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On February 16 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote: Ignore this post out of hand. I don't look scummy, except to the person who managed to rack up a whole bunch of votes for playing so atrociously on day 1, and possible scum Toad. protect syllo or sand, like syllo or sand said. thefuck dude. You still haven't given a single reason for thinking I am mafia except for "Sandro knows Toad, let's sheep Sandro because he said Toad might be mafia in a oneliner without explaining!" and you keep on doing this. Again, you're the guy who told me to lynch Supersoft / hopeless / myself instead of Yamato based on a sheep without explanation, when you had all the reason to sheep him on Yamato as well. Sandro said Yamato is looking bad as well yet you somehow ended up being totally fine sheeping everything he said except for the one thing you came up with yourself as well. That's odd isn't it? | ||
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On February 17 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote: One just off the top of my head. You calling votes on mafia "irrelevant" after saying in LIX, as town, that we solved the game in large part through voting patterns. Just shit like that. You're just lying, when did I tell you to lynch supersoft? Why are you lying? Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly). I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't. Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2.... | ||
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On February 17 2013 00:46 WeWinMafia wrote: Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly). I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't. Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2.... just in case your mafiamind is refusing to believe what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler [click me] + On December 22 2012 02:22 Toadesstern wrote: I made a Ven-diagram to explain the situation: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pkw4k.png) People who voted WBG early on might be a mafia-treat. WBG was the most serious alternative to Wiggles besides Zelblade. Zelblade hasn't flipped yet but I mentioned that I can't imagine Wiggles and WBG both being mafia. Worst case would be wiggles = mafia, WBG = SK imo. Zelblade is still open, so that's why I only include the WBG votes. Also because the one flipped mafia voted WBG and obviously it's in mafias interest to not have Wiggles lynched, even if WBG is SK because they don't know that either. people who voted Wiggles late = the last 3 people imo. Could have added sciberbia if your definition of "late" is "exactly after majority has been reached" but I'd say that's too drastic. Vivax might be getting bonus points for voting morbidius but that's just speculation as long as neither of them flipped. and you're saying I'm a liar because I don't usually consider "late votes on mafia" a mafiatrait? Not only did I do it, it fucking works ALL THE TIME. The reason I said I don't care about the timing (and I added something about the lines of "wether it's #7,#8,#9 or #10 on the votelist) is because those people are all in the same boat and I'll eat my hat if not at least one or 2 out of those guys is a mafia who thought he has to switch. | ||
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1) Does anyone besides marv think the following is a lie or misstating the issue: Because he keeps calling me a liar for no reason. The last "liar" was about "toad you don't usually treat late votes on mafias as a mafiatrait" is just completly wrong as shown by the ven-diagram quote I provided from a recent game. It's EXACTLY the same approach, Marv was in the game and he should know it. As mentioned, I don't care so much about Marv but I don't like him calling me a liar or other words when it's in fact just wrong, so I would like to get some opionions on that one. Because last night I was a candidate for lynch because someone said "yeah let's lynch Toad I've got a funny feeling in my stomach" and I don't want that to happen again... 2) Hopeless, do you remember the newbie game I coached? I know I'm constantly asking for games names and it's annoying but I really can't keep track of those things... I know what happened in those games but I can't find them  I'm asking you because you either hosted it or coached it as well. I'm asking because there's something interesting in the scum-QT from me. | ||
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On February 17 2013 02:11 marvellosity wrote: your words: "why you were so perfectly fine sheeping Sand on someone you didn't consider a lynch until he mentioned him while no't willing to sheep Sand on someone you wanted dead yourself as well so desperately" you're saying i was willing to sheep sandroba on you, but not yamato, who "I wanted dead so desperately" Please find evidence that I wanted yamato dead so desperately. Otherwise you are indeed lying. On February 15 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote: Well, his filter is short, which is fairly worrying for yamato. I still didn't see 5-vote worthy, though. He's also in another game so presumably his time is divided. His longer post, while I disagree with some of the thought processes, seem consistent with how I imagine him to play town, it goes from a to b, and it's not angry or irrational. So now I have to go find out exactly why everyone's voting for him. *steals work time* 1) His filter is short, which is a strong tell if you know he's usually playing like gonzaw on steroids. You do know it and you also know that he's very agressive and confident in everything he says, no matter if it's wrong or right. You basicly say that and deny it by soft-defending via a "well he's in 2 games, so he's good"-post. 2) You say his long post isn't good but you think it's how he'd play because it's not angry or irrational. If I recall correctly he was quite angrily pushing either you or both of us in a recent game, tunneling like a mad man. Wasn't he? On February 15 2013 23:04 Vivax wrote: What makes you sure that layabout is town? On February 15 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote: i'm not sure, but i think he is. his pushes on both hopeless and yamato are logical. So yeah. You don't say it outright but your posts you definitely consider him weird to say the least although you kept on defending him for odd reasons. | ||
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On February 17 2013 02:29 marvellosity wrote: I mean, you're saying I'm defending him, I'm soft-defending him, yet I want him dead so desperately. Doesn't make sense Toad. Not one bit. yes it does. That's the difference between defending someone and soft-defending him like you did. Your posts say you want to lynch him because he's looking bad but you end up finishing in saying "naaah don't want to because of random reason X". That's why I said you want him dead. Your posts still read like you should be very much happy with him being lynched. | ||
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On February 17 2013 03:23 Hopeless1der wrote: @Toad You wrong me, sir. I have not once hosted a newbie nor coached in a newbie game. However, I have located this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091 Is this to your liking? yeah, awesome :D I want you guys to explain me how you search & find these things... I can't find shit on TL and need to learn how to properly learn stuff. Thanks anyways. | ||
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On February 17 2013 07:18 Zessionar wrote: rofl Toad :D Why didn't you wait another night :D awwww now i am extremely afraid :D I did that once. Game was called Arkham city and I shot 3 townies because I tried to shoot 2ndary targets for big plays instead of shooting primary targets due to reasoning like "well X is going to get lynched so I shoot Y instead" or "well X is going to get mediced by mafia if they have a medic so I shoot Y instead". Ended up shooting 3 townies in a row and the people I did NOT shoot always were mafia. I learned my lesson and just shoot dem scummy bastards no matter what :p | ||
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On February 17 2013 07:41 Zessionar wrote: woa marv double my filterpagenumber... and i think i should be #2 in this game... haaaaaah toaddy :D i am scared... no need to be | ||
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Good thing I didn't shoot Marv I guess. | ||
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On February 17 2013 08:07 Toadesstern wrote: I got roleblocked sry, that's me again | ||
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On February 17 2013 08:02 Vivax wrote: So, Toad, you pulled off your stunt. And what do you make with marv's post? Not sure what to make of it yet. I would much rather have seen a screenshot from his sheet than that but I guess it's something. The biggest problem is that I don't know wether he delayed his initial rage-post and already started typing something beforehand to make it look like a quicker reaction but I guess that's far fetched so I'd say I'm back to null on him right now instead of a mafiaread. | ||
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