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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 03:53 GMT
#264
i want to understand your motivation to get between me and him.
Now i want you to tell me the reason why he was town in your eyes in that moment.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 04:01 GMT
#270
On January 13 2013 12:55 MrZentor wrote:
I don't really remember when I said that, but I've played a lot of mafia with him irl, and usually he is much more passive when he's scum, and he's relatively new to forum mafia, so I thought it would be difficult for him to change his playstyle, so it seemed unlikely that Jay was scum.

Why?


because jay had only these two posts:

On January 13 2013 09:01 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~
On January 13 2013 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
If Kush goes retard in this game I'll just modkill him

I'll have no qualms about that.

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.


The way your entering the thread is terrible your setting the town up for failure.

Its hard enough to play mafia when people are trying there best. If your gonna play like shit and it make it intentionally hard to read you I have no problem lynching you. You looking scummy as it is.

You can step it up, Or get lynched your call.


On January 13 2013 09:06 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:02 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:01 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~
On January 13 2013 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
If Kush goes retard in this game I'll just modkill him

I'll have no qualms about that.

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.


The way your entering the thread is terrible your setting the town up for failure.

Its hard enough to play mafia when people are trying there best. If your gonna play like shit and it make it intentionally hard to read you I have no problem lynching you. You looking scummy as it is.

You can step it up, Or get lynched your call.


are you town?

Yes :o


when you told me this:

On January 13 2013 09:07 MrZentor wrote:
Super, Jay is town. -.-


On January 13 2013 09:40 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:37 grush57 wrote:
MR ZENTOR

On January 13 2013 09:09 grush57 wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 MrZentor wrote:
Super, Jay is town. -.-


How do you know he is town?



I can read Jay well.

We're cousins.


Since there was almost nothing to "read", i am really wondering how you got to that conclusion that he is town.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 12:00 GMT
#317
On January 13 2013 16:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
super, agree/disagree:

three of four

Hopeless
Xatalos
Zentor
Promethelax


ahm, agree on Zentor obviously

disagree on xatalos right now, slooshs case doesn't convince me. Many pointless questions were asked in this thread.
He randomly understands my smilie-pressuring... got to think about him a little.

Hopeless vote on grush is terrible, + Show Spoiler +
i read grush as town, grushs questions make sense, overall posting look okay, i don't see any signs of scummyness.
it's not enough posting for me to really have an opinion about hopeless. ofc. might be scum.

Prom is a nice catch, i agree on him. His larger post

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?
pointless, i already answered this question in my very first post - he didnt read

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column? pointless

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.



looks extremely scummy, pointless questioning, didn't read the thread properly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 12:25 GMT
#318
hapahauli is terrible but he thinks he's great,
sloosh is scum.

##vote sloosh

sloosh, are you voting zentor with me, if i move my vote away from you?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 14:54 GMT
#321
ey zentor, do you admit that a townread based on that one post is extremely suspicious.
regardless of your real alignment, especially if youre town, i want your honest opinion!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 15:01 GMT
#323
On January 13 2013 23:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
i would vote sloosh or prom right now


why sloosh?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 15:35 GMT
#326
On January 14 2013 00:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
his case on xatalos wasn't really anything that hadn't been said and therefore seemed like a huge waste of words to write about something that a lot of people are already thinking

I asked him for his opinions on a few other players and he failed the thread reading test with his response:

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:
On January 13 2013 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.


any comments on other stuff that's happened in the thread?

what do you think about hopeless, grush, super, zentor, and ruuch?

super pulled some total bs with his second entry, which happened to coincide when you started your pressure on Xatalos. It's really dangerous to make such connections but the case stands well enough alone that it's something worth considering.

ruuch is totally new, and all he has to do is chime in with his most current thoughts now and again and we will all get along. Going after him right now makes no sense to me.

I wrote down somewhere hopeless was just echoing something someone else already said, and put down "acting useless".

I like grush. Mr Zentor is ok too. And by that I mean, unless someone shows me Xatalos and super is probably not scum, I won't be looking into these guys.



his read on super was based on his read on xatalos which is the easiest thing ever for scum to fake. his comments on ruuch do not mention the fact that he got voted for early on and did not respond in a townie way to the vote. he didn't mention anything relevant about hopeless, grush, or zentor either. I asked about those players specifically because there is stuff to say about them and they have all had their own impact on the thread, yet sloosh doesn't talk about anything they've actually done. he just spat out some generic statements about them.

He only had an opinion about xatalos and his opinions about other things were either extremely shortsighted or not at all relevant to what's actually happened in the game.


mhm good! I agree.

On January 14 2013 00:11 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 23:54 supersoft wrote:
ey zentor, do you admit that a townread based on that one post is extremely suspicious.
regardless of your real alignment, especially if youre town, i want your honest opinion!


I would agree that somebody having a town read on Kush based on that one post would be strange, and if that happened it should certainly be looked into, but I don't see it as something scum would do.

