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On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote: @syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off. I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative. | ||
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WeWinMafia if you are town, you should claim your identity because some of what I said above is only applicable if you are who I think you are. | ||
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On February 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote: I've never seen syllo and sandro in the game at the same time, yet I'm supposed to know they're all buddy buddy all the time? Zess being stupid with that vote. Why are you trying to accuse me over questioning syllo's intentions? What did you think about the post of mine you asked risk about? | ||
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On February 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote: At first I thought it weird, because I saw you as attempting to get sandro's read while giving nothing from yourself. There are two explanations, one that you're mafia and trying to buddy strong town Sandro, or two that you're town trying to get a read on him. I asked because it's still weird if you're town to pick Sandro, but knowing now that you guys do it all the time it makes more sense. But you did exactly the same thing when you asked risk a question. Why did you choose risk? Would it have been weird if you had asked Sandro? | ||
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On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote: Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit. Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? This post seems off; do you think marv and risk are town? What is your current read on Zess? | ||
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On February 15 2013 07:03 sandroba wrote: I'm reading this thread constantly yet I find no will whatsoever to comment on anything. Toad and Zes are spamming the thread and producing no info whatsoever, marv seems content to comment without actually moving things alone and syllo has yet to come here and complain I'm not posting enough and has been pretty inactive himself. For now I'm set on lynching ObviousOne, because he is lurking the most and I have no background on him or Coagulation who I've yet to see do anything relevant in any game I played with him (also because I enjoy lynching jackal, so his offspring will have to do in his absence). I never really have a problem with you not posting enough, but rather with what you post when you do, and certainly not when am not finding anything worth commenting on. Content-wise I've so far either agreed with everything you have said or found your reads consistent with what I would expect. This game doesn't have enough content producers and has a bunch of people who rarely post enough to get a good read of them, which is why I wouldn't mind lynching someone like ObviousOne. However, looking at the very little he has posted so far, I'm not confident that he will flip mafia. In his newbie games he has been much more useful than he has so far been in this game, but it's still difficult to believe this is how he would post as mafia; he isn't even trying to fake content, but rather seems proud about the lack of it. | ||
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Marvel do you actually find hiropro's yamato vote and the later justification suspicious? Do you have a read on yamato? | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:00 sandroba wrote: @marv I really don't buy that you are satisfied with coag's answer and think he is town based on that little. I don't care if you played 50 games with him, are you really that sure his posting so far could only be done if he was town, so far as to endorse him not posting anymore? It smells very fishy to me. @syllo dude, I'm starting to think you are scum. It would be a shame to be wrong, but I really can't help it. I'm not doing shit so far and neither is marv, or anybody really. I would have expected you to start pressuring people and start posting a lot more way before this thread reached this point of inactivity. I'd like to know which players right now you think have a good chance of being town. You are right, I should be doing more, but I'm not. Fortunately it has nothing to do with alignment and everything to do with my uncertainty and the fact I don't think there is much if any useful (in the sense I can do something with it) content so far. How about you stick around and we do something because as it is I'm not motivated enough to push this town alone towards something useful. It's in particular difficult with a lot of players just being non-entities and making it less appealing to go after people who are actually here. I agree with you on marv, I'm not happy with how he is playing so far. For instance the post where he was "hoping to god" that we aren't both mafia looked suspicious to me, because I think he is fairly confident in his capacity to read us and neither of us is known for strong mafia play. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:10 sandroba wrote: Alright I'll settle on lynching toad then. Does anyone have any compeling reason to believe the dude is town? His conversations with marvel seem somewhat genuine, in that if marvel is mafia, toad is slightly less likely to be. I'm up for lynching him though, due to what I said earlier and him posting quite a bit without the content being in any way useful. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:19 sandroba wrote: Btw yamato wagon, despite meeting very little resistance, could very well be right too, he is doing very little compared to what I've seen from him in his past town games. @Yamato if you are town this game you need to step up, because from the game we played together I know you can be way more useful than this. I still don't like this post by him and the longer post in which he explains it and some other things seems overdone. On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote: Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit. Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? Another thing that makes Yamato a compelling lynch are his interactions with Marv. Marv questioned him a bit after I called yamato out for this post, but it was pretty weak and he didn't go anywhere with it. He also seemed to jump on anyone who voted yamato. I may be overreading because that would be a rather audacious mafia strategy, but I think Marvel should have been suspicious of yamato at that stage. Yet he seemed more worried about the people voting for him, in a way that looked exaggerated to me. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote: Please provide evidence for all of this. Because it's not how I recall anything happening at all. You were hostile towards Vivax and Hiropro for their yamato votes. It may be just a coincidence and more to do with their lack of justification but I think vivax looked much better than yamato at the time, which is why I expected you to be more interested in pressuring yamato more. Anyway, it's not particularly relevant today as I'm not willing to lynch or even push you today and overall the evidence is quite tenuous. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794746 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794796 | ||
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On February 16 2013 01:04 sandroba wrote: @syllo any thoughts on hopeless? Do you think the phrase construction stuff stands and is relevant? I don't know him well and the filters don't immediately jump at me as different. He has used a bit more qualifiers than he did as town in mario, that's about all I can say so far. It may be relevant, but I'm not convinced as of now. | ||
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On February 16 2013 01:17 Mattchew wrote: i think that artanis is asking a lot of questions without drawing a ton of actual conclusions. He is also commenting a lot on the general play of individuals and the overal game instead of focusing on what I would consider scum hunting. He is blending in really well IMO. Marv, syllo and Sandroba what do you think of this? Artanis seems to be following the thread pretty closely and has been quite aggressive/assertive and confident (See e.g. this post). I don't understand how you could characterize his filter as "blending in very well"; he voiced out several suspicions and has been willing to reconsider people based on new evidence (he was suspicious of risk.nuke and then changed his mind). I've absolutely no reason to consider him a good lynch candidate for today. | ||
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On February 15 2013 04:12 yamato77 wrote: Hey I'm supersoft and I'm going to spam away two pages of the thread talking about masons and strange german McDonald's menu items Totes town tho ##Vote Zessionar Can you find another instance of you being concerned about spamming? What do you think he was trying to spam away? | ||
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On February 16 2013 03:35 grush57 wrote: Hooray halfday at school! Zess makes lists. The one super guide said scum makes lists. Plus, the fact that he is scum tells me he is a good lynch. ##Unvote ##Vote: Zessionar Any thoughts on yamato or wewinmafia? | ||
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On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote: Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM? I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it. The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in". The second one was something about some guy being too serious. The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end. were you mafia or town in that game? What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you not think that he is supersoft? | ||
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On February 16 2013 04:17 Toadesstern wrote: did you think hopeless is a good choice? I agree we should be lynching yamato today but I was really confused when I saw Marv say he thinks we should be lynching hopeless yesterday saying he'll explain today. I almost suspected some kind of bullshit "ha just kidding to see who would jump on the train with no reasoning" move. I'm just not agreeing with an awful lot he's saying this game, which is odd considering that we came to the exact same conclusions last time we played together. No, I did not think he was a good lynch and do not think he is one now. His post about someone not actually RNGing their "rng" vote is probably the only thing I find suspicious about his play so far, that seemed opportunistic. | ||
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No, I've voiced some suspicions about his play so far, but I'm not lynching him either today and even if I wanted to, it's unlikely to happen with extended majority lynch. If he is mafia, it will be easier to tell later and if not, he is going to get shot at some point. | ||
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On February 16 2013 04:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning. Who would your choice then be, still Wewinmafia/Toad? A lot of people have been pushing Supersoft lynch as well and he is in fact currently the vote leader. | ||
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On February 16 2013 04:37 Toadesstern wrote: syllo mind voting yamato? You just came to the conclusion that Yamato is the only guy we should be lynching today and I don't see your vote on him. ##vote Yamato | ||
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On February 16 2013 03:49 Vivax wrote: Would be kinda weird for scum Zess to push marv when he's pressuring me. But do you still want to lynch Zess? | ||
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On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote: I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself. It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points. | ||
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On February 16 2013 04:06 Keirathi wrote: WeWinMafia (1) - Artanis[XP] Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline is in roughly 4 hours. If you notice any errors in the vote count, please let me know! This is wrong, Sandro voted WeWinMafia | ||
