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iGrok
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Nova_Terra
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Stutters, you said that i felt townie to you, and then you posted a post from me where i replied to CH and said something anti- xfire. Could you explain to me what that had to do with what you said? I could be missing something, but it seemed to be irrelevant to what i had posted there | ||
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Poster CH If Crossfire indeed flips scum, we need to take a look at these interactions: + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2013 14:20 Crossfire99 wrote: I don't like this post by Gonzaw (?) because he's saying people shouldn't defend themselves. This is like a townie who is getting lynched and not fighting it. You have to fight the lynch to save yourself and help town in the process. In this game, a lynch is like everyone attacking someone, so I think people should play their decks to the best of their ability and when we find scum, we all attack him because I doubt scum can withstand 7v1. I mean if scum can withstand that, how is this game balanced lol? On January 29 2013 14:27 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh, yeah unless I'm not understanding the magic part correctly. Basically, what you seem to be advocating (feel free to correct me if I misunderstood you) is that people shouldn't play cards which can keep them alive longer. This would be the equivalent of someone fighting to survive a mislynch in a regular game. You don't just want to roll over and die. That only helps scum. On January 29 2013 14:38 Crossfire99 wrote: Oh I understand what you mean now. Yeah people should definitely take a stance and attack a scum read if given the chance. I probably won't be as harsh as you in saying that no one should play defensive creatures, but if someone only defends himself and never attacks, that will definitely play an important part in how I view them. On January 31 2013 08:03 Crossfire99 wrote: YOu know what gonzaw: I just got home. I'm sorry that I don't have all the freaking time in the world to play this game. I need to catch up now. Stupid accusations like that...ah...seriously. Idk what to see. I already made my position clear on Join forces earlier On January 31 2013 08:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Seriously, you want me to use mana for Join Forces, when I think Clockwork is the most scummy as of right now. Oh hey what's this post by you to suck: This makes no sense seriously. I'm just...lask;dfjkl;sdjlakj.f...aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggggg...why are you attacking me for playing according to my reads...ajdsfljdfiopjdoajfp On January 31 2013 08:25 Crossfire99 wrote: I have a freaking life and it is pretty busy right now. I played at night when the started 2 days when i had time. I played at night last night when i had time. Now i am playing just when i got home. I really really really really really lrajljafl;dsfjal; klaldsfj want to attack you right now just cause of the crap you just said, but I know that is just me not thinking clearly because of what you said, so I'm not going to decide rihgt now. ughguigho On January 31 2013 08:33 Crossfire99 wrote: I'm according to my reads at this time, which happen to be the smae as the big last post because I haven't had time to play since then. Seriously. And thinking about it some more right now. Clockwork's whole be careful about powering invidual people up and then asking everyone to do it to him reminds way too much of strong from WLIIA, except here clockwork had the balls to tell everyone to be careful of just what he was doing this game. Strong in WLIIA at least didn't try to say bewware of the very thing he was doing. On January 31 2013 08:39 Crossfire99 wrote: Your right Gonzaw. Sorry, for getting so angry. There's a lot of crap going on irl causing me to be stressed and i'm getting way too pissed off at people saying where's crossfire. crossfire isn't here. crossfire needs to post more becaues I know i am literally using every free moment to play this game. I hope we can have a clean start from here and i will try not to let me emotions get the best of me. Feel free to call me out again if I get too angry again. I don't want to play like that. On January 31 2013 08:44 Crossfire99 wrote: I chose to cast the monsters I did because they were the only ones I could cast this turn (and I didn't want to give my mana towards minds aglow). You'll have to ask Risen why he put Shaman in the deck, but Shaman can do more than just do 2 damage to everyone. On January 31 2013 08:48 Crossfire99 wrote: Don't worry about it, I understand  we're cool. Time to get back to reading so I can answer your questions in an informed manner.And then they're buddies again. I also don't know what to think as very recently this comes up: + Show Spoiler + On February 03 2013 04:06 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Anyways, I'm