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Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#687
His play is one big list of contradictions. At least I can stick to my word about attacking him with all my creatures.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 16:40 GMT
#693
On January 29 2013 11:56 BinOnFire wrote:
Dont fear, it was his first post and he is leading into something, you seem AWFULLY quick to attack everybody.
Yes I think that disscussion for Minds Aglow has run its course, but it wasnt all useless.
/Oats

Then you continued to bring it up. Note the time difference between that post and this one.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 16:41 GMT
#694
On January 31 2013 01:39 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 01:37 BinOnFire wrote:
@Marv,
Its not a downside late game, but for example, scum could possibly set it up such that the game ends by day 3 or something with the right cards, and Minds Aglow helps them achieve that.
@Ok Acro/IGrok,
Im feel like im really bad at Mafia and MTG(LOL DISCREDITING MYSELF), but I thought that it was a good idea at the time and I still do.
I dont feel like I was purposefully dragging out the discussion either, if you felt that way, you sure didnt do anything about it.


Do you think this is likely or possible? If it is, surely it would be blatantly anti-town and no-one would have agreed to it.

Someone who's not Bin tell me if I have the wrong end of the stick about this.

-still marvelbabe

There's no way Artanis would allow a 3-turn clock deck.

I asked.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 19:14 GMT
#743
On January 31 2013 03:58 Acrofales wrote:
Alternative scenario is that scum proposed a plan which they thought would give lots of people lots of cards, which they figured they could deal with. Then they saw it would give one person lots of zombies instead. Panic into derp.

Not saying this is what happened, but making up cute QT conversations is not very useful. Most likely is that there was no QT convo between MG and Oats on this. Here's how it goes from town:
MG: K, I got a plan to win this as town. We play blablabla.

Oats: ok, well, I'm not entirely sold on the idea because A, B, C.

MG: counterarguments.

Oats: well, I'm posting A, B and C in the thread anyway.


This convo seems equally unlikely, so they probably never had any convos about it and any cutesy QT convos you invent are a figment of your imagination, no more, no less.

However, I agree that the whole play was probably just not thought out at all, moving it back down to not indicative of alignment. I will reread Bin and see what I think.

/Acro

This is a really good point that I hadn't thought of.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 20:06 GMT
#764
Basically there's two likely possible scumteams: hydra+maverick and hydra+hydra. in the previous sentence, which word appeared more, hydra or maverick? that what kind of player we should focus on to find scum.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 30 2013 22:04 GMT
#813
On January 31 2013 06:38 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
i gots some mtg stuff given that people have been playing stuff:
- the removal of mana burn is stupid. i will update my end-of-post quote as required. looking at you igrok. PS PLEASE TELL ME YOUR DECK IS MANABARBS that would be awesome. actually not because free kills for mafia but i would still give you hilarity points.
- have ninja decks ever been good or is that just a "for fun" thing?

You have no idea how much I wanted Manabarbs.
However, that was not allowed -_-
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 03:16 GMT
#878
My powers are not to be trifled with! Now, which Hydra is Scumbuddy part of?
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 14:07 GMT
#908
The reason you look at hydras to see who is scum is that when we find out which hydra is scum, finding the remaining scum is much easier because you can look at the associations.

Re: the non-hydras, Xfire and Nova both feel weird, but there's no way they are both scum. I'm not even sure that either is. I'll do analysis comparing them when I get off of work.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 14:44 GMT
#931
Before everyone gets too worked up about Deathrite Shaman, yes it can do 2 damage but it can also do other things.

If he does 2 damage he's scum. If he doesn't, well, I'll have to run analysis tonight.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 14:45 GMT
#932
Its weird that everyone is jumping on Xfire for playing deathrite when other people have more pressing threats. He doesn't have the mana to use it today. So we make him tap out tomorrow before combat phase or we kill him.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 14:55 GMT
#935
On January 31 2013 23:50 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 23:44 Aperture Science wrote:
Before everyone gets too worked up about Deathrite Shaman, yes it can do 2 damage but it can also do other things.

If he does 2 damage he's scum. If he doesn't, well, I'll have to run analysis tonight.

I would value your opinion before the attack phase ends. So far you have said shit about Bin, which has not convinced me he's scum. Other than that, I know very little about what you think about anybody. Please do Xfire and/or Suck.

/Acro

I already said I'm going to do Xfire and Nova. But it will have to wait until I get home from work.

Also, unrelated, GreY is almost back from Italy
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 02:33 GMT
#1245
None of you are going to give a shit about this, so go ahead and skip it. I don't have the patience to spam the same point 10 times to get it across, and if I don't then you'll just ignore anything I say (or somehow make it seem scummy).

I've been working 12 hour shifts the last 3 days. Its tax season and everything was due today. If I'd known in advance, I wouldn't have signed up - I got this job a week ago. So yeah, I haven't been as active as I would have liked. I've been trying though, and doing what I can.

