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On December 06 2012 07:23 GreYMisT wrote: I would very much like to know where you went during my game PMd | ||
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 /out Preemptive /sitout per Chrono modkill The stars better fucking align again, that's all I'm saying. | ||
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What, you afraid I gunna git u sucka? <3 | ||
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The post in question is pretty obviously a joke. As Adam pointed out, thrawn has pointed out in past games that he disagrees with the notion of millers claiming because he doesn't know how to approach deciding if the claim is real or not...so why would he claim miller as any alignment? So our options here are that thrawn is A) town and joking, B) town and fake-claiming, C) scum and joking, or D) scum and fake-claiming. Given what Adam posted about thrawn's stance on self-aware millers claiming, I'm willing to rule out fake-claiming (town OR scum), so that leaves us with town joking or scum joking. Between those two, I'd say that thrawn is more likely town than scum. It seems that scum would be more afraid to jokingly claim something that's going to draw attention to him, if not by virtue of the claim alone then because it's not possible for him to even know that. | ||
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What do you think about thrawn? Your first post on the subject seemed to indicate suspicion, while your second seemed to elude to a more "stupid town" read. Which is it? And why are you playing like you don't give a shit? | ||
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On December 10 2012 10:57 marvellosity wrote: please tell me you're not going to be this exceptionally dull this game. :/ I thought we were havin a good time here. | ||
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##Unvote The case on jay seems to revolve around his lack of commitment to his "scumread" on thrawn based on the miller claim. First of all, I have to say - I don't find that to be particularly damning. First of all, the posts in question were from the first six hours of D1. Secondly, it occurs to me that "I don't really like early bandwagons" is more likely to come from a town player than a scum player. Think about it - while Clarity claims that's "classic scum mindset", is that classic scum play? I agree that scum players tend to not like early bandwagons, but do they come into the thread citing that as their reasoning for avoiding voting for one of their "scumreads"? I think not, considering how it's "classic scum mindset" ya know? To be honest, I can see town jay acting the way he's acting regarding thrawn. Not interested in lynching jay today. "But VE, who would you like to lynch today?" Calm down bish I'm getting there. Based on what I'm seeing, I think Vivax and Palmar could be scum together. First of all, Vivax has this problem with my interest level? Goes so far as to throw times of posts into the mix to appear that he's carefully watching the thread...except, Palmar has shown that he not only doesn't care about the game, he doesn't care about his own alignment in the game. Unfortunately, I've seen Palmar do this as town, so I'm not putting much stock into Palmar's end of it. But Vivax....Vivax is in here actively trying to put suspicion on me for having a townread on thrawn. Literally. I even explained in detail why I thought thrawn was joking, which by the way, he was by his own tongue. I think Vivax is trying to fake contribution. I think he's trying to appear active while doing nothing of value. He claims that in spite of his "analysis" of my actions, he'd STILL vote for thrawn, based on the stale-ass fake-claim. I'm calling bullshit. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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Perhaps he feels responsible for mislynches in the past? I don't know WHY he said that...I just feel like the statement is more likely to come from town than scum. I didn't say anything LIKE "too scummy to be scum". I pointed out that his posts read more town than scum to me. What do you think about Vivax? I want him to hang. | ||
