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On December 18 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
@ jay
Riddle my this.
You like to sheep Palmar. This guy told us to lynch VE and me.
Today, you were definitively convinced that I was scum. But you soft-defended VE.
Then you are suddenly certain that VE lynch is a mislynch. I still don't understand why. The lynch was supposedly to easy.
What I don't understand is that when someone claim cop without breadcrumb and stuff and gives a green check on your top scumread, you just believe him.
I would expect town jay to have VE and me pinned as mafia at this point.
I'm just misunderstood : /
Often times its hard to follow my train of thought. But bear with me i tried to give my reasoning.
In this post.
On December 18 2012 10:16 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm im trying to think where my logic went wrong. I think part of it was not really being here for the Tunkeg lynch and that didn't go well at all. So i assumed that cause you guys didnt have my vote and he already was going to b lynched that it was a mislynch. But regardless i fucked up.
It would seem obvious that I would be the next lynch candidate. Hell I would vote me. I got one hell of a job ahead of me getting out of this : /
Also I was under the assumption that scum wouldnt vote for VE as you guys may not of pushed it hard enough. But obvious a scum was bussing VE, So my math was off.
I had wrongly placed conviction, but what can ya do.
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On December 11 2012 16:00 VisceraEyes wrote:I changed my mind. I think jaybrundage is scum. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 10:29 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days? VE gimme your thoughts on thrash After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly. Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing. That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers. Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:44 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 10:07 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:01 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days? Ikr Anyways Djo the video was a response to the question, but a fun way of doing it Have you not seen the Matrix? Did you not watch the video? Yes, I guess you were saying that your vote was not real with the video. What was your motivation with your first vote on thrawn ? What is your real take on thrawn fakeclaim ? To get the voting rally started of course. Break the ice sonAnd it's strange. It would make no sense from a town perspective. His PM can't tell him he's a miller, because they aren't self aware. So from town - he was joking and he knew millers weren't self aware. Just did it for shits and giggles scum - he claimed miller without checking first. I just don't see a scum being that reckless, but i'm sure if he's town he'll put in a productive day 1. Or, he could've knew someone would interpret him as a joking townie if he's scum. and the wifomwifomwfiom I'm the first to vote in the voting thread  So you see thrawn as a joking town or a reckless scum (less likely) or scum using WIFOM. Okay... I personally can see a motivation for a town player to fakeclaim like this (serious motivation) that would make sense but I'm waiting for him to explain it first so I can check it matches my expectation or not. At the exception of thrawn, do you have any comment to make on other players in this early game ? Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote:On December 11 2012 01:35 Clarity_nl wrote:On December 11 2012 01:32 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:Hey marv, you've explain why we shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons we should vote a someone? On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'm ok on how he explained his 'slips'. My only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:
"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."
I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't want to ruffle feathers, but he's not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that. His response reminds me of my own scum game. I showed no emotion that game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone's feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt. @ JayI read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either. The thing is, you say you don't want to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he's the only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It's an easy way out. It seems like common sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i avoid em? Im not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : / I call people dumb or idiots? So other than Thrawn, who is an easy bandwagon to you so should be avoided, who stands out as scummy? I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax(Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: jaybrundageI'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings.
And ofc VE would of been completly willing to vote me to save his scum buddy.
On December 12 2012 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm willing to vote jay over Adam.
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/\ Also VE writes a huge case on me this is Day 1. Would scum really both try to deflect the lynch over to there scum buddy?
I was the townie that almost got lynched day one.
Here is Adams read. Indicating that im scum. Then subsequently voting for me.
On December 12 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:
Alright, seeing as I am the leading vote getter today, Ill get some reads out for you guys so my death isn't a complete waste.
Obvious town to me:
Palmar, Clarity, dabears, Marv, Thrawn and Vivax.
