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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#361
Fair enough, Sn0, but I consider my contributions to be on par with yours, and certainly ahead of glurio, Slayalot, and cakepie in terms of post count. If a Zarepath scum were having the easiest game of his life, glurio, Slayalot, and cakepie scum would be having the easiest games of all time.

If there's something specifically scummy you'd like me to respond to, I suggest you point it out in place of more abstract summaries ("There isn't any fire in him to kill scum," "easy post without any real goal"). I thought my posts were pretty well goal-oriented.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 17:46 GMT
#362
I wasn't really interested in YOUR opinion of yourself zare

Glurio has been mentioned before, and while admittedly he isn't the most brilliant scumhunter my read on him is the noob town read, where he tries but really is pretty clueless. I don't really see any scum motivation there.

Slayalot is admittedly getting it pretty easy (especially from Warbaby o.O) but they have at least been mentioned. I'll prolly scroll through their filter again. For some reason I keep wanting to use female pronouns to describe slayalot (teacher gender-bias maybe? dunno).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:01 GMT
#363
Okay slayalot has a fantastically short filter o.O

The scumteam could easily be like Slayalot/Cakepie and we would never know because they essentially don't post...

Yuck.
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Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:04 GMT
#364
On January 30 2013 12:45 cDgCorazon wrote:

You don't want to die. Dying sucks. You can't trust the town to hunt the targets and use the same arguments as you. You want to be alive personally so you can scumhunt and do your part to help the town win. You can't do that if you're town. Your final contribution to town (if you stay this path) right now is your flip, which would only make the percentages of us getting them the next day go down. We can't take you seriously. You've only tunneled WB. Sure it would put him under the spotlight, but that's not enough to make me lynch him if you flipped town. If you're town, you need to make your contribution greater if you gave us more than one option.


I don't play to live, I play to win. Playing to live is for scum, because they have inevitability. I do trust my townmates because I don't believe I'm anything special and anyone with half a brain is capable of making the remarks I made. Sometimes in chess you have to sacrifice a pawn to take a knight. I do believe that my flipping town will incriminate warbaby, whether you're personally convinced or not.


You dodged my argument, and you're playing to the quietness of D1 (going AFK and not letting anyone know. We would understand if you had said something) and now the discussion-filled D2. You've only tunneled WB all game, and have basically contributed nothing to town. You've been asked multiple times to focus on someone other than WB at least temporarily, and you have not done so. If you have the town's best interests in mind, you would have hunted someone other than WB. Your failure to do so, along with the other reasons and you just acting like a general douchebag, are why I'm voting for you. Understand, or do I need to simplify more?


I understand quite well that you're happy to lynch a townie if you can justify it by saying he was a "douchebag". That's a town tell if I ever saw one!
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:06 GMT
#365
I thought about Slayalot really well, and why/if I would cast my vote for Acid~ again.

Acid~ is posting more. The only reason to lynch him is because he's being a douchebag (to borrow Cora's rather appropriate verbiage).

Lynching Acid~ for being a douchebag is silly. At least he is picking up his game, and casting a vote D2. Lynching a lurker makes more sense to me, because I don't have a good enough scumread on anyone right now to pursue them.

##Vote: SlayAlot

I really was hoping we could egg SlayAlot on into playing this game properly, but we're halfway through D2 and he hasn't stepped it up. Acid~ has stepped it up, to some extent. I still FoS him for being a useless town, but I can't legitimately come up with a reason to vote him that's not OMGUS (or OMGUDB).

If you guys hop on Acid~'s attempts to mislynch me, and fall for his ridiculous case, then you are idiots. I especially expected more from Zarepath.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:08 GMT
#366
On January 30 2013 23:16 Slayalot wrote:
Acid. Now that I see you writing more. Please start to create a better town atmosphere.
You are still tunneling warbaby. And you are going emotional in almost every post.
Lets say warbaby isn't scum, but he gets lynched. What have you contributed with??


If warbaby is town then he essentially won the game for the scum team. What has he contributed besides attacking me for circumstances over which I have no control?
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:10 GMT
#367
On January 31 2013 03:08 Acid~ wrote:
If warbaby is town then he essentially won the game for the scum team. What has he contributed besides attacking me for circumstances over which I have no control?


You obviously have not actually read my filter (or didn't pay enough attention while you did). You are projecting your own actions onto me. Stop being a douchebag, please.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#368
At this point the game is getting so confused.

I'm less sure that warbaby is scum, although his play is pretty hard to explain. I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game. Plus there is still a better chance of him flipping scum than anybody else right now.

My worry is if WB flips town, then we have no leads (acid still doesn't seem scummy, just annoying atm) and not much time.

Another part of me wants to lynch CakePie since he has quite simply posted essentially nothing. The classic lurker lynch. While I know he doesn't have a ton of time blah blah blah, all he has done is a tiny bit of setup discussion. Thats it. 1 post worth the name. Admittedly he hasn't even had 48 hours to contribute, but he has had long enough to do more than 1 post.

