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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:27 GMT
#1806
Finally holy crap
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2013-02-19 18:31:45
February 19 2013 18:31 GMT
#1812
I still hate you guys for shooting austin
It was the plan of marv the mafia traitor ;_;

I guess it was for the greater good though...

Anyways, I'm such a pro scum player i convinced everybody I was town on 3v3 fuck yeah /sarcasm
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:32 GMT
#1814
How the hell was Dandel's ability allowed
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:33 GMT
#1815
Like seriously

30 points to have a night KP? And he gains like 10000 points if people even as slightly mention his name or quote him?
wtf
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:36 GMT
#1822
On February 20 2013 03:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:31 gonzaw wrote:
I still hate you guys for shooting austin
It was the plan of marv the mafia traitor ;_;

I guess it was for the greater good though...

Anyways, I'm such a pro scum player i convinced everybody I was town on 3v3 fuck yeah /sarcasm


Not me, your reactions in the chat to my questions made me think you were pretty scummy lol.
But couldn't tell you you're scum in your face, it gives you reason to act indignant and stop talking.


I was "town" enough for you to mason me in the first place and Dandel to give me a "he's like confirmed town" read at the end of N3...

......you 2 were actually joking right? Please tell me you were
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:39 GMT
#1827
Oh wait Keirathi was playing this game too lol I forgot

I forgot to include him in my "who made whose role" calculations I think
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:43 GMT
#1836
On February 20 2013 03:40 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, I thought you were town when I chose you as mason, but as you notice from my bluff I didn't trust you in the chat after talking a little.

I was curious to see how crossfire would react fearing that you would die with me.

And anyway, picking mafia as first officer shows you're mafia if I get NKd, so it wouldn't have turned out badly under other circumstances.


Why the hell did you pick me O_o
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:48 GMT
#1839
On February 20 2013 03:45 Vivax wrote:
Just look at whom I called scum before Dandel shot marv, that's why.


I mean why did you pick me as your first officer
You have to do that in D1 right?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:49 GMT
#1841
Oh right

I blame Hassy then
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:50 GMT
#1842
On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though.

Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use.

Sry guys. I blame my role creator.

My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2.


Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull.

You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100.

At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it.


Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost).

Only got energy with the day post.

Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers.


Hey dude, I was a shitty delayed standard vig if it makes you feel any better
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:53 GMT
#1846
Hey austin, did you buy any ability at night? Or did you just hoard JP points?

Also Grey, what are the "hidden" bonus JP austin could have gotten? I assume you changed the ones I knew right?
(if it's in the spreadsheet I can't see it, for some reason my browser skips cell 12 which is austin's one lol)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:55 GMT
#1847
Also Grey why didn't you tell austin about "Nice Post Restriction 2!" when D1 ended?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:57 GMT
#1849
Well supposedly Grey should have "balanced" the role if indeed the abilities were too expensive >_>

You could have Roleblocked everybody that had a prime number of posts though, that would have been fun! (and you had the JP to do that N1 I think)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:01:17
February 19 2013 19:00 GMT
#1850
Paralyze = 100 JP
Postcount = 250 JP
5 = 200 JP

You started with 500 JP, plus 100 for living one cycle, plus 50 for "Nice post restriction!", making it 650 JP

100+250+200= 550 JP

You had enough JP to do that austin!
If you chose "Visits" (150 JP ) instead of "Post count" (250 JP) it would have been 100 JP cheaper as well

EDIT: You could have also done Postcount+Prime+Paralyze that costs exactly 650 JP which is what you had.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:04 GMT
#1852
Yeah you were supposed to gain JP at the end of every cycle
I even told Grey how to do it:

Original Message From gonzaw:
Role Name: The Calculator
Target: austin

Role PM:
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, you are the Calculator!
You somehow escaped from the Final Fantasy Tactics world, and appeared in this desolate land. You must do anything in your power to survive....and kill those in your way.

You can use JP (Job Points) to buy abilities and use them.
You start with 500 JP, and can buy any ability at any time by PMing the host
"##Buy: [name of ability]", as long as you have enough JP to do so

Your ability works like this though:
There are several "Action Abilities", that perform actions on certain targets. However, the way you decide who to target is special. You can't target players directly; instead, you choose an algorithm that determines the targets of your ability.
There are 2 algorithms you must choose to do so: "Base" algorithms and "Targeting" algorithms.
Base algorithms: It's an attribute about each player that will be taken into account when targeting. It should be numerical.
Targeting algorithms: Determines which of those attributes will determine your target, using arithmetics.
If the targeting algorithm of your choice is "5", then this means that you will target every player in the game whose numerical attribute (Base algorithm) is a multiple of 5. Same if you choose "3" or "4" or "Prime".
You can use only 1 action ability each night. To use so, you must PM the host:
##[Base algorithm]-[Targetting algorithm]: [Action ability]

For example: "##Postcount-Prime: Cure", which will cure every player whose postcount is a prime number.
You can also buy Support Abilities. These abilities are passive and are applied to you as soon as you buy them.