You guys are so ridiculous. You claim to hunt based on meta, and then completely ignore mine. I always troll the first 24 hours if not more. I always respond poorly to pressure. And I always do a focused analysis of someone. I'm not good at pressuring, although for most of you that's all you are good at.

After reading through today's stupid shit, and "randomly" discarding the only two cards in my hand of any value, I'm finding it very difficult to give a shit at all. In case it wasn't obvious, I'm running storm. But its a really weird Storm variant, and I literally can't do anything without the proper cards in my hand. And now I don't have them. Fuck me, right?

Cross is scum. Thats pretty obvious. I feel like he doesn't have a very good deck at all, but he claimed scum so... yeah.

Bin still feels off. Oats' shit just feels bad, and MG isn't playing like I know he can in a mason circle (which is what a Hydra is). MG in a Mason Circle always makes sure that his fellows know exactly what he is thinking, and makes sure they agree on everything. Check Aperture Mafia: LINK HERE, CLICK IT.

Those are my picks, and what I've been up to. I'm extremely tired, a big part of which is that I'm physically exhausted. I'm sorry if I get snappy. I don't have any thoughts on the math behind combat, and I can't do anything with this ridiculous, BULLSHIT hand.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#1250
That argument doesn't make logical sense.

If you're both scum, he doesn't have to worry about doing 2 damage to you because you won't take a second hit from the mafia beast.

By the way, if you have another mind's aglow or another join forces card, I'll put all of my mana into it.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 02:49 GMT
#1252
Wait, now I'm not making sense. Fuck I'm tired. The two of you can't both be scum, and he is. Not for the reason you said (because that doesn't make any sense) but because if you were he would have paid into MA T1.

So ok, I believe you are town. Fuck.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#1254
No I don't want to explain my wincon. It isn't anything you expect. I'm a Timmy/Johnny/Melvin so whatever it is expect it to include ridiculous spells, be an incredibly combo, and have ridiculous rules interactions.
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 05:31 GMT
#1259
I'm back. Give me a day to catch up on events and then I will stop playing the "GreY was AFK" card.

-GreYMisT
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 13:13 GMT
#1272
On February 01 2013 21:05 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:41 Nova_Terra wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
So... Nova, if I were to Duress you now, I would find no lands which do not enter the battlefield tapped in your hand?

/Acro

Yes, this is accurate.

Okay. Just wanted to know. I don't know how your deck was supposed to work, but I am going to guess that at the moment it just isn't working?

I am honestly more worried about Aperture. He knew he'd have to discard, yet claims it was random (despite having 24 hours, and prior knowledge that he'd have 24 hours, to discard). All his antics about certain decks being ticking timebombs just waiting for the right combo pieces, seem to refer to his own deck. Additionally, both iGrok and Greymist know too much about MTG to make a combo deck that is completely defenseless until they throw down their combo. The whole thing smells of funk, especially when we already suspect him of being scum.

iGrok: would I find stuff that could help us kill Xfire if I looked at your hand right now?


You would indeed, but in order to use it I need someone else to cast a instant or sorcery that does damage.
-GreY
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#1281
On February 01 2013 22:18 RockHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 22:13 Aperture Science wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:05 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:41 Nova_Terra wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
So... Nova, if I were to Duress you now, I would find no lands which do not enter the battlefield tapped in your hand?

/Acro

Yes, this is accurate.

Okay. Just wanted to know. I don't know how your deck was supposed to work, but I am going to guess that at the moment it just isn't working?

I am honestly more worried about Aperture. He knew he'd have to discard, yet claims it was random (despite having 24 hours, and prior knowledge that he'd have 24 hours, to discard). All his antics about certain decks being ticking timebombs just waiting for the right combo pieces, seem to refer to his own deck. Additionally, both iGrok and Greymist know too much about MTG to make a combo deck that is completely defenseless until they throw down their combo. The whole thing smells of funk, especially when we already suspect him of being scum.

iGrok: would I find stuff that could help us kill Xfire if I looked at your hand right now?


You would indeed, but in order to use it I need someone else to cast a instant or sorcery that does damage.
-GreY

Could you provide more detail? gonzaw/prom are going to 3x Chain Lightning on Crossfire. What can you do with that?


Reverberate
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 13:22 GMT
#1283
So just let me know the biggest spell you guys are going to play, then I'll copy it.

-GreY
We do what we must, because we can.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 01 2013 13:37 GMT
#1287
On February 01 2013 22:30 Acrofales wrote:
Lets hear from Stutters first. Both of us are boggling our minds at a bear deck that can't do anything with 2 mana, so we're not quite sure what to expect from Stutters' deck. But if the whole premise is cheap green creatures, we expect some serious pump cards too.

/Acro


With all of Cross's lands and 1 creature tapped, all we need to do is just attack him with 2 creatures with over 1 power and we have our 1 damage. With all his lands tapped there is virtually nothing he can do to prevent this from occurring.

Or is your damage calculation also taking into account the attack phase and his goblin?
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