Personality Mafia 2 - Page 12

On March 13 2013 00:49 Vivax wrote:


Your role is more anti-town than anything. Already using it so early in the day on a player looking so bad at the time is scummy and only convenient for you.

You were willing to bet a townie life against a check that no one would believe cause it would have been a D1 check.

If you were town you'd be seriously stupid, but I know you aren't. Neither of both.

On March 13 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote:
Had VE as scumread before the shot, but didn't shoot him.





Proof that yamato is scum



Yamato announces that the problem will be solved when he doesn't know if he gets a check back or Kurumi dies.
Yamato knew Kurumi would die and says he doesn't have to announce the shot in the thread but claimed it on his own - despite not knowing if he'll get a check back he says that "The problem will be solved".

The actual announcement comes later


His reaction after knowing Kurumi would die as town:

On March 13 2013 01:08 Vivax wrote:
Now, aside from the fact that yamato didn't shoot his "scumread", he didn't play as if he expected to get a check back on Kurumi no, he posted as if he knew he would get shot.

What if he had the chance to get a check back from Kurumi (like he should believe), why announce something beforehand when you don't know the outcome?

Let's assume he expected to get a red check back on Kurumi, would he announce it in the thread or wait for the outcome and only claim the shot if he hit green? In case he hit red he could simply push Kurumi or claim the check afterwards. In case of green he could have stayed silent or claimed it or whatever he wanted to, but he chose the stupid way, why? Explanation: For his role to work he had to play the shot like MZ played it.

He had to announce that he would shoot someone in the thread for his role to work, but refuses to admit it. Every other explanation doesn't make sense unless he's a massive derp.

On March 13 2013 01:29 Vivax wrote:


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He chose to shoot Kurumi for martyring over his "scumread" VE in the arc of 13 minutes.



Bugs was martyring, too but he pumps out a 5 guy list instead of going for Bugs who does the same as Kurumi. Kurumi martyring is a good enough reason to shoot him but Bugs doing that isn't a good enough reason to lynch him over 4 others?

Inconsistent reasons, terrible role usage, indications of him knowing Kurumi's flip beforehand ( + general subjective scumminess).

On March 13 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote:
OK this is going to be a bit of a ramble and possibly unstructured. This corresponds to how I feel about the game. I guess it's only night 1 but i'm less certain on so many people than I like.

I'm going to start with the wishy washy (my thoughts that is, not how they've played necessarily) middle.

risk, prplhz, BC, Stutters, slOosh, Mocsta, Ver (ugh), Acrofales, supersoft.

ok quick rundown.

I like risk when he's around, it feels like town risk. But he's not around enough, and that's more mafia risk.

prplhz. super lurky, although a decent case on BC. Some posts feel like town prplhz, but the lurkiness, oh the lurkiness. I'm banking on his weird anger towards me being genuine, but i'm not sure.

BC. Weird roleplaying thing that he's trying to excuse how he's playing. I don't like it. I don't like how he said I outright lied about him, when it clearly wasn't the case, as per what VE and I wrote. I'm pretty clearly town to most people reading the thread properly, BC has a brain, so I should be pretty clearly town to him too. Instead he's baselessly attacking me. Not good. But I don't think he should be a focus tomorrow.

Stutters - super lurky and bad, called out, did some stuff, disappeared. Don't know what to make of him. his contributions seemed ok when he stopped RPing. bleh.

slOosh. absent. bad. maybe his push on yamato is genuine. maybe his role thing up there is genuine. wait and see. could well be mafia, but could still be town.

Mocsta. Snipey and unhelpful, but isn't shitting up the thread. don't know where i stand with him.

Ver. Really absent. Maybe he should be in somewhat scummy. I just don't know. confuses the fuck out of me.

Acrofales. wasn't sure what he has been trying to achieve so far this game. but reads post that he just made looks decent at first glance. i expect him to be stepping it up and helping day 2 if he's town.

supersoft, not getting mafia vibes. but really, really unproductive, which is unlike supersoft. bleh.