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Things I agree with: Adam Is Scummy While he hasn't been doing much scumhunting, at least he can't be bothered to defend himself against accusations that crop up about him. Also the disconnect between the suspicion of debears/trying to convince debears that he's not scum definitely looks like floundering scum who can't keep his story straight. Clarity = ObvTown I don't necessarily agree with Clarity's case on Jay, and I was surprised to hear it called "good" by both Bugs and Palmar, but it's a case and it took effort I'm not sure scum would be putting into "trying to look active". "Trying to look active" are what Vivax and Adam were doing earlier. Clarity is obviously active and reading and drawing conclusions. I'm going to go REread the case on Jay before I comment further on him, but Clarity is probably town. Things I disagree with: Marv Looks Town Marv looks like marv. AND WHILE THAT LOOKS DAMN GOOD, it doesn't look like town. At least, not to me....not yet. I'm strongly and vehemently NULL on Marv. Vivax Doesn't Look Scummy Screw you buddy, yes he does. I'll show you. VE Being Wrong Is Towntell I'm wrong in AT LEAST equal measure when I'm scum, you sneaky bastard. Don't wanna lynch Palmar today. At least, not unless he wants to lynch me. Then he sucks and can eat rope. That goes for all you guys, actually. So yeah...gonna reread the case on Jay, see what I see in Vivax' filter, maybe do a little reading up on some others and check back in in a bit. | ||
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On December 11 2012 11:16 marvellosity wrote: also VE: "strongly and vehemently null". A contradiction in terms, dear? ^^ also debears, Clarity is right. Your townread on Palmar is/was hilariously ludicrous. Not where you're concerned. It's an agitation thing. Like..."MARV!!!!! GAAHHHHHH!!!!! WHY CAN'T I READ/TRUST/STOP THINKING ABOUT YOU?!?!?" Now go away, I'm doin something. Something important. | ||
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At least, that's how I interpreted debears' posts on the matter. I actually got that feeling when Adam posted that last bit, but debears beat me to it while I was looking for an Admiral Ackbar pic to post.  | ||
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After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote: Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote: I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax (Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: jaybrundage I'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings. | ||
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Jeez, and being called out for inactivity by Palmar fucking stings bro. | ||
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So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go through and read the cases on Adam and Tunkeg, then I'm gonna go filter the guys. With all of that fresh in mind, along with my recent filtering/case of jayb, I'll decide who among them I feel the best about lynching, because I think those three are our best bets for a lynch based on the wagons right now. Anyone concerned about my activity, tough titties. I'm here now, if you wanna say something, say it to my FACE! | ||
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CURSE YOU DEBEARS!!!! CURSE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!!! | ||
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On December 12 2012 02:44 thrawn2112 wrote: VE: what I don't like is that you know enough about what's going on in the thread to know that bugs/palmer have called you out, yet you claim you dont have an opinion on tunkeg/adam because you havent looked at them. does "haven't looked into" mean you haven't read the whole thread yet, or what? It means I haven't filtered them and read interactions I found suspicious in context. I have a preliminary read on both of them (Adam = scummy, Tunkeg = null leaning town) but without filtering them, I'm the mostest certain of a jaybrundage lynch. | ||
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On December 11 2012 17:18 Tunkeg wrote: So you want me to do dumb things is that what you are saying. I know you treat this game like a schooldebate, where winning the arguement is more important than actually being right. And I know you like to twist and turn stuff to make your arguements look good. But that don't fly with me, stick to facts (like: Tunkeg is not playing exactly like he did in this and this game), don't try to strengthen your arguements with lies (Like you now saying you think I was scumhunting in those games, when you clearly stated how useless it was back then). If you stick with what is true you should be able to lynch me if I were scum. If you start presenting lies and twisting words you might get me lynched even though I am town. This post right here is why I'm not interested in lynching Tunkeg today. wherebugsgo is very opinionated about the play of others, and isn't a bit shy about calling out their play if he sees it as "bad" or "dumb". This post by Tunkeg seems genuinely confused by Bugs' assertion that his play this game is unlike his play in other, town games because Bugs has, in the past, called his play "bad" and "dumb". It seems scum would be more pissed off at the contradiction than confused - that scum would incredulously OMGUS such an assertion because it's clearly in contrast with what he had said at the time. His reads post reads EXACTLY like the "town" example Bugs provided, aside from the whole giving up and "me flipping town will confirm Palmar as town" nonsense...which could be contrived or honest - but frankly I'm not in the business of figuring out which today because I don't think Tunkeg is a good lynch today. Tunkeg's filter isn't spectacular, but it's way better than like, Bluelightz for example...or grush. I'd be more interested in a grush or Bluelightz lynch than Tunkeg. Certainly jaybrundage and Adam. I'm not touching Tunkeg with a 10 foot pole today. And Bugs, THAT is a derail bish.  Now, onto Adam. | ||