Jaybrundage
Jay is lurky when he plays scum, and right now he's fitting the bill. In Arkham City I fell into the trap of thinking that he was too scummy to be scum, and largely ignored him for the entire game until he obviously fakeclaimed and outed himself. This game he looks mostly the same here, ultra lurky, and non-contributive. He's jumped onto my wagon with the reason of " Id rather lynch bluelightz, but I don't want a no lynch". Probably scum.
Bluelightz
Bluelightz is another one that ultra lurks when he is scum. He was literally afraid to post in Student mafia after replacing in and just sat around in the scum QT. His play in Aperture mafa as scum was similar to his play this game, he throws out a couple of reads and then lurks until someone takes an interest in him. Probably scum.
WBG
He looks to be bending his reads to please palmar, which is never a good sign from someone as headstrong as WBG. Look at his attitude towards myself, early game he has no problem with my gameplay, after declaring nobody in the thread looks suspicious and turning his attention towards the lurkers. Then, palmar posts his video and I become a suspect, he adds me to his list of scum targets, but with flimsy reasoning and 'meta' but would still rather push other people. Probably scum.
Tunkeg
Tunkeg is an interesting one. His emo routine after being questioned is not what I would consider 'townie', but his list of reads is at least somewhat helpful and actually looks somewhat similar to mine. I'd keep him alive for now, but keep an eye on him, as he so happily points out, we have no idea what to expect from his scum play. Mostly Null, make him work to show his alignment.
VisceraEyes
VE has mostly lurked today and really hasn't put much into this game. He's capable of this as either town or scum. He seems pretty content to sheep most of Palmars reads this game, something I wouldn't expect from him but I do like his case on jaybrundage. Mostly null, some small contributions.
Djodref
Djodref's biggest scum tell from Mario Mafia was that he did absolutely no scum hunting and sat around setup speculating even at LYLO. He's pushed some cases this game, which I consider points in his favour, but he's also back flipped his read on me as soon as Palmar mentioned both of us in his video. He's spent a majority of day 1 defending himself from bad cases, and I think he's capable of being a good contributing townie, leaning town on Djodref.
Anyone else that I haven't got to either wasn't memorable or isn't putting in enough effort.
##Vote Jaybrundage
Also VE writes a huge case on me this is Day 1. Would scum really both try to deflect the lynch over to there scum buddy?
I was the townie that almost got lynched day one.
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On December 19 2012 03:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
jay, all this doesn't help you. in fact it's having the opposite effect on me.
who do you think is scum? write stuff about that instead
At this point i dont know. Djo was my inital scum read. But he has been posting alot better. Although If palmar was right we could have them both being scum. VE did after all claim a town read on Djo. Something ot think about
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On December 19 2012 04:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, note that VE voted jay when jay already had like 4 votes.
Same way he voted Adam when he had 7 votes.
Only on Adam, since he really couldn't add anything (or got lazy), he just went and voted without a case.
Of course, I'm not judging you by VE. I'm judging you by your play, and how zero sense it makes coming from a townie.
Not like it makes much sense from a scum perspective really.
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Its not optimal play for either party. However i only said to vote you cause thats what VE suggested, and i thought he was a townie cop and hes also a vet.
Also i added that i didnt care who they put there votes on i just was really sure that VE was town, because of my fucked up math.
Got my thousand posts and a corsair :3
I miss my dragoon tho 
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OH SHIT i edited im sorry i just noticed my thousand posts and added the part about it wasnt even thinking. SORRY
CAN YOU NOT BAN ME HOST
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Hi there im gonna be mislynched today
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: / you're mean im not being whiney im just stated the most likely outcome of today.
Fun fact i have never been shot by mafia as town
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On December 19 2012 13:30 Djodref wrote:
@ jay
Do you have anything to claim ?
Oh yes.
Ahem
I'm a vanilla townie
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Im curious. What are you going to do when i flip town.
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How about we not lynch me. Are there any other good candidates.
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Hm i wanna say Z-boson from my gut read. But its nothing else besides that.