You can also gain JP by doing special things throughout the game.
There are also "special" ways you can gain JP, which won't be disclosed, so try to do crazy things and see if you can gain more JP!
Once you fulfilled a way to gain JP, the host will report to you how much you won and how at the end of the cycle you've done so.
If you find out these "special" ways to get JP, you can get Bonus JP depending on how many different ways you have found.

You can gain JP in these ways:
+ Show Spoiler [Gain JP] +

Living:
You gain JP by each cycle you are still alive
Gain: 100 JP

Early Lynch Vote:
You gain JP if you are between the first 5 voters (unvoting resets the voting queue) of a lynch
Gain: 150 JP

Focus:
You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on a single player
Gain: 100 JP

Mass-targetting:
You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on EVERYBODY
Gain: 300 JP

Nice post restriction!:
You gain JP if you manage to include a math related term or phrase in at least 10 posts in a cycle
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 50 JP



Bonus JP:
+ Show Spoiler [Bonus JP] +
JP Bonus:
You gain bonus JP as you do more of these "hidden" ways to obtain JP
It is accumulative
Do 3 of them: 50 JP
Do 4 of them: 100 JP
Do 5 of then: 200 JP
Do 6 of them: 300 JP
Do ALL of them: 500 JP


Here follows what Arithmetic abilities you can get:

Targeting Algorithms:
+ Show Spoiler [Targeting Algorithms] +

Prime:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a prime number
Cost: 300 JP

5:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 5
Cost: 200 JP

4:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 4
Cost: 400 JP

3:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 3
Cost: 600 JP


Base Algorithms:
+ Show Spoiler [Base Algorithms] +

Visits:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of visitors (i.e how many people visit him) that night.
Cost: 150 JP

Post Count:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's Post Count
Applies to the previous Day cycle
Cost: 250 JP

Post time average:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's post time average
Applies to the previous Day cycle. It takes the average of the posting time of a player, and takes the hour from it
Cost: 300 JP

Voting:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of votes (he has done) this game.
Unvoting and voting the same player counts as a new vote, as does unvoting and voting a new player.
Cost: 400 JP

Username length:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's username length
Cost: 700 JP


These are the Support abilities you can get:
+ Show Spoiler [Support Abilities] +

Doublecast:
Allows you to perform 2 action abilities on each night
Cost: 1500 JP

Day Calculator:
Allows you to perform an action ability in each day cycle as well as at a night cycle
Every action ability will change accordingly if it's used in a Day cycle
Cost: 1000 JP

Gained JP up:
Gains 50% more JP for each action that nets you JP
Cost: 500 JP



These are the Action Abilities you can get:
+ Show Spoiler [Action Abilities] +

Cure:
Cures target for 0.5 HP
If a target is cured for 1 HP, then it needs 1 more KP to be killed
Cost: 400 JP

Flare:
Desl 0.5 KP to target
Cost: 900 JP

Poison:
Gives target 1 poison counter every phase. Deals 0.5 KP to him after 3 counters have expired.
Target will be notified about being poisoned.
The counter will expire in the exact cycle it was cast 3 phases from now
Cost: 150 JP

Paralyze:
Prevents target from doing any action that night (i.e Roleblock)
Cost: 100 JP

Slow:
The target will be slowed, therefore any night action he does this cycle will resolve in the next one
Cost: 150 JP

Reflect:
Actions done on the target (that same night) will be done on the actor instead
Cost: 500 JP

Persuade:
Target has 1 more vote in the next Day cycle
Cost: 200 JP

Threaten:
Target can't vote in the next Day cycle
Cost: 300 JP

Protect:
Protects the target from 1 KP
Cost: 800 JP


Host info:
+ Show Spoiler [Host info] +


1)There are 7 "hidden" ways to get JP, these are the ones I thought of:
+ Show Spoiler [Hidden JP] +
Vote changing:
You gain JP if you change your vote more than 3 times in a day cycle
Gain: 150 JP


Wtf you doing mate!?:
You gain JP if you target yourself with a harmful ability
Gain: 200 JP


Near-death experience:
You gain JP if at any point in a day cycle you gain more than half the votes, but don't end up getting lynched
Only in Lynch cycles
Gain: 400 JP