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##Vote: Adam Baaaaaaahhhhh. | ||
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On December 12 2012 07:47 Vivax wrote: Debby, yours is probably the most persistent tunneling I have witnessed in my short unsuccessful mafia career, I hope you hit the right spot. Baaahhhhhh! + Show Spoiler + Sheep for "Me three!" | ||
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Marvy baby you scum? | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:07 thrawn2112 wrote: wow i summoned adam Try summoning Bugs - I'd expect him to be in here calling us all fucking assholes or something. | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote: Alright, seeing as I am the leading vote getter today, Ill get some reads out for you guys so my death isn't a complete waste. Obvious town to me: Palmar, Clarity, dabears, Marv, Thrawn and Vivax. Jaybrundage Jay is lurky when he plays scum, and right now he's fitting the bill. In Arkham City I fell into the trap of thinking that he was too scummy to be scum, and largely ignored him for the entire game until he obviously fakeclaimed and outed himself. This game he looks mostly the same here, ultra lurky, and non-contributive. He's jumped onto my wagon with the reason of " Id rather lynch bluelightz, but I don't want a no lynch". Probably scum. Bluelightz Bluelightz is another one that ultra lurks when he is scum. He was literally afraid to post in Student mafia after replacing in and just sat around in the scum QT. His play in Aperture mafa as scum was similar to his play this game, he throws out a couple of reads and then lurks until someone takes an interest in him. Probably scum. WBG He looks to be bending his reads to please palmar, which is never a good sign from someone as headstrong as WBG. Look at his attitude towards myself, early game he has no problem with my gameplay, after declaring nobody in the thread looks suspicious and turning his attention towards the lurkers. Then, palmar posts his video and I become a suspect, he adds me to his list of scum targets, but with flimsy reasoning and 'meta' but would still rather push other people. Probably scum. Tunkeg Tunkeg is an interesting one. His emo routine after being questioned is not what I would consider 'townie', but his list of reads is at least somewhat helpful and actually looks somewhat similar to mine. I'd keep him alive for now, but keep an eye on him, as he so happily points out, we have no idea what to expect from his scum play. Mostly Null, make him work to show his alignment. VisceraEyes VE has mostly lurked today and really hasn't put much into this game. He's capable of this as either town or scum. He seems pretty content to sheep most of Palmars reads this game, something I wouldn't expect from him but I do like his case on jaybrundage. Mostly null, some small contributions. Djodref Djodref's biggest scum tell from Mario Mafia was that he did absolutely no scum hunting and sat around setup speculating even at LYLO. He's pushed some cases this game, which I consider points in his favour, but he's also back flipped his read on me as soon as Palmar mentioned both of us in his video. He's spent a majority of day 1 defending himself from bad cases, and I think he's capable of being a good contributing townie, leaning town on Djodref. Anyone else that I haven't got to either wasn't memorable or isn't putting in enough effort. ##Vote Jaybrundage GOD DAMNIT I FUCKING LOVE THESE READS!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME ADAM?!?!?! | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:16 marvellosity wrote: my post at the top of your list was heavy sarcasm, Vivax. And my point about whose line is that he was useful there and he isn't here. learn to comperehend please. VE, I don't know what you're smoking, those reads are unemotional as shit. What do you mean unemotional? What does that have to do with anything? | ||
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I love the WHOLE THING marv. But the right play is lynching him....right? | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:23 Djodref wrote: And, seriously guys, you still prefer to lynch Adam to jay after Adam's latest post ? Counter wagon ! GO GO GO ! ##Unvote ##Vote jay STOP IT YOU FUCK | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:33 debears wrote: Honestly if we could quadra lynch BL, Munk, Adam, and jay I'd be down QUADRAKILL God I keep fucking forgetting Munk is in this game. :/ All I know about the guy is that Bugs doesn't like him. I remember NOTHING about his content - only that Bugs wants him dead. | ||