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your gonna have to wait a bit. I wont have time till after sleep/work. I try to fit it in tmw
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Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 02:16 Z-BosoN wrote:Regarding jay. First of all, I don't agree with his WIFOM defense. He's on a team with VE, lord of WIFOMs, and if he acknowledges it would be the "dumbest" play as scum, then that's a play he would be willing to do. If we don't take WIFOM into consideration, the only thing that results is his actions - trying to stop a VE lynch, which is 100% mafia agenda. He was also quite quite convinced of his "logic" on how VE was town (which to me makes no fucking sense). Let's take a gander at this other topic, which I think is quite damning. Jay's stance on DjoIn the beggining of the day, jay is mega-fucking-power convinced that Djo is scum. He cites Palmar on how he wanted Djo dead (whilst ignoring VE, but we'll get to that). Observe: On December 16 2012 08:06 jaybrundage wrote:
I would be down for a djo lynch. On December 16 2012 14:17 jaybrundage wrote:
I support a Djodref lynch. On December 16 2012 14:22 jaybrundage wrote:
##Vote Djodref On December 17 2012 11:19 jaybrundage wrote:On December 17 2012 11:05 Djodref wrote:
Please notice how jay is pushing my lynch !
-> not so strong, right ?
Please notice how he ran away from the questions I've just asked him !
-> so who is more likely to be scum and town between him and me ?
Just to be clear i think it would b a mistake to lynch anyone but you;. Palmar wanted you dead for good reason. There's no mistaking it, he really does think Djo is scum (or so he makes it look like). Once VE starts getting a few votes in, he flips the switch. 1[/b]And decides to vote... ME! No reasoning at all. The only mention he has of me that's earlier than that is when he "pressure voted" me on my joke-slip. On December 15 2012 09:30 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 15 2012 09:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 09:18 jaybrundage wrote:
Sorry guys for not being here. I threw my vote for tunkeg as we already have 7 on it, and to stop a last minute vote change. Im like 250 posts behind catching up now. this is like the 2nd day out of 2 that your reasons for voting have basically been "to stop a last minute vote change". What gives?
Nope nope nope.
My reason last time was to stop a no lynch. We didn't have enough to lynch adam until i stepped in.
Also if tunkeg is scum like adam was scum. Why wouldn't I want to keep the lynch on him. Im just following what town wants to do. (If town is indeed the reason we reached this majority)
Back to catching up.
Oh and if anyone is curious. On my Z-Boson Vote yesterday. It was just a pressure vote. So he initially disagrees that I'm a scumread. He didn't push me, didn't mention me, so I'm cool with him right? So now he for some reason, decided that he would try to sway the vote onto ME, of all people. Why me? Why not Djo, why not Vivax, why not someone else he's been suspicious of this game?
On December 18 2012 09:23 jaybrundage wrote:
Hmm I dont think VE is scum. In fact i would say that im pretty dam postive VE isnt scum. Seeing how easily this lynch is going.
And considering that my vote isnt on VE and they already hit 7. This isnt a bus. This is a Mislynch. Switch to Zboson plz.
##Unvote
##Vote Z-Boson
And his suspicions on Djo totally disappeared. He suddenly treats Djo as if he's townie:
On December 18 2012 09:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Djo are you here too. get off the lynch wagon we can do this
On December 18 2012 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Considering that he is actually considering this. I would say no.
As scum would be against it.
I could see a scum team being. Vivax, Z-Boson, And my favorite Marv.
Anyone down for a Vivax or Zboson lynch
But regardless if we dont consoldate i think we should get of VE
And also this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=123#2456
Normally I'd agree with Hapa that he's setting himself up to attract too much attention to himself, but what makes the deal for him is how little sense he makes in his choices. A regular townie would likely have tried to sway onto someone he had actually thought suspicious at least one other time in the game.
He also acknowledges that as scum he'd have to be really stupid to do that, so this means he's self-aware of this.
He also would have been a team with VE, who would have told him to do that and would thus justify the biggest 180 I've ever seen.
