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On March 14 2013 10:00 marvellosity wrote:You are all being very, very stupid. ONE post from Foolish and you behave like this? Two things. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 08:41 supersoft wrote:
sloosh I LOVE it!
good job. You gave to nukes to the right people. Really well played. Seriously.
Okay my new circle of trust:
Prom, sloosh, Foolishness, vivax, cDgCorazon.
You don't vote each other. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 09:01 supersoft wrote:
issue is between these guys today:
crossfire
Oatsmaster
Marv
Yamato
Ver if you weren't confirmed town and dead, I'd lynch you for being really stupid. sorry supersoft. The most important thing of all is this. This is the most important part of Foolish's post.Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:
Can you summarize your post cause I don't have enough time to read this?
yamato, crossfire, marvellosity are all mafia, and should be killed in that order. The remaining two I don't know, maybe Ver or prphlz, maybe stutters or mocsta, not really sure.
yamato, crossfire, marvellosity, in that order. Ask yourself. Why in that order? marvellosity-scum is a mafia leader. He's a mafia organiser, he's a mafia motivator. marvellosity-scum holds teams together. I am the head of any team, the danger. I have the best mafia record on the whole of TL for good reason. Check my profile. marvellosity-scum is fucking shitting up the thread, throwing false accusations around, and town are prone to following marvellosity-scum. marvellosity-scum is far more destructive to the thread than crossfire-scum or yamato-scum. marvellosity-scum SHOULD BE DYING TODAY. Not in 3 days. Now ask yourself this. You know everything I have just said is true. it should be ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that you cut off the head now. Why has foolishness not called for my death today? Because he knows that it will be very, very, very hard to win a 1v1 with me. Even though you're all fawning over one mega-post. He's taking the easy way out. To repeat, and it's in his filter, Foolishness is 100% sure I'm mafia. I should be the only lynch for today. I on the other hand, am town, and am not taking the easy way out. Today, it is either me or Foolish. Make your beds and lie in it town. No-one else. Him. Me.
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Cool speech.
Summary:
1. Marv is calling to be a lynch option over others and telling town to not consider anything besides him and Foolish.
2. There are 5 scum in this game and town should only consider two guys for lynch. Of which one is alleged scum and the other alleged town.
3. Marv just did a mistake. He had crossfire as scum here (snipped, it's his wishywashy read post):
On March 13 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote:
Crossfire
Nothing in his filter says town. At all. The reason we didn't lynch him is because he conveninently showed up as the votes were piling on him, and was like "oh lol is it deadline lol daylights saving time" and it seemed kinda genuine. What the fuck has he done with this reprieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Looks like mafia.
and when it's day he never gives another opinion on him except this:
On March 14 2013 04:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 04:18 slOosh wrote:
Fair point. Now, let's get back to discussing the NUKERs? Crossfire is shooting at someone I'm convinced is mafia. good. Mafia is shooting at someone I think is town. Vivax is batshit insane. We're done.
So basically, Foolish is asking for a crossfire lynch. And marv, instead of agreeing with Foolish on lynching their common scumread Crossfire (given that - If crossfire flips scum then marv shouldn't doubt Foolish anymore, which is the wisest choice), says we should only consider marv and Foolish for lynch.
Would you do this as town?
Well played marv, well played.
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tl dr:
Marv says he sure about crossfire, Foolish says he sure about crossfire.
People in thread would rather lynch crossfire than marv or Foolish.
Marv doesn't want crossfire to be lynched when crossfire flip would prove that Fool is town.
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AND: Whole reason for marv to be believing xfire to be town would be:
My scumread just shot another scumread therefore he must be town.
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(Sorry for quadruple)
@ Marv
Marv who would you lynch today if we don't lynch Foolishness?
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Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead?
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On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead? i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool
What lynch deadline stuff? The stuff where he acted confused about the time?
You know, I built in "townslips" in LX where I looked like I didn't know how scum KP works.
What makes you think Ver is mafia?
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So in your opinion we should lynch Fool and Ver next?
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Riddle me this:
Foolishness wakes up a nice day and marv is pushing him to the gallows with his horde of enthusiastic fanboys
He finds a nice nuke in front of his door and decides to target his 100 % scumread yamato with it instead of marv.