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On December 12 2012 09:52 wherebugsgo wrote: LOL worst claim ever This is your default response to any claim, a-hole. LOL | ||
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LEAD ME WARLEADER!! | ||
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On December 12 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote: i request that you video yourself saying that for my pleasure Seconded! | ||
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Also, you two being all buddy buddy without me hurts my feelings. Maybe I'll just be buddy buddy with Hapa instead! HI HAPA! WELCOME TO THE GAME! I THINK YOU'RE WAAAAAAY BETTER THAN MARV AND PALMAR! AND SOOOO MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE TOO! | ||
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Neat. Fuck it I'm just gonna read the thread on my phone then. Fuck y'all. | ||
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I don't believe that Adam, in a desperation act, called out three people on his team. Therefor, it is my opinion that at least one of wherebugsgo, jaybrundage and Bluelightz, probably two, are town. This puts me at a crossroads because I had both wherebugsgo and jaybrundage as most likely scum before the flip. @Clarity Re: Bluelightz Case - Going back and reading it again, I don't like it very much. It's strewn with true statements (scum care about how they look more than town, Bluelightz calls X strange instead of scummy, etc) but has too many suppositions for my liking. For instance, why is Blue calling something strange instead of scummy alignment indicative? Why can't it just be strange? Why does the fact that he found further reasoning for voting Adam NECESSARILY mean that he cares about looking like a sheep? Why can he not have just found further corroborating evidence and posted it? To be honest, I'm not sure what I think about Bluelightz myself, but your case isn't convincing me of much - only that Bluelightz is playing, as marv said, like Bluelightz. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but work, lynch, sleep, etc. I liked it before the flip - not so much after the flip. Especially considering Adam put Blue as one of his "probable scum". Of the three people I mentioned at the top of this post, I think Blue is the least likely to flip scum. Not saying much considering I think jay and Bugs have VERY HIGH chances of flipping scum, but Blue's the least likely in my opinion. | ||
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You don't even read my fucking posts when you're town because you think I'm a fucking joke so thanks for just CLAIMING scum to me. That makes things easier tomorrow for everyone. | ||
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It looked like he was town and giving his last reads. As for why I think you're scum, there are a few reasons. I just gave one of them - you're actually communicating with me. As town, I find you generally CAN'T STAND playing with me because my means and methods of finding scum are so wildly different than yours. I find you generally IGNORE what I post, unless it's something outlandish like a bad claim when you're FORCED to comment. As scum, you're much more inclined to interact with me. Probably because you think my reads are bad and I'll be a good person to either call out for shitty cases or sheep onto for a mislynch. Either way, you interact with me, in particular, much more as scum. And fucking here we are Bugs. I find nothing condemning in your decision to push Tunkeg over Adam, as I did the same thing with jay...however you were NOT around at lynch time trying to push Tunkeg. Sure, okay, RL. But honestly you're one of the strongest-willed characters IN TEAM LIQUID HISTORY. Do you realize we almost no-lynched yesterday? Not your fault of course, but it just seems to me like a town Bugs would give more of a shit about the lynch than that. | ||
