EPTI guess scum got what they wanted by outing Xfire
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I guess scum got what they wanted by outing Xfire #*le gonzaw*# | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
some emphasis on the word pretending | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
It's also weird how he thinks like one of me/Prome+Clock is scum based on.....something he didn't specify? And he ignores Aperture, Stutters and maybe even you or someone else. Like...he saw the people that attacked Xfire initially and wanted him dead, and thought those were suspicious? Wtf? Can he be this bad as town? I mean, if he actually made some good points about me/Clock, then maybe it'd be okay, but it seems he just posted that for the sake of posting something "new" and maybe not just "say something someone else has already said thus seem you have no new content". I dunno, but he's acting weird as fuck /G | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18243 Posts
Firstly, we're giving him the benefit of the doubt and believing that his temper tantrum was, in fact, a temper tantrum. However, he is still probable scum. 1. His cases are bad and on what we believe to be townies. While being wrong is not necessarily a scum tell, Grokmist has done absolutely nothing except for making these two cases. He doesn't share his reads. 2. He is seemingly inconsistent when it comes to magic (minds aglow, see yesterday's post) and refuses to explain. He also refuses to disclose his deck, hand or anything magic related. While not necessarily a scum tell, it is definitely not behaviour that makes him look townie. 3. Yells at people for making the thread unreadable (too large), then shits up the thread with pointless crap about non-game related stuff. Not sure this is a scumtell, but it pissed me off. Shitting up the thread serves scum's purpose and iGrok has done it twice now. However, he was completely obvious about it and I'm not sure scum have the balls for that. Am I very sure he's scum? No. None of it's conclusive and I'm not done looking at the rest yet (primarily Nova, Rock and Suck). More tomorrow. /Acro | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 04 2013 04:50 Acrofales wrote: Fine, have an update of our read on Aperture. My brain is still not really working, but luckily most of these thoughts are from yesterday. Firstly, we're giving him the benefit of the doubt and believing that his temper tantrum was, in fact, a temper tantrum. However, he is still probable scum. 1. His cases are bad and on what we believe to be townies. While being wrong is not necessarily a scum tell, Grokmist has done absolutely nothing except for making these two cases. He doesn't share his reads. 2. He is seemingly inconsistent when it comes to magic (minds aglow, see yesterday's post) and refuses to explain. He also refuses to disclose his deck, hand or anything magic related. While not necessarily a scum tell, it is definitely not behaviour that makes him look townie. 3. Yells at people for making the thread unreadable (too large), then shits up the thread with pointless crap about non-game related stuff. Not sure this is a scumtell, but it pissed me off. Shitting up the thread serves scum's purpose and iGrok has done it twice now. However, he was completely obvious about it and I'm not sure scum have the balls for that. Am I very sure he's scum? No. None of it's conclusive and I'm not done looking at the rest yet (primarily Nova, Rock and Suck). More tomorrow. /Acro My hydra heads are so awesome that they make identities of their own. This one is me! | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On February 04 2013 04:28 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Nova doing that is indeed fucking weird. It's also weird how he thinks like one of me/Prome+Clock is scum based on.....something he didn't specify? And he ignores Aperture, Stutters and maybe even you or someone else. Like...he saw the people that attacked Xfire initially and wanted him dead, and thought those were suspicious? Wtf? Can he be this bad as town? I mean, if he actually made some good points about me/Clock, then maybe it'd be okay, but it seems he just posted that for the sake of posting something "new" and maybe not just "say something someone else has already said thus seem you have no new content". I dunno, but he's acting weird as fuck /G Go check his previous games. If he's town he's actively playing against his wincon because he's never this bad as town. To treat him as anything other than confirmed scum is wrong. We should be focusing on scum 2 instead of getting derailed by this. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
Not much content in there. Because of that also not much suspicious in there. The thing that sticks out most is the "trying to stay a null read on CH". the explanation for that was quite weird. and now there is the keeping options open on xfire. now I guess I should finally read sucks filter. Been putting that off. /zebezt | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
On February 04 2013 04:28 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Nova doing that is indeed fucking weird. It's also weird how he thinks like one of me/Prome+Clock is scum based on.....something he didn't specify? And he ignores Aperture, Stutters and maybe even you or someone else. Like...he saw the people that attacked Xfire initially and wanted him dead, and thought those were suspicious? Wtf? Can he be this bad as town? I mean, if he actually made some good points about me/Clock, then maybe it'd be okay, but it seems he just posted that for the sake of posting something "new" and maybe not just "say something someone else has already said thus seem you have no new content". I dunno, but he's acting weird as fuck /G umm, no? I said it makes me slightly more suspicious of you and CH based on those encounters... | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