lazy so I'll post the "interesting" stuff I found about Xfire: 1)Yesterday he didn't attack with his 3 damage, nor defend himself against Clock's zombies. You might say he didn't defend so he'd have his shaman to do shit, but he could have defended with the goblin, specially since it relates to my next point. Also, since he did ninja-cast last day, I assume he was active in the Attack Phase at some point. I don't know if to believe his IRL busy shit or believe he was lurking every now and then. Even so he could have attacked with his 3 KP when he was active (if as scum he knew he wouldn't be active). It's weird how he didn't attack Clock, his "scumread" he was so pushing when he freaked out at me, which would be 3 free damage to a townie by scum. Unless he thought Clock would block with zombie tokens and destroy his Shaman? Dunno 2)As soon as this T2 started, Xfire claimed scum with the Soul Syphon and stuff. This was WAY too sudden if Soul Syphon was the card he drew this T2, you don't plan to out yourself as scum in 10 seconds like that after receiving that card. My point: Xfire and scum planned Xfire outing himself ever since the T1 Attack Phase, already having drawn Soul Syphon and maybe Soul Warden with Minds Aglow This bit may be interesting to see how the other scum would react in T1 AP. If they already planned on outing Xfire as scum, I'd think his scumbuddy would have no problem at all in instantly bussing him with all his might, considering they knew every townie would know he was scum just 1 cycle later. Or maybe not? Dunno, it's what I want to discuss with Prome, and might as well let you guys know to see what you think /G On February 03 2013 04:10 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: I had this funny conspiracy theory about Clock being Xfire's scumbuddy setting himself up to a late-win. Xfire wouldn't attack him T1 since he's his scumbuddy. Xfire would WIFOM about him being scum today to confuse us and then say "lol I was telling the truth you dumb townies!" in post-game. Also maybe Clock didn't actually want to attack Xfire on T1, but when they figured out they could out Xfire as scum he posted the "Oh actually I'm not suspicious of Suck (who I said I wanted to attack this turn), in fact Xfire is like confirmed scum!" case late-T1. Also like half of the people were suspicious of Clock for some reason at some point (some reason I could never figure out), so hey maybe they were all right, right? And maybe I'm a dumb townie who just can't catch scum. It even seems to "fit" too much lol. It's funny if it's true though (if it is then I should be Town MVP for being the first one to figure it out  )/G At any rate, this has in fact made me more suspicious of Poster. Something about the exchange certainly seems weird. The other interaction was the XFire-CH case. + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 14:43 Crossfire99 wrote: -snip- Now onto some scum hunting. Let's take a look at Clockwork shall we. Look at the contradiction at how he responds to virtually the same question: + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 00:30 Clockwork Hydra wrote: -snipped- But the worst part is the last bit: 1. Can some over-eager townie please do all the hard work for me, by giving me a cliffnotes version of a long and complicated game? PS. All the time you spend summarizing that game for my lazy ass, you're not scumhunting, so doublescore one for me! 2. More MTG discussion, but this time with extra wishy wash! For the record: we focus down people. Why make it easier for the mafia creature to kill people? That is one of the mistakes made in the first game, which you would know if you had read it... like everybody has been telling you to. The entire post is completely useless. It contributes nothing, yet tries to sound as if he is actually contributing, with a "novel" point on the use of Minds Aglow and a pointless question about policy. If this post didn't put you on instant red alert, your scumdar needs fixing. On January 29 2013 08:59 Clockwork Hydra wrote: -snipped- Well, you mentioned quite a bit of it. They/you spent a LOT of time bickering about useless stuff (not just setup, but completely pointless stuff about setup) and town didn't play as a team (mainly due to everybody mistrusting each other for stupid shit). This game is fundamentally different from normal mafia games not just in that we kill with magic, but because we don't actually have a town-controlled KP. It is thus twice as important to be an active townie, because we are a town TEAM. We need to work together, because our strength is in numbers. This turn people may be able to play one creature, which is a bit of a wimp. But if next turn we can all attack one player with wimps, that will be a healthy chunk of damage. If everybody goes off attacking their own favourite target without reasoning it out properly (like happened in the first 3 turns or so of the previous game), then we have lots of players at 16 life and one dead townie due to mafia creature. That is