Newbie Mini Mafia XXXII - Page 36

On December 04 2012 15:59 Kickstart wrote:
Right, I know it is early in the game but I am just going to throw this out there and try to make it as comprehensive as I can to try and get some real conversation going. So far I have some suspicions on Yamato and Rad. (I will also note that as an aside that Rad defended Yamato against one of my questions but association cases are bad day 1, just interesting that there are two people I find suspicious and one is defending the other.)

Yamato77
As I have stated before, I find Yamato's incessant policy talk a bit suspicious and that was the first thing to draw my attention to him. I have to look at it and see what his possible intentions could be. As town, policy talk is ok to start with, but I think it is best to say what needs to be said and not dwell on it much, where as scum would try and drown the thread with as much policy talk as possible as it is really unlikely to gain any useful information from it.
Taking a look at Yamato's filter shows that most of it is policy talk and then he has an exchange with Axl. Now on his points against Axl I am in agreement. Axl is posting way too much in the way of "I am a noob and everyone else here is better than me" and things of that sort, and I too expect this to end. But I am not sure if the way Yamato reacted to this is town oriented. I can't help but feel that from a town perspective, someone would be a bit more helpful and not putting so much pressure on him and then throwing a vote on him when he doesn't respond. To elaborate a bit:

So far Axl is putting out this vibe of being a noobie. Now I won't say town or scum because he is not doing a great job of answering questions and is really posting way too much about how noobie he thinks he is. To me, a town would look at this and react by first encouraging Axl but then pushing him slightly. A good example would be to give some support but to remind him that he needs to just post what he is thinking and why for the sake of town clarity. Here is my post directed at Axl:



I gave as much support as I could but I also made it clear that it is important for Axl to post what he is thinking and why; and note that other players reacted in much the same way as I did.

Now look at the way Yamato reacts to Axl:









This is almost the exact opposite reaction that I and pretty much everyone else in the thread have displayed in regards to Axl. Yamato is being really aggressive (I used the term badgering earlier). He doesn't see that there is a timid first timer and try and be encouraging but productive, he instead seems to try and take this opportunity to attack and throw his vote onto a noobie town.


Rad
On Rad only one thing has stuck out to me so far. He took a post (this time by me) and immediately jumped on it. I made a post earlier joking that we should lynch oats for his play last game (was just kidding Oats <3 ) which was followed by a "jkjk" post. In my mind Rad was reading through the thread, saw the first post and then replied without even bothering to read further (where he would have found the "jkjk"). Again I look at this and think a) what would a town player do, and then, b) what would a scum player do. For me the initial town reaction would be to just say something like "wow that is really dumb, why would you focus on something that happened last game" and then he would move on (unless the person was for whatever reason really serious about it - which seems very unlikely). The initial scum reaction would be to see it as an opportunity to attack.
Here are the three posts, first two by me and third is his response to my first post:







Now this could be read as a post from either alignment, but to me I lean scum on his post. As I said I would expect a town player to just dismiss it out of hand (look at Oats post where he is jokes back with me about not holding grudges from previous games etc) and move on unless I was serious about it and pushed it further, but Rad seems to really want to push this and looks like he is trying to make a case of it by preempting his objection with "...rather than scum hunting and lynching your biggest scum read?"

Unfortunately I immediately revealed that I was joking and then the whole thing was dropped, otherwise I could have maybe pressed it a bit and gotten more of a reaction from him, but again I view his initial reaction as slightly scummy.

/serious portion

And just for lolz my day 1 association case that I promised: (this is not serious respond to my other points that I made above this you jerks):