Why would he as scum not shoot town marv?
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On March 14 2013 11:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 11:13 Vivax wrote:
Riddle me this:
Foolishness wakes up a nice day and marv is pushing him to the gallows with his horde of enthusiastic fanboys
He finds a nice nuke in front of his door and decides to target his 100 % scumread yamato with it instead of marv.
Why would he as scum not shoot town marv? because that would be claiming scum imo
Marv claimed check on Foolish, everyone wanted to lynch Foolish, how would be care about claiming scum?
Explain how it'd be a scumclaim, and explain how it's not a scumclaim when I do it. That's a huge inconsistency in arguments you show there.
Seriously iamp you're making me doubt you're town currently.
Look at the filter you quoted and tell me it looks like marv from this game please.
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On March 14 2013 19:55 supersoft wrote:
i solved this game! forget everything i said before!
It's not hard when you start from the presumption that Acro and yamato are scum.
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Acro, yamato, marv are obviscum
Hiro, Oats and maybe risk might be excluded for some interactions with acro, also had an early vote from him but might be meaningless
S & B, crossfire, prplhz seem like good remaining candidates, however crossfire would have been bussed pretty early.
For remindal: Scum doesn't want yamato dead. (This is so easy to show that you should be ashamed as town)
Evidence:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 12 2013 11:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Day One Update
cDgCorazon (1): HiroPro, Mocsta, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes (0): yamato77
Mocsta (0): Oatsmaster
iamperfection (0): Kurumi,wherebugsgo
Acrofales (0): risk.nuke
Ver (0): Acrofales, BloodyC0bbler
Hiropro (0): iamperfection
Oatsmaster (1): strongandbig
Yamato77 (6): cDgCorazon, VisceraEyes, slOosh, Vivax, Foolishness, BloodyC0bbler
Promethelax (0): Vivax
Stutters965 (0): HiroPro, iamperfection, Marvellosity
Crossfire99 (7): austinmcc, VisceraEyes, Dandel Ion, stutters695, VisceraEyes, supersoft, strongandbig, marvellosity, Ver
austinmcc (0): Oatsmaster
wherebugsgo (8): VisceraEyes, Promethelax, Oatsmaster, Mocsta, Crossfire99, austinmcc, marvellosity, Wherebugsgo, iamperfection, Vivax, Acrofales
Vivax (0): Foolishness, VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster, Marvellosity
Supersoft (1): yamato77
SlOosh (2): HiroPro, iamperfection, risk.nuke
prplhz (1): wherebugsgo, Vivax, Vivax, Wherebugsgo
50 minutes remain. Please let me know if you notice a mistake
Acrofales de-facto-proof that he's pushing scum agenda:
Says Iamp is partially suspicious for voting Bugs. Acrofales voted Bugs with this:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 12 2013 07:27 Acrofales wrote:
Fine. My flight's boarding and browsing your filter it is looking like duel D1.
I like that last post showing how differently bugs plays as town from his useless defeatist attitude this game, and my vote on Ver is going nowhere. I'll get back to that tomorrow. When I get home I hope I can make a better reasoned out vote, but for now:
BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA
##vote wherebugsgo
On March 13 2013 11:37 Acrofales wrote:
*snip*
Iamperfection: not his aggressive, assertive self. Could be roleplaying, but as Marv said, town Iamperfection is so easy to read, he is almost as good as an IC. Iamp is not playing like that this game. Also voted for Bugs, but has a better reason than Mocsta.
*snip*
Yes, I realize that I have way too many scumspects. This game is impossible to read and clear up townies. I'm glad I even found 4. We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow.
We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow he says. Then the D2 action with checks and nukes arises, he says he still thinks Ver is more likely scum:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 13 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 19:36 supersoft wrote:
balancediscussion in the meantime:
These players: X Scummers among them
1. Vivax
23. Promethelax
19. iamperfection
5. HiroPro
10. austinmcc
13. Oatsmaster
14. Stutters695
15. strongandbig
18. Mocsta
21. Acrofales
22. cDgCorazon
9. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion
2. Crossfire99
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Other players: Y Scummers among them
7. marvellosity
4. risk.nuke
6. prplhz
16. slOosh
20. Ver
- opposite aligned -
17. Foolishness
- shot -
24. yamato77
X + Y = 5
X = ?
