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DoctorHelvetica
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I remember RebirthofLegend used to do this kind of thing all the time whether he was town or scum which was a shame because he was a great scum hunter youngminii used to flip his lid so bad if he ever got even FoS'd that the instant I FoS'd him in any game he would start pushing me and yelling at me in the thread and even shot me instantly as a dayvig the second I said he was suspicious lol some people just can't be reasoned with | ||
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The atmosphere in this game is abysmal | ||
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Why? Your entire case is based solely on a point that I proved wrong. Any townie would rescind the case, as I've done many times when the lynchpin of my case ended up being a misunderstanding like with JJ and other people | ||
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On March 02 2013 16:04 geript wrote: Hey Doc, how many town reads have you given out? I don't know, unlike other players I don't feel compelled to make lists | ||
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On March 02 2013 16:46 geript wrote: I already said that I previously liked a number of your previous posts. I was back and forth on you. Not anymore. When people don't like my initial post, I went back re-read. Though more and started working on making it better while tabling it to look at other players. I don't mind waiting as I'm generally quite patient. Am I not allowed to be wrong? I didn't agree with it in my read. Isn't this the point that I brought up? Funny, I bring it up AND point out that it made me look scummy. Reasonable to as scum give you the bullets to shoot at me? When there's a safety play at IMPs in bridge, only an idiot doesn't make it. MPs is different, but at IMPs you make the damn safety play as the risk of gaining 1 IMP at the cost of 11 IMPs just isn't worth it. That's my take on it at least. Perfect town victory doesn't matter and doesn't happen. With a clear safety play available, I made the attempt at it. You've admitted to being back and forth to some extent on things in your head... Am I not allowed to be mixed in opinion? So now I'm guilty for pushing people I'm suspicious of or pushing my suspicions so that other people see them? What's wrong with that? So me attacking VE for my opinions of him isn't trying to create an argument? WIFOM either way. While I agree that (verbally) attacking or making a case against someone who you intend to kill isn't bad scum play, it doesn't make it great scum play either. You're right. It couldn't. You're scum. Also, if you're allowed to misread the thread, then I can do it too. Especially when I got to read the thread around 9, 2, 6, 8 and now. 1. You're guilty for pushing suspicions on me instead of WoS who you originally thought was scum. A townie has no reason to spend effort spreading doubt on a null read while neglecting to push his own scum target. 2. You end this post admitting you think I'm scum on the basis that I lied with the sole intention of stealing pardoner. I'm glad you see now that no townie would ever do this. However, you not coming to this conclusion earlier and only finally FoSing me on a scumslip that didn't actually exist is highly suspect. Now you seem more confident then ever that I'm scum even though I've disproven the single point that made you accuse me in the first place! This suggests to me that you were just waiting for the right thing to use to attack me, like it was a forgone conclusion. | ||
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I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. lolhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395714&user=298120¤tpage=3 Every post is long, the reasoning is clear, no snide behavior, no attitude, focused on making his logic clear and pressuring his scum case when he presents is. Once his case rolls out, he spents the rest of his filter arguing it. The behavior in this filter and in this game now are so different I can't believe they are the same alignment. He actually plays pretty well in this newbie game as far as his approach and everything is concerned. On February 12 2013 10:16 geript wrote: Could you please explain this more to me? I feel like I'm missing something. Town Geript responding to pressure Geript in this game responding to pressure: "lol go ahead doc, im waiting, guess i might as well vote myself in the meantime" On February 12 2013 04:57 geript wrote: First thing to realize is that was a post I had typed up as of Cora's following post on p21. I wanted to reread and edit it after getting up to make sure I was making sense and posting effectively. + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2013 14:46 cDgCorazon wrote: ##Vote: Warbaby Congratulations WB, it's been 5 hours and I already think you are scum. I'm going to break this down into a few points: 1. Your "I'm not Mafia rofl" claim. The biggest problem is that you have claimed town within the first 4 hours. You not only claimed town, but you're basically waving a giant sign that says "HEY LOOK EVERYONE, I'M TOWN". The nature of your claim is ridiculous, almost too much. Examples: You're coming on way too strong with this claim for me to believe it. 2. Continuing to play the victim from the mislynch in NMM 36. Examples: It's another part in trying to associate yourself too hard with being townie. You need to get it through your head that this isn't XXXVI anymore. We're all sorry for the mislynch last game, but you need to come in here and forget about it. It's a whole different game with different players. Stop trying to stay in the past. 3. Your lack of scumhunting. Goes without saying, you've done none of it yet. All the jabs you made at Mocsta have been points that myself and other people have discussed to death already. Bring something new to the table. 4. Trying to change the subject when the pressure is on you. This is the scummiest part. If you are town, you should be trying to prove that your claim is true, and not kill discussion right when it starts to pick up. For these reasons, you are getting my vote for the time being. If you are really town, you should have no trouble proving your innocence. 1. I don't have great reasons that I can point to for warbaby being town. My read is/was that he's just a VT/veterant that was trying to pull an attack his way. As his other posts have made him a more reasonable sounding lynch/mislynch target for which a case could be made against, I think he negated the attack pull. If you want a more concrete case/reasons, then I'm sorry I can't oblige there. 2. I disagree fully. Take for example the following: + Show Spoiler + On February 12 2013 00:52 Mocsta wrote: Guys im going to bed. zarepath, I am not sure if the start of your post was addressed to me? If so, I had mandalor as null read; he said a few things but until he follows through its all NON-alignment indicative. btw, quite a few decent points in that case; I think some are educated assumptions, and others are really contradictory to ideal town play. Will wait and see what wave has to say for himself before proceeding further. Is there any actual content in this post? This post specifically states that he his posting simply for the sake of posting. "A few decent points..." Ok, fine which ones and why; expand the case. "Some educated assumptions..." = "adlkjfa;ldhfaldha;fl. "Others are really contradictory ideal town play..." then point it out. "Will wait and see..." sounds more like bandwagoning or sheeping. Considering his other activity (jumping on warbaby early after my opening attempt and again after following Cora's post) to willfully follow instead of lead, he looks far more like scum than actually and actively dig/hunt for his own ideas or espouse his own concepts. But when it looks like he's been trying to run for mayor, to switch gears into following others lead instead of espousing his own looks suspicious to me. 3. I think there's enough content in this post and the previous to realize that I'm not just making ad homenim attacks. ##vote mocsta @sn0_man What do you think are Mocsta's town contributions? What are the 'scummy things' Mocsta has done that you think I'm avoiding? Look at how he explains his thoughts clearly in several paragraphs before voting instead of off of a throwaway sentence like "oh...that could be a scumslip" and he has a genuine interest in coming to an understanding/agreement with other players in the game lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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(if geript is a hatter trying to get himself lynched to herobomb scum then i applaud him) but vigis and hatters need to start wasting the trash in this game macho man, testsubject893, glurio, randombum, obviousone, hassybaby, restraining order, grush57 I'd bet 100 ESPORTS dollars there are about 2-3 scum in there and another 1 in here: layabout, aquanim, chezinu Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town the only scenario in which JJ could be lying is one in which JJ and Vivax are both scum if I'm actually thinking clearly right now | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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or testsubject/geript just blow this game up and let's see what we have on day 3 | ||
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On March 03 2013 02:01 TestSubject893 wrote: I think it was WF. Is that enough for you to want to kill him? Hm, I had a pretty town read for him on most of this game. It makes me want to read his filter really closely when I come back from work today. | ||
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