pointless, and last game was in fact harmful, because the mafia creature could one-shot people sooner than should have been possible (although mafia derped too when they missed an attack). Yes, they're more elaborate forms of our own policies, with some stuff we forgot about. /Acro Also, look at this post where they advise caution when powering up a single person + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2013 09:07 Clockwork Hydra wrote: rhetorical questions, already? huh. As for your points, they're fairly straightforward. The thing about #4 (also kinda applies to #5): Sure it's a townies job to establish his townieness - but if everybody did that properly, we wouldn't need any policies in the first place, now. I shall be reluctant to participate in plans when they result in a favorable position of somebody whose alignment I have no clue about. And I advise everybody to use the same caution in regards to this. On the other hand, I won't have any problems cooperating with people whose townieness I am sure of. (or at least if acro is, that's fine too) ~dandel On January 29 2013 11:00 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Okay so here's the thing: We are running Zombie Infestation. (this badboy right here:+ Show Spoiler + For that reason, we would have prefered Minds aglow next turn (and given all 3 mana, too!), but it seems like like it would be more beneficial to town in general this turn, than delaying until next turn  So if it's going to be today, we would REALLY like to cast zombie infestation this turn (instead of contributing mana). And of course still ask everyone else to use as much mana as humanly possible! Not just the lurkers/scum! Everyone! Think of it as a group project! I promise we're not crazy (or scum) ~dandel (with acro's consent) Lastly, I already showed before how their attack on me was bad and all of this definitely has me thinking Clockwork is the first scum. On February 02 2013 00:17 Crossfire99 wrote: So here's where we stand, we need to find 2 mafia. It is turn 2. We acomplished nothing on turn 1. From all the reading of thread I came to the conclusion taht clockwork is the most obvious scum. He might have a strong position in the game, but if we really work together and focus him down, we have a chance of turning this game around. On February 02 2013 03:17 Crossfire99 wrote: Not going to even defend yourself against my accusation, scum? I see how it is. On February 02 2013 05:03 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry, but I can't let scum kill me with his zombies after all. On February 02 2013 05:14 Crossfire99 wrote: Didn't read the op, scum? On February 02 2013 05:22 Crossfire99 wrote: Thanks for that. Totally didn't realize that lol. Everything that crossfire does here seems fake... The thing is that i would have a hard time believing that he is THAT BAD of an actor. | ||
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zebezt
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I don't have much time now, but I have a question, can the onslaught fetchlands be used to fetch a dual land? /zebezt | ||
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RockHydra
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On February 03 2013 19:39 zebezt wrote: Good morning all. I don't have much time now, but I have a question, can the onslaught fetchlands be used to fetch a dual land? /zebezt nevermind. Googled it myself. I suppose it's possible xfire does run without basic lands then. Although I don't understand why he'd keep badlands instead of searching for a dual. But he obviously isnt very mtg savvy. Not sure how much posting I will do today. Will see. /zebezt | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
Why you running mana barbs even though you claimed artanis didn't allow it? Together with your fearmongering on Storm decks, that's some real contradictions. If I made a google spreadsheet, I'd give +12 scumeter to the storm thing and +9 scumeter to the mana barbs thing. Throw in some random +1 and +2 at a bunch of your posts, and you're already up to high grade B super-suspicion. Just to put it into terms you understand. ~dandel | ||
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RockHydra
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Pretty damning. If you combine that with his decklist he seems too dangerous to not lynch next. Still wanna read over his filter again though, but I suppose we have time for that. /zebezt | ||
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RockHydra