Y = ?
tell me bros I don't understand the dividing line for "balance" purposes. Is that veterans vs. scrubs? As for a list from scum -> town, I just made a list last night. Nothing has changed. given you had Foolish somewhere around null and he just shot one of your "strongest townreads", nothing changes? Foolishness was null, leaning scum yesterday and still is. The nuke is currently meaningless, as there are too many explanations for it. Until Kita or Greymist launch the nuke, I withhold reservation. Trolling about nuking Yamato fits with his playstyle this game, which is STILL better than Ver's. Even without your parity check, it makes sense for there to be a scum between the two giants in the game. If we disregard framers, that means there is 1 scum and 1 town between them. I still think Ver is the more likely scum, unless someone can point me to Foolishness being a massive troll a scum.
Status update: If nuke real we kill Foolishness, if not, we kill him tomorrow:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 14 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
/facepalm
Anyway, I don't know why we are speculating about the nuke being real. If it is, we kill Foolishness. If it isn't, we kill Foolishness tomorrow. In the meantime, we should kill someone else.
SS: for a confirmed townie who is hanging around to give us guidance, you are not guiding much. Do you agree with me that Cora is scum? If not, who should we kill today?
Still votes for him when nukes are fake with no reasoning given, showing his previous reasons are complete bogus.
On March 14 2013 05:27 Acrofales wrote:
So... ok.
##vote Foolishness
Sloosh wasted a couple of hours, but comes out looking townier and Xfire also looking townier, so I'll call it a win.
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Forgot to add Dandel to the possible scum.
Oats is likely just bad townie.
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Funny boy.not.
On March 14 2013 21:27 Vivax wrote:
Acro, yamato, marv are obviscum
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Why don't you tell me why all on the yamato wagon were town instead (Cora likely town) and thus, all mafia were on Bugs/Crossfire/me/something else than yamato?
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On March 14 2013 21:50 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 21:49 Vivax wrote:
Why don't you tell me why all on the yamato wagon were town instead (Cora likely town) and thus, all mafia were on Bugs/Crossfire/me/something else than yamato? Refusal to share reads noted.
You can bank on bad towns for playing like this, same as in our last game where you were mafia and I wanted to policy lynch you D1.
Too bad you actually suck, but luckily for you your opponents suck even more.
Anyway I'll go watch some paralympics from the last years.
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Marv you quote the same argument against SlOosh I quoted against Acro.
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Marv you quote the same argument against SlOosh I quoted against Acro. Just that acro went against his own reasons while SlOosh mentions two different arguments for lynching two different people.
Acro says: I think Ver is more likely scum and if the nuke is real we lynch Foolish, if it's fake we lynch Foolish tomorrow.
The nuke isn't real and he still goes against Foolish and doesn't push for a Ver lynch at all.
SlOosh says: I want to lynch marv first cause, then I want to lynch yamato first cause. All you mention are loud considerations to prefer one choice over the other which I have done plenty of times myself and is perfectly normal even for townies to do.
What acro did is not what townies usually do.
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On March 14 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Well that's sad :| but would have been pretty strong so makes sense. Well played actually.
1. If Foolish was scum he would have shot marv since he's more threatening than yamato if he was town.So he shot a genuine scumread and it makes sense for him to shoot like that with his fail vig story (when no one really asked why he nuked yamato so promptly he still explained it)
2. If I was scum or town in danger of being lynched I would have shot...well marv, so it isn't really alignment indicative for me.
3. And Crossfire..Well he shot a guy who was main lynch candidate who's dangerous for scum when he's town and just had done something that confirmed him as town (1). Also he shot without reading the thread and testing for reactions like I did.
Anyway lynch yamato, crossfire or marv today the latter might be hard cause he has so many fanboys, some of them might just be scum though.
So basically, Foolish is asking for a crossfire lynch. And marv, instead of agreeing with Foolish on lynching their common scumread Crossfire (given that - If crossfire flips scum then marv shouldn't doubt Foolish anymore, which is the wisest choice), says we should only consider marv and Foolish for lynch.
Would you do this as town?
Try to argue against this marv, you can't.
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Why didn't Foolish nuke the DT pushing him to the gallows if he was scum?
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