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On February 16 2013 05:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Syllo, sandroba, why did you never elaborate on toad after I asked you to? I don't see it on your filter, what in particular do you want elaborated? | ||
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On February 16 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote: How can you say "it's a bit weird" when this was the extent of your suspicions of Toad? That's not the extent of my suspicions http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17793213 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794483 My point is mostly that if one of the people we are pushing right now is mafia, I would have expected mafia at some point make an attempt at getting Toad lynched. It's much easier and safer to push a lynch that has the support of players people often listen to. Perhaps they opted to wagon someone else. | ||
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On February 16 2013 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Tell me how my exchange with toad influenced your reads and why. Also, why did you think he was scum in the first place? Please give me something more than 'a general feel'. I didn't agree with your points about him, because Toad tends to post a lot of fluff in general and the other points are not things I use as a heuristic. His responses were fairly reasonable I guess, but since I didn't agree with your heuristics in the first place they didn't influence my read. The exchange made you look townier, but I never considered you a good lynch anyway. | ||
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On February 16 2013 05:24 marvellosity wrote: Does this not suggest that Toad could be mafia, then? Yes, that was the point. Anyway, it's an extended majority lynch and perhaps I assigned too much significance on his supersoft interactions, so I will likely be willing to move my vote to Toad if necessary, depending on how things develop. | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:41 sandroba wrote: I have to go right now. I'm debating wether to move my vote to yamato to assure a lynch, any sugestions? I don't think anyone else (besides him and maybe WWM) can be lynched today so people voting others should prob move their vote. I have like 5 min to decide =/ What do you think about Vivax? I guess 5 minutes isn't enough for this discussion. Vivax's play certainly doesn't look like LVIII or whatever, but it also doesn't look like his mafia play in that mini with wbg and palmar. | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:46 sandroba wrote: I don't have the time to look into him, but if you think that's the best place for my vote I'll do it. Be quick though. I haven't looked at him enough either, I think it's risky for you to move your vote right now though if we don't even know that we have the votes | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:13 Vivax wrote: grush, get back on the Zess lynch please. It's a bit too short-term too care about nuke imo, it's probably just going to shit up the lynch. I would lynch you over Zess, so you may want to also look at yamato and possibly toad. There are at least three people who won't be voting for zess. | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:31 Vivax wrote: I'd like to hear your own reasons for believing I'm scum. Cause I'm not. Yamato is roughly in the same category as Oo and matt for me on the activity side. His reasoning when called out looked like he pulled it out of his ass and he quit responding to people afterwards, doing a similar thing to Zess: first posting his scumreads then justifying it with something rather random, but him not being around at deadline to discuss lynches gives me reason enough to vote for him. Can't say I'm convinced though given the low information I have on him as compared to Zess. You haven't cared much about the game so far and were absent. That's about it. Meanwhile some aspects about Zess's play look a bit towny and in general I don't think Zess/super is a smart lynch today. Thus if I have to choose between the two of you, I would go with you. Anyway, we have 20 minutes left so you should be ready to move your vote when necessary. | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Or because scum saw an easy wagon on an inactive Yamato that's playing outside of his usual meta, an easy push to get away from candidates that are currently scum. That the wagon is bad to me suggests he's more likely to be town. Who is the mafia then? Zess has been the main wagon for most of the day and it still took forever for yamato wagon to go anywhere. At this point this lynch doesn't really feel like a mafia lynch either, but it's still better than killing supersoft, who isn't null. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:55 ObviousOne wrote: Can you take a picture of the options so I can pick which you eat later when you are proven wrong? So which one do you think is town, Vivax or Coag? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 17 hours to lynch yamato77 (5) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der HiroPro (2) - Coagulation, marvellosity Zessionar (2) - Artanis[XP], yamato77 marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia Coagulation (1) - grush57 Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke 4 hours to lynch Zessionar (4) - yamato77, Vivax, Hopeless1der, grush57 yamato77 (3) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia HiroPro (1) - Coagulation marvellosity (1) - Zessionar WeWinMafia (1) - Artanis[XP] Vivax (1) - marvellosity Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke 2.5 hours to lynch Zessionar (4) - yamato77, Vivax, Hopeless1der, grush57 yamato77 (4) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism WeWinMafia (3) - Artanis[XP], sandroba, marvellosity HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke 1h 15 minutes to lynch Zessionar (6) - yamato77, Vivax, grush57, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP] yamato77 (4) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism WeWinMafia (2) - sandroba, marvellosity HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Not Voting: Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, Hopeless1der 