Popular kid:
You gain JP if more than 2 players visit you at night on a single night.
Gain: 250 JP


Pathological Liar:
You gain JP if you lie about your role in any way when you claim (hiding information is not considered lying)
Can be used only once
Gain: 100 JP


Pretty Colors!:
You gain JP if you use the bolded green, bolded red, and bolded blue colors in a post of yours at least once each
Gain: 75 JP


ANGRY CALCULATOR SMASH!:
You gain JP if you make a post only in caps-lock that's longer than 1 line.
"Nice post restriction 2!" doesn't count for this
Gain: 25 JP


2)About Base Algorithms:
Most Base algorithms refer to the previous cycle, so the player can plan what to do with fixed numbers that aren't constantly changing that cycle.
Those are:
  • Postcount
  • Post time average

More info about the Base algorithms:
Voting:
Takes into account all votes a player made in the game. Different votes are considered if there is a corresponding unvote, or if the game mechanic allows it. If it's done in the Day cycle (with the use of the "Day Calculator" ability), then it takes into account current votes as well
Post count:
Takes into account the number of posts that player made in the game alone (not total post count)
Visits:
Takes into account the number of people visiting that player in the same cycle. If it's used in the Day, then it takes into account the current visits he had as well

3)Sequence of "Ways to gain JP":
Firstly, the guy should be shown the ways from his role PM.
Once he does "Nice post restriction!", then he unlocks "Nice post restriction 2!", and it must be shown to him:

Nice post restriction 2!:
You gain JP if you manage to make a post with only the words "YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE INCORRECT!" in it, in a cycle.
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 100 JP


Once he does "Nice post restriction 2!", then he unlocks "Nice post restriction 3!", and it must be shown to him:

Nice post restriction 3!:
You gain JP if you manage to include the name of every single ability in posts of yours in a cycle.
This includes abilities you haven't bought yet as well.
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 200 JP


Once he has done all the "visible" ways to gain JP, he unlocks the "ultimate" way to gain JP:

ULTIMATE JP POWER!:
This is the ultimate way to gain JP. You gain JP when in a cycle, you are the first one to place a vote on someone that ends up lynched, that player has more than 75% of the votes from other players, and nobody else is voting you.
Can only be used once
Gain: 500 JP


4)About the "hidden" ways to get JP:
No matter which ones you choose yourself, they can only be done once per cycle. You can make them one-shot (thus can only be done once in the game), or not, but at the very least they can be done once per cycle only (so he can't abuse "easy" ones).

This means that if he "fulfills" it twice in the same cycle for instance, he only gets a reward as if he had done 1.

5)Bonus points:
Once the player does one of the "hidden" ways to gain JP, then it counts as 1 for the Bonus JP section. If he does the same one again in a next cycle, it doesn't count as a new one. The Bonus JP section only relates to "different" ways.

6)When reporting new JP:
At the end of a cycle, if the player is still alive, you should tell him how much JP he got from the "ways to gain JP".
You should tell him how much JP he got from each "way" he fulfilled, but also tell him the name of the way that gave him JP.
This includes the "hidden" ways.
For example:
Pathological Liar: You got 100 JP!
Living: You got 100 JP!
Total JP Gained this cycle: 200 JP
Total JP: [total number of JP that player has at the moment]



gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:08:42
February 19 2013 19:08 GMT
#1854
No, a phase is day/night, a cycle is day or night separately

Wouldn't make sense to not know how much JP you gained on D1 before deciding to buy abilities to use at N1.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:10 GMT
#1856
Ehm....Grey did know that....right? >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:12:04
February 19 2013 19:11 GMT
#1857
On February 20 2013 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:08 gonzaw wrote:
No, a phase is day/night, a cycle is day or night separately

Wouldn't make sense to not know how much JP you gained on D1 before deciding to buy abilities to use at N1.

No, a cycle is both day and night phases.


Then what is "Day"? What is "Night"?
They are cycles.
Day cycle
Night cycle

D1 plus N1 makes "Phase 1", or "Day/Night 1".

No matter what it actually means, it's clear in the notes I posted what I meant with those terms

EDIT: Wasn't another role that used the same "phase" phrase as well? Vivax's role I think?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:13:59
February 19 2013 19:13 GMT
#1858
Here:
Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost).


EDIT: jcarl did indeed gain 25 energy per phase as it was posted there (he got energy with the day post only)
So Grey did take this meaning of phase/cycle into account then
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:15 GMT
#1860
Seems I had the wrong definition of that since I've started playing then :/
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