On February 04 2013 04:51 Stutters695 wrote: Go check his previous games. If he's town he's actively playing against his wincon because he's never this bad as town. To treat him as anything other than confirmed scum is wrong. We should be focusing on scum 2 instead of getting derailed by this. well im not actively playing against my wincon, and im still town. Trying to deal with RL issues and all, probably my last TL mafia game cause shit hit the fan. so is life, apparently. | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
On February 04 2013 05:22 Nova_Terra wrote: well im not actively playing against my wincon, and im still town. Trying to deal with RL issues and all, probably my last TL mafia game cause shit hit the fan. so is life, apparently. Would this be scummy due to guilty conscience or townie due to blatant failure to verify accusation target (i.e. Not reading the thread)? ~Hopeless | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I don't know if you would fake this as mafia, but it doesn't make you town. So please try a little bit and tell us your thoughts about the 2nd mafia, and if you plan on pursuing those suspicions you had on me/Clock and why /G | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On February 04 2013 05:22 Nova_Terra wrote: well im not actively playing against my wincon, and im still town. Trying to deal with RL issues and all, probably my last TL mafia game cause shit hit the fan. so is life, apparently. I misread that post, thought the second part was about XF. Sorry to hear about that though, hold everything works out. For the game though, if you could kill any person other than XF who would you target and why? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
Lol, I should develop a meta for myself like that in case I ever roll scum. The whole argument that marv is never suspected of being scum on day 1 is terrible, but not sure if that points to scumminess. Gets into an argument with Oats, but doesn't really think he is scum in the end. Bit weird, but not rly scummy. bleh, too much to post everything Overall I get the impression that they are contributing. marv's style is a bit confrontational, but that is probably "totes" their style. All in all they move down a spot on my suspicion list. /zebezt | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
/zebezt | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On February 04 2013 06:26 RockHydra wrote: The whole argument that marv is never suspected of being scum on day 1 is terrible, but not sure if that points to scumminess. For what it's worth, I use it every time I'm in trouble on Day 1, and given it's essentially 100% correct, it's not that terrible  Anyways, Nova. Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. Whichever alignment he is, nothing he says can basically be taken seriously because he's not reading the thread properly at all. So my plan is to find out if he's mafia by seeing if the other guys could be town or not. Rock is a little weird. Mostly zebezt. At some point yesterday (page 7 of their filter), we were apparently more suspicious than Aperture, somehow. Weird. Then after filtering me, decides I'm less scummy, and also trusts my word that Stutters does the whole promise-and-fail to contribute thing as town. So it seems I've moved down the scumometer and so has Stutters based on my word, and Aperture by default has moved up a couple of spots. The most disconcerting thing is actually the avoidance of Aperture. He's been a hot topic yet RH seems to be dancing around him a bit. Conclusion? Hmmph. I still can't see much in the way of redeeming features. He made his case on Bin before, but never discussed anyone's conclusions on him. Now he's done the same thing with Stutters. The case has been made but there's absolutely zero interaction with town about it. Grey is back now and doing as much as he was when he was in Italy. Where Aperture looks 1000 times worse than Rock, for example, is that Rock is usually involved and discussing with the thread. Rock at least seems interested in what other people have to say. At the moment I'm inclined to think that Aperture is mafia, and Nova is town by elimination. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Like all those games where there is 1 scum left, but town misslynches like 4 times in a row and scum win, it's because scum put more effort than the actual lazy townies getting mislynched, thus don't appear to be scum in any of those cycles where they keep killing townies. I don't see that effort from Nova or Aperture for instance. Basically if Nova or Aperture are scum, they don't seem to be playing to win or survive longer (they need to survive like 3-4 more turns at least). You could say that everybody else in the game is putting "some effort" in that way, or an effort I can see scum doing to survive longer. Should we take this into account? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
It does apply to Nova though I suppose. /G | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
No, i do not plan on going through any further on theposter or CH, partially because i dont think they're as scummy as others (aperture for example) and partially because i'll pretty much get laughed out again with a what are you smoking. After having read through aperture multiple times, i dunno what to feel. I'll try to sort it out. | ||
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