25 minutes to lynch yamato77 (7) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, marvellosity Zessionar (5) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP] HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Vivax (1) - Hopeless1der risk.nuke (1) - grush57 10 minutes to lynch yamato77 (8) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, marvellosity, Hopeless1der Zessionar (6) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanis[XP]. grush57 HiroPro (1) - Coagulation 3 minutes to lynch yamato77 (7) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, Hopeless1der Zessionar (7) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanis[XP]. grush57, marvellosity HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Final yamato77 (10) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, Hopeless1der, marvellosity, risk.nuke, Artanis[XP] Zessionar (4) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, grush57 HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Not Voting: Mattchew | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UWa2oFH.png) Did you make this image on your cellphone? | ||
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If you are town you ought to spend your time elsewhere for the time being as it's completely irrational to focus on the day 1 counterwagon to a mafia lynch, in particular with the votes this close. | ||
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On February 16 2013 21:36 Vivax wrote: I'll look at my own preferences, yours are clearly flawed. Syllo, who should I be looking into again? Use your own judgment, but obviously the people who weren't willing to vote Yamato look worse. Still, it feels like there should be at least one mafia on the yamato wagon and it's pretty unlikely for the whole mafia team to be among people who aren't even playing (grush,coag,obviousone,mattchew). I'm thinking that one of the people I'm leaning town on right now is mafia. | ||
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On February 17 2013 06:34 ObviousOne wrote: As far as grush is concerned I would expect him to be a bit more serious as town so he's leaning red to me to far. His posting style/ trolling off the bat itself isn't alignment indicative I believe he plays the same manner either way. I can give a better read on grush when I see his next case. Have you played any games with grush or is this just based on casual reading of other games of his? Can you link me to the game you used as reference for your conclusion? Do you really expect to get a better read on him when he makes his next "case"? Answer my question about Yamato. Why did you think he was town? | ||
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On February 17 2013 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote: oh, cool beans. Was that a difficult decision at all? On February 17 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Just to be clear, is it possible you handed more KP to the mafia? These questions don't appear to serve any purpose. Why are you asking them? | ||
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On February 17 2013 07:24 WeWinMafia wrote: I did that once. Game was called Arkham city and I shot 3 townies because I tried to shoot 2ndary targets for big plays instead of shooting primary targets due to reasoning like "well X is going to get lynched so I shoot Y instead" or "well X is going to get mediced by mafia if they have a medic so I shoot Y instead". Ended up shooting 3 townies in a row and the people I did NOT shoot always were mafia. I learned my lesson and just shoot dem scummy bastards no matter what :p That's not the lesson you should have learned out of that and that explanation makes no sense whatsoever | ||
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On February 17 2013 08:08 sandroba wrote: Got shot here. I hope you'll have some time today or tomorrow. I seem to have too many town reads and I'm having a difficult time deciding whom to push today. | ||
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On February 17 2013 08:14 sandroba wrote: Did anyone else get shot? 1kp seems very low. I'll prob have some time tomorrow, today maybe, I'm still deciding wether or not to go out. I'm inclined to lynch into those 3 today, any better ideas? A poisoner makes some sense instead of 2 fixed kp | ||
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On February 17 2013 19:13 ObviousOne wrote: @Zess you still have Hopeless on your suspects list? His vote switch to Yamato was just "cause the vets said so" and he seems to currently bent on Vivax who I don't see as scum right now. @Syllo did you find my response adequate? It was fine, but you still look like a more compelling target than a bunch of other people. We were headed for a no lynch, you were around and refused to move your vote. Admittedly I would expect mafia to just not post around the deadline. | ||
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On February 17 2013 19:35 Zessionar wrote: why don't we lynch marv today, syllo Because it's day 2, he has a 12-page filter, there's 3 mafia left and it's very unlikely that he will be alive in lylo if he is town. We are in a very good position and I don't like to take unnecessary risks. | ||
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On February 17 2013 10:50 marvellosity wrote: in any case, off the top of my head right now I want to lynch into Matt + OO, plus anything interesting comes up when i look around tomorrow. There's been some quite interesting interactions between people recently Which one would you prefer? Found any interesting interactions? | ||
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On February 18 2013 02:02 Mattchew wrote: syllo what do you make of vivax's vote on yamato. And his early on post directed at me Vivax/Yamato interactions are slightly suspicious. In particular the random "Oh, and Vivax is a jackass." reply from Yamato. It's difficult to distinguish if that's just due to him being mafia or because they both are. You were here around the time when wbg made the day 2 post; why did you disappear and not post anything until around 18 hours later? You specifically said you were waiting for night kills until commenting and typically players react to the day post in some way anyway. | ||