How "misunderstood" he is
This is evidence that lines up with his actions. He keeps referring to himself as how he's misunderstood, at how easy it is for him to get mislynched. I view this as a setup for him to make the nonsensical decisions he has made this game as well. I'm lazy to quote them, but multiple times this game he's made it a point to say such a thing.
His blatant misdirection on Palmar's post
I decided to separate this from the original quote he cited from Palmar. I noted this earlier, but I'll emphasize it right now because I think it's important. Let's take a look at this interaction with me:
[spoiler]On December 17 2012 11:53 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 09:17 Palmar wrote:
VisceraEyes cannot be anything but scum at this point. If this is his new town game, I hate it, because the VE I knew and loved was loud, didn't take shit, took random leads and stabs at people. This chilled back non-active VE is either his scum play, or some shitty ridiculous new town meta.
Djodref is almost certainly scum, the resistance to his wagon on day 2 was just ridiculous for someone who got caught lying like a retard. I have zero understanding of why anyone who is town would even consider not lynching him. It's strictly the wrong play not to kill him. He must be killed or this game is lost.
Jaybrundage has very little to defend him, but there's just so many people that need much more attention than him in this game. He could very well be scum, but after killing VE and Djodref you guys should have a clearer picture to look at. don't let scum push this false wagon. I feel more confident in my Djodref lynch. I think his diverting attemps day 1. Also the crazy resistance to his lynch day 2 are likely cause he is mafia. Also Palmar was having trouble reading VE.
On December 17 2012 12:11 Z-BosoN wrote:Jay this is the part that needs to be bolded: Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 09:17 Palmar wrote:
VisceraEyes cannot be anything but scum at this point. If this is his new town game, I hate it, because the VE I knew and loved was loud, didn't take shit, took random leads and stabs at people. This chilled back non-active VE is either his scum play, or some shitty ridiculous new town meta.
Djodref is almost certainly scum, the resistance to his wagon on day 2 was just ridiculous for someone who got caught lying like a retard. I have zero understanding of why anyone who is town would even consider not lynching him. It's strictly the wrong play not to kill him. He must be killed or this game is lost.
Jaybrundage has very little to defend him, but there's just so many people that need much more attention than him in this game. He could very well be scum, but after killing VE and Djodref you guys should have a clearer picture to look at. don't let scum push this false wagon. I don't see that as "trouble reading VE". It looks to me like he read VE just fine and made a concessive remark in case VE flips town. I also corroborate on this with my above post using Liquid City as an example.
On December 17 2012 12:20 jaybrundage wrote:
Z-bo right after Palmar says that. He then goes on to speculate if VE could be town. He wasnt as confident in that read as he put out.
Regardless its not just Palmar's reasoning that I want to lynch Djodref. Hes been scummy for a while.
[/spoiler]
He took one part of the post that Palmar made to support his wanting to go after Djo, but let us remember that Palmar also specifically said that VE was perhaps a better lynch due to how "certain" it was that he was scum. Why did jay simply ignore this? Why didn't jay bother discussing on VE at all?
How in the goddamn hell does he feel VE is a mislynch when a confirmed Palmar said he specifically wanted Jay dead? If Jay really thought him to be town, why didn't he defend VE earlier when town was still indecisive?
This even more supports the idea that Jay was asked to do this in the scum QT or something like that.
I'm gonna be real clear and specific here, because I think we just hit the spot.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=117#2333
On December 18 2012 09:23 jaybrundage wrote:
Hmm I dont think VE is scum. In fact i would say that im pretty dam postive VE isnt scum. Seeing how easily this lynch is going.
And considering that my vote isnt on VE and they already hit 7. This isnt a bus. This is a Mislynch. Switch to Zboson plz.
##Unvote
##Vote Z-Boson
Jay hadn't mentioned or talked to VE at all. Jay hadn't mentioned me as a scum read at all. This post instantly and out of nowhere introduces two things that were never discussed nor made clear in jay's filter.
tl;dr
Everything points towards him purposefully drawing attention to himself (his self-awareness, his remarks on how mislynchable he is, his sudden and abrupt turnaround on TWO aspects of his game).
