs wagon with weak reasons are suspicious. That includes you.

You announced you would want to lynch Ver. You didn't want to lynch Ver (while still posting he looks bad during the day, a few hours difference between the posts don't make a difference between about to be modkilled/not about to be modkilled, also you didn't give any reasoning for preferring Foolishness over him.)

And anyway, Ver has been replaced by darth punk, so I suppose the guy he's playing is not about to get modkilled anymore, how does that change things for you?

You announced you would not lynch Foolish if the nukes were fake. You voted Foolish with the nukes being fake.
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