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Him jumping on the yamato wagon pretty early, then randomly switching to Zessionar only to fairly weakly unvote a bit later strikes suspicious to me. He didn't really explain why his yamato suspicions waned or why he found vivax more suspicious. His original reasons for voting yamato were still all applicable, but he didn't turn around until almost last possible moment. He also seemed to have forgotten why he found yamatos suspicious in the first place. | ||
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By the way, I've a gun and I can use it at any time. | ||
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On February 18 2013 03:13 sandroba wrote: =( syllo don't you have 2 shots? Can you shoot more than once a day? I considered lying by claiming that if I use it as a day shot I could only shoot once and hope that would keep me from being shot or RBed tonight, but I doubt that would work since Artanis already revealed that I've two bullets. In addition, I might get shot anyway or even be poisoned already. So to answer the question, I can only shoot once per cycle. | ||
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However, your dropped activity, changed tone, what you wrote about risk before the day post and the fact you attacked people voting both risk and yamato on day 1 makes you a pretty compelling lynch today. | ||
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On February 18 2013 05:37 sandroba wrote: Yo marv I got a proposition for you. Scum RB is dead so syllo can shoot tonight. How about you get a mafia for us that we can agree on, if the dude flips green syllo shoots your face and we dont need to waste another day wondering what if. Sounds good? I can't shoot tonight | ||
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Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting What does that even mean? Grush is guiding the thread? ##unvote ##vote Mattchew | ||
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On February 18 2013 03:15 sandroba wrote: @hopeless you commented on the gun usage, but no comments on risk.nuke?I'm fine with shooting Risk. I was curious if syllo would let us direct his shot, but as he's taking suggestions from you, its almost the same thing. Why is is almost the same thing? You haven't had much to say about Risk and Mattchew so far, I'm pretty sure you are going to be next if Mattchew flips mafia | ||
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On February 18 2013 03:25 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm fine with shooting Risk. I was curious if syllo would let us direct his shot, but as he's taking suggestions from you, its almost the same thing. | ||
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On February 18 2013 21:52 Mattchew wrote: Sandroba do you think you could have forced a scum syllo into shooting his teammate risk? I like the part where syllo doesn't explain why my suspicions of vivax are bad he just mentions them I'm saying you don't look like a confused townie who is trying to figure things out, but rather you keep your focus, ignoring evidence that should constantly be shaping your reads. The whole focus of your game has been vivax; everyone else is pretty much null or town to you. | ||
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On February 18 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote: ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless? He has less content, hopeless seems a bit more involved and I'm lazy; I haven't really put that much thought into weighing my options today as it seems like we can lynch all the possibilities and still win. How about you tell me why you apparently think hopeless1der is the better lynch today? | ||
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ObviousOne: in the future try to let people answer for themselves, in particular players we are considering lynching | ||
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On February 17 2013 12:55 WeWinMafia wrote: I'd really still like a marv lynch to be honest. I mean I hinted it for a reason. I wanted to either get shot or roleblocked and I did get roleblocked, which most likely means mafia doesn't want people dead that I want dead. If it's not going to be Marv I'd say OO looks like the best alternative. I have this habit of thinking mafias are usually smart enough to not risk getting themselved modkills. Idk but I can't remember that ever happening: Someone misses the deadline, comes back, too late, apoligizes and ends up being mafia. I don't think that I have ever seen that while I have seen plenty townies like that. IF a mafia ends up getting modkilled they usually completly abandon the game whereas mafias who don't plan on getting modkilled usually do the RoL. This looks fake to me and doesn't even entertain the notion that Mattchew is mafia and couldn't vote. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17815582 | ||
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On February 19 2013 00:05 marvellosity wrote: it would also mean that mafia witheld their roleblock and Toad claimed it on himself. risk flipped framer/roleblocker, so maybe he could only do one action, and he framed someone? I dunno Even if it RBs and frames at the same time, it's entirely possible that they actually used the role on mafia toad as it would probably make him green to DT checks and he could get town cred/cast suspicion on you by hinting that he might be shooting you. It makes some sense as it can give you pretty massive town cred, in particular when rb/framer flips. The only problem with this theory is that it probably requires Toad to be a goon, unless he is a mafia vig/poisoner who only has one at most two shots. | ||
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That's at most slightly town favored. e: mafia doesn't even have to use the vig; they can save it until lylo or vig the highest priority target if they are ever about to be lynched. It might have even been possible to force nolynch with the vig as it could be used at any time. | ||
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