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Bugs flipping town is obviously a shock, but the good news is that we weren't left with nothing overnight. Remember when Adam claimed Vigilante? On December 12 2012 09:47 Adam4167 wrote: Alright I was hoping that I could talk my way out of this lynch without having to claim, but apparently that does not seem to be possible. I am a Vigilante. Give me a chance to prove i'm town tonight. Pssssttt....there's emphasis in there. "...tonight." Adam's claim heavily implies the existence of a Scum Vigilante. That being said. On December 13 2012 13:33 Clarity_nl wrote: You might be. I'm more convinced on a scum BL though, bugs having a townread on you also makes me hesitate. Don't be ridiculous btw, I'm not scum and there's like a 1000 reasons why. I shot the guy who was probably going to get lynched tomorrow and who I agreed with looked like scum. This post is extremely suspicious to me for a couple of reasons. 1) That's possibly the most atrocious justification for shooting someone ever. If he was probably going to be lynched tomorrow, then WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU SHOOT HIM? It doesn't make any sense, because if most everyone can agree that he looks scummy then we can lynch him. It just doesn't make sense from a townie perspective. From a scum perspective however, it removes Bugs' ability to defend himself and possibly avoid getting lynched. 2) The second part of the statement reads like scum trying to fit in. "...and who I agreed with looked like scum". If you're town, the assumption is that if you shoot someone, it's because you think they look like scum. It feels like over-justifying his shot. ##Vote: Clarity_nl The fact that there has been no counterclaim holds no relevance - if we have a town vig who didn't shoot, there'd be no incentive to claim because it's not a guaranteed trade as there could also be more than one town vig - and the implication of Adam's claim coupled with Clarity's A) shitty target and B) suspicious justification is more than enough to lynch Clarity today. I think he's scum. I wish Bugs had told us who he jailed. Any crumb-hunters out there wanna take a stroll through his filter? | ||
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1) That means nothing because this is a semi-closed setup. There could be more than one town vigi, so the counterclaim thing is not relevant. There's little risk in a scum Vigi claiming a shot he ACTUALLY took because we have no way of knowing if they're scum or town. 2) Why would Mafia vigi one of the stronger town players? So he can't defend himself and avoid the lynch? Maybe turn it around on one of them? Scum removing a vet from the game in a NON LYNCH situation is actually extremely strong. | ||
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2) The fact that it was Bugs makes the alternative not likely. I think it's much more likely that scum Clarity shot strong townie Bugs at an opportune time for scum to make a play like that than a town Clarity shooting a veteran scumhunter without giving him a chance to defend himself and find us scum. And regardless of whether you believe Clarity is scum or town, that makes the scum KP debears yes? You're telling me that you believe that scum shot at debears and ONLY debears? | ||
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On December 13 2012 18:26 Djodref wrote: @ VE Stop speculating, show us that Clarity is scum outside this claim. Dude that's a response to Hapa don't tell me what to do. I'll tell you what I think of Clarity's play when I look at his filter. Right now I'm combing through ~Daypost stuff to see what else I missed, then I'll go look at his filter. | ||
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Palmar are you at least following what I'm saying? | ||
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Fine I'm going to bed. | ||
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On December 13 2012 22:32 marvellosity wrote: What drugs are you on?? If you take out the possible existence of a mafia vigi, Clarity's shot was clearly town - he shot the primary scumread of the thread. In addition, Clarity is prone to sheeping strong players in some situations, notably me - he sheeped my Z-Bo case in Mario, he sheeped my syllo vote in Chrono. The fact that a mafia vigi is now possible doesn't suddenly make him scum, Hapa said well enough that it didn't make sense. To the bold, given I'm the only one who's claimed roleblock (I think?) it's fairly obvious. Otherwise this would fit the bill: JUST WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT?! ADAM CLAIMED VIGI DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ MARV?! WHY WOULD I DISCOUNT THE POSSIBLE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI?! ADAM'S FUCKING CLAIM DIRECTLY...[bigDIRECTLY[/big] IMPLIES THE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW! Think about it, why would Adam claim Vigi? Why wouldn't he claim like...Jailkeeper? Why not claim VT? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE for Adam to claim Vigi AND THEN SAY HE CAN PROVE IT when he's a Goon unless the scum team HAS a Vigilante! Fuck marv, I expected this kind bullheadedness from Palmar, but et tu?!!? ET TU MARV?!?! | ||