It can be dangerous for scum to have a townread on a townie, because later in the game, when there are several confirmed town, scum sometimes have difficulty finding people to push for a lynch; the scum will have to pretend to transition from a town read to a scum read on that person, which can be particularly difficult to fake.


mhm no. I don't agree. That's not true at all.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 16:07 GMT
#330
It's not going to get us anywhere Zentor. You just stupidly defend yourself. I expected a certain answer and I wanted to follow that up with another line of thoughts, but i see that i cannot work with you. Consequently, I just end our conversation.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 16:49 GMT
#336
supersoft

Kushm4sta
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +

grush57
I am town. +
"How do you know?
scum with supersoft hmm?" ++

Hapahauli
stupid spammer townie ++
annoys me

wherebugsgo lightest green
talks to me -/+
decent list +

Xatalos
understands me +

jaybrundage
zentor says hes town +

Ruuch
newbie

Hopeless1der
I am town. + excuse -

thrawn2112 more like pink
- refused to say he's town
"yes, i wonder this as well" lol. yeah sure. i dont buy it.
"it'd be fun to be a scumteam again, skyping was more fun than posting in the real thread in that game" - pointless ---
"no/yes of course, duh"
-votes sloosh
good case on sloosh. ++

Promethelax
pointless questions, didnt read --

MrZentor
"Super, Jay is town. -.-" scumslip ?
is the older cousin. defend is naturally - how does he know he's town, is still the question
says he can read jay because of one post of his --
wrong thought about what scum does and what not.
confuses kush and jay even though jay is his cousin?

slOosh
calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions --
bad case on easy xatalos -
really bad reasoning accusing me ---

______________________________________________________________________________

i usually don't do this, since i am afraid people sheep me and i cannot get reads of them as easy.
But i feel like we're pretty early in this game and my reads are not at all engraved in stone and can change pretty quickly. I think there are so many new players in this game, it cannot be bad to show you how i scumhunt, since i am fairly successful usually (not always at d1 though since the votes and the lynches and especially night actions give me the most informations).
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 17:04 GMT
#338
On January 14 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
super....

how do i get points deducted for voting sloosh, yet i get town points for making a case on sloosh?


the "-" in front of stuff is meaningless.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 17:17 GMT
#341
"You seem to think you're a mildly competent scumhunter; how many times have you either lead a lynch on a scum or were the first to accuse them seriously? Can you cite any specific examples?"

hahahahaha

and I am sheeping thrawn? hahaha seriously?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 17:27 GMT
#344
On January 14 2013 02:20 MrZentor wrote:
I am serious.


out of my memory my last 3 towngames.

1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336250&user=64722&currentpage=All

saved wbg from a nighkill
knew wiggles was scumGF at d2
died n2

2. bigbang http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480&user=64722&currentpage=All

shot scum d2 i believe noone suspected this guy before...
was shot d3 by scumGF

3. bureau http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=64722&currentpage=All

shot scum CEO-Foolishness n3 and made a case against scumpalmar who was successfully lynched d4
dunno what i did the rest of the game, we won pretty easy after that.

66,6% winrate on town?

screw you. Seriously. Now i am really really pissed.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 19:06 GMT
#360
yeah i see it. i am on it right now...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 19:33 GMT
#373
On January 14 2013 04:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool story bro, you called my case weak without even showing how it is. I have no reason to even bother replying to you any further until you learn to read.


and that is what makes you scum


ahm no. That doesnt make him scum. Put your vote back on sloosh where it belongs D1.
actually i am not sure about kushmaser. His active lurking is scummy.

On January 14 2013 03:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright, let's kill kush.

##vote kushm4sta

Beyond what has been said by other people about kush, note one important thing; he's been called scummy a hell of a lot but no one has actually put a vote on him. I don't recall anyone finding anything that really points in his favor either, and as I couldn't find anything on that front myself, I think that makes him a great lynch today.

In addition, there are very many reasons to call him scum, and different players have said different things. Indeed, what I noticed was different from all of them, in fact
. If you would like to see for yourself, filter kush and go back into his posts. Note the number of times he comments on his own appearance. Note how he asks someone how his entrance into the thread was scummy. Note how he actually bothers to explain himself for even the tiniest accusations; things in previous games I would have expected him to either ignore or indignantly call someone stupid over.

Lastly, note how he never follows up on his reads, pushes his reads, or gives the impression that he is trying to strengthen or rationalize his reads. He certainly doesn't seem to care who scum are.


I really dislike the red part... I really do... black part is meh and green part is something i think is true. But is it enough to call him a solid lynch today? I don't think so...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 19:46 GMT
#377
we're like 20 hours into the game and am no magician. Thrawn said it all about sloosh in the thread.
I think this no more evidence against anyone else. Sloosh is the scummiest, his Xatolos-case is weak and doesnt convince me at all.
His attempt to connect me to xatulos is really bad and calling my reads and my actions bullshit obviously shows, that he has a really strange mindset if he's town.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 19:46 GMT
#378
this -> there*
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 21:38 GMT
#395
On January 14 2013 06:26 MrZentor wrote:
Annoyed that your mislynch left? :p


hahahaha
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 22:05 GMT
#399
Who do you think you are, to vote for me?
Seriously who do you think you are?
anti-town? my play? What the fuck?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 22:07 GMT
#401
Ah wait. Sorry, now i see. You're scum. Lol i already had you on my list.
Thank you. And fuck you scum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 22:16 GMT
#402
what i dont understand... "supersoft is trying to get vets lynched"...
Do you consider Zentor and SloOsh as vets?
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