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something to think over. /zebezt | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 03 2013 22:04 RockHydra wrote: oh snap. Aperture caught in a lie. Pretty damning. If you combine that with his decklist he seems too dangerous to not lynch next. Still wanna read over his filter again though, but I suppose we have time for that. /zebezt The decklist he gave doesn't actually sound that dangerous imo. At the very least, not until he has 9+ mana up. Which might mean he has something else "dangerous" in his deck he didn't tell about, or he just wants to cast this Scrambleverse stuff and go full RNG. Which I wouldn't have a problem with, since everything will be 6x more likely to hit town. So statistically, it'd be a REALLY bad move for scum, and really good for town. Tho a really dangerous thing (potentially) was Acidic Ground, but bin only got a new frontiers off, so he can't just oneshot everything with it either. I feel like, if Aperture is scum, he'd probably be more happy to go through the deck with MA, let everyone get a million basics next turn, and then just instagib half of town. Cross and himself both not running (many) basics themself, and Cross running this global dmg scum deck of his, it would basically (no pun intended) be an awesome "we win nao" move. And AT LEAST get people into one-shot range of the mafia beast. Add in one of those copy spells... Now now, it's possible he just didn't think about it and stuff, so I'mma not get too deep into those explanations. Just some food for thought. I'll have to ask Acro on what else that deck's supposed to do, though. Mb I missed something big. (Once he's lucid again, that is) It sounds way2complicated for me. ~dandel | ||
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BinOnFire
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And I have no idea how I can contribute. /Oats | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
I also don't understand why half the cards that are in there are included as they don't seem to be needed for the combo, or useful in setting it up. Also, what's the point of Braids, when all the expensive spells are enchantments or sorceries (and I guess a Hamletback Goliath, but I don't know why that's there either). /Acro | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 04 2013 01:11 BinOnFire wrote: Hey guys, I AM EXTREMELY SORRY for being fucking useless. And I have no idea how I can contribute. /Oats Who's the 2nd scum? | ||
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ALTHOUGH iGrok is pretty suspicious cause On February 03 2013 03:44 Aperture Science wrote: When it comes to iGrok you either you can either have the emotional, trolling version or the scumhunting, logical version. Can't have both. I prefer the scumhunting one myself but if you are displeased with us analyzing stutters you can certainly say so. Like yeah, so far the scumhunting logical one hasent shown up. 'analyzing' the filter of a player is really easy to do as Scum/Town so therefore, Aperture has not clearly shown that he is town yet. | ||
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RockHydra
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He must have something in mind for all those lands in his hand though, or he would not have discarded Epic Experiment and Minds Desire. So I think his mana might be ramping up fast. (fastbond?) | ||
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On February 03 2013 23:27 Clockwork Hydra wrote: The decklist he gave doesn't actually sound that dangerous imo. At the very least, not until he has 9+ mana up. Which might mean he has something else "dangerous" in his deck he didn't tell about, or he just wants to cast this Scrambleverse stuff and go full RNG. Which I wouldn't have a problem with, since everything will be 6x more likely to hit town. So statistically, it'd be a REALLY bad move for scum, and really good for town. Tho a really dangerous thing (potentially) was Acidic Ground, but bin only got a new frontiers off, so he can't just oneshot everything with it either. I feel like, if Aperture is scum, he'd probably be more happy to go through the deck with MA, let everyone get a million basics next turn, and then just instagib half of town. Cross and himself both not running (many) basics themself, and Cross running this global dmg scum deck of his, it would basically (no pun intended) be an awesome "we win nao" move. And AT LEAST get people into one-shot range of the mafia beast. Add in one of those copy spells... Now now, it's possible he just didn't think about it and stuff, so I'mma not get too deep into those explanations. Just some food for thought. I'll have to ask Acro on what else that deck's supposed to do, though. Mb I missed something big. (Once he's lucid again, that is) It sounds way2complicated for me. ~dandel Um, guys, that's not the deck he's playing in this MTG Mafia II game. That's his real-life EDH deck (I'm not sure why he brought up the subject in the first place, and I apologize for asking him about it, but I didn't expect him to post his decklist :3). Let's not get distracted by that, of all things :D MG | ||
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iGrok
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At least 1 person can follow a conversation. I brought it up cause I pulled some sweet stuff for it yesterday! Going back to SCG Open today to see if I can find a Jhoira | ||
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