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For what it's worth, I'd lynch into Tunkeg, Djo if I couldn't lynch Clarity. Djo for his attempts at counterwagoning the scum lynch, and Tunkeg for his interaction with Bugs. It's clear that Bugs was not going to let Tunkeg go, and I'd bet anything that's why scum killed him. But like I said, my vote is yours. I'm proven bad this game. Fix it. | ||
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Catching up | ||
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On December 14 2012 14:16 Z-BosoN wrote: Thrawn, you've been suggesting how I'm not posting as much as usual for quite a while, but that's pretty different from me actually being a lurker. It also has nothing to do with me being scum. ![[image loading]](http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/biggums.png) | ||
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OMG this game is so frustrating. XD I'll rewrite it, never fear. I just saw that post by Zbos and lol'd. He was someone that was in my post, so I thought it relevant totally forgetting I hadn't posted yet. God I'm an idiot. | ||
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From D1: + Show Spoiler [Vivax] + On December 11 2012 04:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Yea, vivax's post seems too much like "look at me trying hard to scumhunt" The lack of follow-up also worries me. Never follows up on this. + Show Spoiler [debears] + On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote: @debears I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion. You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy. I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it.. Defends Adam here as an added bonus. + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo] + On December 11 2012 04:18 Z-BosoN wrote: That won't do. Why did you say 80% chance yatta yatta here? Why not give the explanation you gave later on when ppl started asking questions? I don't even know what the relevance is here. Bugs percentage is completely arbitrary anyway. + Show Spoiler [Munk-E] + On December 11 2012 04:50 Z-BosoN wrote: It's Z-Boson. It's funny you should mention Munk-E, because he has a town read on WBG, even though he disagrees with WBG's logic. Does anyone find this post right here: Any close to being normal? He then votes for Djodref after making a big case, only to drop it and vote for Tunkeg. Interestingly enough, he does so in the name of consolidation, yet is one of the only people not on the Adam wagon. He can say he thought Adam was town all he wants: he only unvoted Djodref in the name of consolidation though, and consolidate he did not. He pushed a counter-wagon. And if he wanted to do that, he could have stayed on Djodref. ##Unvote: Clarity_nl ##Vote: ZBoson | ||
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His "martyr reads" and Adam's reads ended up being strikingly similar, but Tunkeg's came first and Adam flipped scum. He MIGHT be scum, but I'm not really interested in lynching him today. I prefer to see ZBoson flip before making a final judgement call on Tunkeg. If I can't get a ZBoson lynch and Tunkeg is the only other alternative however, I would vote for Tunkeg. | ||
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Just throwin that out there in case you lied and are actually reading my posts. | ||
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Oh man, selective humbleness. Palmar you're a treasure. | ||
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Djodref I want to lynch ZBo but would settle for Tunkeg. | ||
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On December 15 2012 04:30 Clarity_nl wrote: What do you think about BL and jay currently? That's the hard question I didn't study for :/ I fell asleep writing my Djodref analysis last night and both Bz and jay were on the list of filters I wanted to get to. Jay has rubbed me the wrong way all day and now he's pushing candidates I like and without fear of going against town sentiment...need to filter. Blue is...hard to remember much of. I know I didn't like your initial case but I can't recall like anything of his play since. Need to filter. And I'm phoneposting. So yeah...have to get back with you. | ||
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I'm fine on ZBo if there's no danger of shenannies. | ||
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On December 15 2012 09:58 marvellosity wrote: nervous much ? | ||
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Like, I wasn't super convinced he was scum myself, but what the fuck. I'm rereading....fucking AGAIN. | ||
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What's worse, I don't even have time to convince you guys...all I can do is read dump and pray because I have to go to work. UGH this is frustrating. I'm working on something now...just hang tight. | ||