Oh yeah,

If we could get a votecount as well as updated OP with flips and Cakepie that would be awesome thanks
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Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#369
On January 31 2013 03:06 warbaby wrote:
I thought about Slayalot really well, and why/if I would cast my vote for Acid~ again.

Acid~ is posting more. The only reason to lynch him is because he's being a douchebag (to borrow Cora's rather appropriate verbiage).

Lynching Acid~ for being a douchebag is silly. At least he is picking up his game, and casting a vote D2. Lynching a lurker makes more sense to me, because I don't have a good enough scumread on anyone right now to pursue them.

##Vote: SlayAlot

I really was hoping we could egg SlayAlot on into playing this game properly, but we're halfway through D2 and he hasn't stepped it up. Acid~ has stepped it up, to some extent. I still FoS him for being a useless town, but I can't legitimately come up with a reason to vote him that's not OMGUS (or OMGUDB).

If you guys hop on Acid~'s attempts to mislynch me, and fall for his ridiculous case, then you are idiots. I especially expected more from Zarepath.


See, this doesn't make sense. Going for LAL today because you "don't have a scum read" is essentially admitting that you're useless.

And then, you call my case an "attempt to mislynch" which is implying that I'm scum.

So which is it? Oh, right. now that more and more people seem to be convinced that we can't both be town, you can't lead the charge against me anymore, because then you're screwed tomorrow.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:18 GMT
#370
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:19 GMT
#371
On January 31 2013 03:16 Acid~ wrote:
And then, you call my case an "attempt to mislynch" which is implying that I'm scum.


Absolutely not. A complete douchebag town is certainly capable of driving a mislynch.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:19 GMT
#372
On January 31 2013 03:10 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:08 Acid~ wrote:
If warbaby is town then he essentially won the game for the scum team. What has he contributed besides attacking me for circumstances over which I have no control?


You obviously have not actually read my filter (or didn't pay enough attention while you did). You are projecting your own actions onto me. Stop being a douchebag, please.


You wanted to lynch a lurker day 1, you did it, congratulations. You can't make a case against anyone day 2 because it's really hard when you know all your targets are town and you have to fabricate evidence, so you're again wanting to lynch a lurker day 2.

Here is the actual scumhunting I found in your filter:+ Show Spoiler +
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#373
On January 31 2013 03:18 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.


If you wish to make a doctor claim, I'm all ears.
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warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#374
On January 31 2013 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:18 warbaby wrote:
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.


If you wish to make a doctor claim, I'm all ears.


Not yet, hun. We're still too far from deadline.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:21 GMT
#375
On January 31 2013 03:19 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:16 Acid~ wrote:
And then, you call my case an "attempt to mislynch" which is implying that I'm scum.


Absolutely not. A complete douchebag town is certainly capable of driving a mislynch.


It's not an "attempt" to mislynch if I don't know it's a mislynch. Words have meanings.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:22 GMT
#376
On January 31 2013 03:21 Acid~ wrote:
It's not an "attempt" to mislynch if I don't know it's a mislynch. Words have meanings.


If you aren't cognizant of the fact that your case is bullshit, you're even stupider than I thought.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#377
On January 31 2013 03:22 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:21 Acid~ wrote:
It's not an "attempt" to mislynch if I don't know it's a mislynch. Words have meanings.


If you aren't cognizant of the fact that your case is bullshit, you're even stupider than I thought.


Why did you not urge town to take their vote off SkaPunk when you did? You said you switched because you had a town read on him. You had been leading town all day, why did not lead town away from what you thought would be a mislynch?

You've been dodging this question all day.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#378
On January 31 2013 03:20 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 31 2013 03:18 warbaby wrote:
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.


If you wish to make a doctor claim, I'm all ears.


Not yet, hun. We're still too far from deadline.


Time to deadline isn't terribly relevant during the day. Blue claims at night need to be right up on the deadline to ensure that the NK doesn't change to get the blue. Blue claims during the day should be early in the day so that they can be fairly examined and accounted for. Unless you wish to make the blue-claim last minute so that nobody can dispute it... which sounds pretty scummy.

I think it is already decently clear that you will get lynched today without a blueclaim and proof (although the requested votecount should clear that up).
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warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:27 GMT
#379
The claim is pointless if I'm not about to flip. I will make any claims no more than 1 hour before deadline, if I am still about to be lynched.

Sn0 is right, killing me will bring some clarity. It's still not the best move for town, but it's also not the worst.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 30 2013 18:30 GMT
#380
On January 31 2013 03:25 Acid~ wrote:

Why did you not urge town to take their vote off SkaPunk when you did? You said you switched because you had a town read on him. You had been leading town all day, why did not lead town away from what you thought would be a mislynch?

You've been dodging this question all day.


I never said I swtiched from Ska because I had a town read on him. I voted for Ska in the first place to pressure him into posting. It didn't work. I thought maybe there was some >0% chance pressuring someone else to post would work.

Imagine I am the doctor. The doctor NEEDS to make town reads to be an effective doctor (unlike a VT who only really needs to make scum reads). Does that help you understand my play?
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
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