[u]People I'm town on to varying degrees

Hiro. Too lurky I guess, but his posts feel genuine when he makes them. I'm not sure, but I'm kinda leaning town here. I don't see why he should be a focus tomorrow at all.

VE. Has backed me up, whether on purpose or not, on several occasions. So he's seeing the game the way i am. I hope to god he's town. I think he's town, no reason at all not to at this stage.

Dandel. His play really does feel nothing like British II that he just came out of as mafia. He's more helpful and productive, even if still trolly, but he'll always be that way. I liked his catch on Acro's sheeping at the end of day 1, which may or may not mean anything.

austin. seems to be thinking about the game and caring about the game, engaging people in conversation. I have no real reason to think austin is mafia at this point.

Oatsmaster. Suspicious of a lot of people, that's how he plays town. He is always all over the place, he asks stupid questions, and apparently contradicts himself quite a bit. this doesn't make him mafia. Oats plays SCARED as mafia. Posts like these are not scared:



strongandbig - I think he's probably town. I know recently he's had a massive motivation problem with mafia in general, and I think if he rolled mafia this game he'd just have completely given up. Lurkier than I like but is actually providing some contributions and points when he's around.

iamp - posting less than I like, but some posts give me a warm and fuzzy vibe. don't see a reason to look at him right now. especially as he made me a giggle. good towntell ;D

Promethelax - despite posting in limericks, seems to have a clear plan and idea to his play. he was all over the shop as mafia in LX, his limerick posts actually make more sense than his awful posts here. MAYBE he's hiding behind it? but i don't think so right now.

yamato - his posting today makes me feel better about him. i still think he's town, i'm not certain, but I don't want to lynch him right now either.

More interesting things
[b]Vivax!

Not actually certain Vivax is mafia at all. Here's the thing about Vivax. He's absolutely batshit insane. This is usually a pretty solid town tell for Vivax. However there are a few specific things that make me worry about using this broadbrush read.

1) a really weird slight town read on Crossfire
2) calling Foolishness town and attacking me, despite having not read either filter and missing TWO things in Foolishness' under one page filter
3) asking me to ragequit like in LVIII. He knows I was town there, and he also probably knows that I only genuinely really rage when I'm town. I don't like this at all.

So Vivax, I don't know.

Crossfire

Nothing in his filter says town. At all. The reason we didn't lynch him is because he conveninently showed up as the votes were piling on him, and was like "oh lol is it deadline lol daylights saving time" and it seemed kinda genuine. What the fuck has he done with this reprieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Looks like mafia.

Corazon

I think he's mafia. I'm running out of time so I can't quote posts, but his push on yamato feels really forced. If I'm dead, go read back through his filter. Look at how he talks about his push on yamato. It continuously reads that he's going to keep pushing yamato until he doesn't have to anymore. He refuses to do anything else, but he basically says "yeah I'm just going to tunnel yamato". He's not active or engaged with anything else. When yamato was in the thread earlier talking with austin, corazon came back to the thread to tunnel yamato some more, and disappeared, deciding not to take the time to make conversation with his main scumread. Looks like mafia.

Foolishness

Apparently he's short of time because he's doing jack shit. He got caught in a lie by saying that he always finds me scummy, even though that's impossible, everything he said about that, our games together, my smurf game, has been disproved. He's kinda around but not doing anything. I'm quoting this post for length



He had the time to make a post like this, but not do anything more than skim the thread for a read he'd later recant? Why not spend that fucking time writing the post doing something useful? This fucking REEKS of mafia making some kinda post to make it look like they're doing something. But he wasn't.

I've run out of time. This will have to do.

On March 14 2013 08:33 Acrofales wrote:


Okay. Why have you stopped thinking Dandel Ion is scum? Why have you stopped thinking Ver is scum? Why is SnB scum?

The point of that post wasn't to get a discussion going WITH you, but ABOUT you. The way you've been yelling and carrying on in this game made me think it was pointless to try to discuss things with you. But I'll give it a go if you've calmed down.