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N1 I checked Bugs…and was pretty fucking shitty when Clarity claimed a shot on him. I checked Djodref last night after much deliberation. It was between he and ZBoson, and rather than check MY scum read, I opted to check the rest of town's scum read instead - Palmar had a scum read on him, and town seemed pretty primed to lynch him last I had read. And as it turns out, Djodref came back town. If I'd known he was gonna go commando on the fucking thread THIS phase, I wouldn't have fucking bothered…but there you have it. So: a lynch into myself or Djodref is a mislynch. Good luck with that one guys. I suggest ZBoson because I honestly and truly believe he's scum…and if I can get a spare minute I'll try and convince you guys...in the meantime, my next post will give my reads on the remaining players. | ||
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ZBoson jaybrundage Hapahauli grush Bluelightz thrawn Vivax marv Djodref | ||
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I'm sorry town, I've failed you. | ||
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This sucks...I wish I could have been here yesterday. | ||
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On December 18 2012 08:42 thrawn2112 wrote: VE that boson vote is very scummy.... he;s not being lynched today I don't know what else to say - Hapa and Jay are both RIGHT BEHIND Zbo...I'd lynch either one of them other than myself. Between the two, I prefer Jay. No one but Hapa is talking about lynching Jay. Like.....what would YOU have me do thrawn? | ||
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On December 18 2012 08:44 Z-BosoN wrote: Ok, guys, VE's play is in total fucking contrast of his townie game. Palmar is almost sure he's scum. He has no crumb. Even in LC mafia he had some sort of crumb. His push on me makes no fucking sense from a townie perspective. Refer to Liquid City mafia. It's risky for a cop to counter-claim right now, he'll get nked with little chance to actually investigate. Everything points to VE being scum. The alternative to that is a no-lynch, which gets us nowhere. I have to go right now, so I'll take his bluff. ##Vote VisceraEyes This is funny, coming from someone who wanted to lynch me for the latter part of LC because of how "scummy as shit" I was in that game, as town, BUT OKAY BRO!!!  | ||
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Good job scumteam, whoever you are. | ||
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On December 14 2012 15:40 VisceraEyes wrote: ZBoson sure likes shoveling shit at people he has no interest in lynching. From D1: + Show Spoiler [Vivax] + On December 11 2012 04:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Yea, vivax's post seems too much like "look at me trying hard to scumhunt" The lack of follow-up also worries me. Never follows up on this. + Show Spoiler [debears] + On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote: @debears I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion. You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy. I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it.. Defends Adam here as an added bonus. + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo] + On December 11 2012 04:18 Z-BosoN wrote: That won't do. Why did you say 80% chance yatta yatta here? Why not give the explanation you gave later on when ppl started asking questions? I don't even know what the relevance is here. Bugs percentage is completely arbitrary anyway. + Show Spoiler [Munk-E] + On December 11 2012 04:50 Z-BosoN wrote: It's Z-Boson. It's funny you should mention Munk-E, because he has a town read on WBG, even though he disagrees with WBG's logic. Does anyone find this post right here: Any close to being normal? He then votes for Djodref after making a big case, only to drop it and vote for Tunkeg. Interestingly enough, he does so in the name of consolidation, yet is one of the only people not on the Adam wagon. He can say he thought Adam was town all he wants: he only unvoted Djodref in the name of consolidation though, and consolidate he did not. He pushed a counter-wagon. And if he wanted to do that, he could have stayed on Djodref. ##Unvote: Clarity_nl ##Vote: ZBoson I did, it's right here. And I've got a little secret about Palmar...HE'S WRONG A LOT THIS GAME! And...what about Clarity other town games? | ||
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Because he scum. And I not. :d | ||
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Town needs this. They need this to see just how wrong Palmar can be WHILE trying. People have this notion that he's infallible, that he's never wrong. This game will serve as an excellent example in later games, if nothing else. | ||
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Hey guys we won <3 | ||
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Cross that off the bucket-list. | ||
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