His play makes no sense a billion times over from townie perspective (Djo thing is just... wtf).
WIFOM aside, he's pushing a mafia agenda.
Jay is scum.
Discuss.
[b]1 I made it clear that I was throughly convinced that VE was town and a cop. I assumed as a vet he would know a good target sheep ftw. Also I also said that we should switch to anyone i was advocating a no lynch cause i was (wrongly) convinced that VE was town.
2 My VE defense makes sense if you were convinced someone was town and they were getting lynched
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On December 18 2012 09:30 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok we have ten people left to vote. If marv is right about 4 mafia then we have 7 town and 3 mafia left.
That means that out of the 7 people that voted VE 1 of them is mafia. As i as town have not voted for VE
There is no reason to bus VE as Djo was a easy option considering if hes town.
Also if VE is townie that means that there are 2 scum on this lynch.
So therefore we shouldnt lynch VE cause 2 scum on on VE's lynch wagon
Any questions?
Ok lets try to work thru the logic of a twisted mind.
Ok 10 people were in the game at the time. We had 7 people on VE when i came in the thread.
If marv is right about there being 4 mafia then that means that one of the mafia was on VE as i as town was not.
Remember i wasn't around for much of the VE lynch as i was working.
So as last time i wasnt here and we mislynched tunkeg. I thought a similar thing would happen and that scum would drive the lynch if town didnt have my input (egotistical much).
Also i wanted to lynch Djo. I wasnt as sure with VE.
I then made the bad leap of logic that if one mafia was on VE that VE must be town or mafia wouldnt of voted for him. Not knowing that town made a good push for this lynch and it wasnt scum driven. So i assumed VE was town as well meaning two mafia were on the lynch and I had this conviction that VE was town.
Any questions?
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On December 20 2012 12:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
ah nvm, idc. i looked at your filter again just now and you're scum
But im not XD.
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On December 20 2012 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
you dont need to provide a big case just this very second, you can do that later. i just want as fast of a response as you can give. so who do you think is scum and why?
I already said Z-Boson.
Take at look at how he votes. For both the adam and the VE lynch he didnt even help them get lynched. He waited till they were already had enough votes and then threw his vote in. He hasn't helped us lynch scum yet (as in use his vote to get them lynched)
I also find VE's last minute pointed fingers at Z-Boson a way to set him up to look more townie.
Thoughts?
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I feel like im going to get lynched regardless. But if you look i havent put much work in the tunkeg lynch or the VE lynch either.
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On December 20 2012 17:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
whatever, just answer when you see it
To Jay:
(a lot of these are "hypothetical" so just go with it. just try to answer as naturally as you can.)
1. if you were a random person in the obs thread watching this game and you think jay is scum, who do you think is the other scum?
2. who else do you think is mafia besides boson and why?
3. why did you vote for boson after saying "Just to be clear i think it would b a mistake to lynch anyone but (djo)"
4. which 2 people would you be most surprised about if they flipped scum?
5. at this point in the game, who are you the most paranoid/scared about being scum?
6. if you are town thinking you are going to be mislynched, why are you being so passive?
7. if boson is scum like you say, what advice do you think ve gave him before ve got lynched?
8. if you are town.... pretend you are scum. pick any other player you wish to be your scum partner. what is your strategy to win the game?
9. if you're town, pretend you are scum. what happened to the mafia kp last night? if you are scum, are there any reasons why you would withhold kp?
10. what are your thoughts about this survey?
1. IDK and its dumb to even answer this as im not scum.
2. Z-Boson was just a gut read. I dont have enough of a read on anyone else. Maybe hapa?
3. Because VE already had a vote on him. Also VE wasnt posting as badly and the thread decided not to lynch him.
4. Grush and Marv
5. Djo still might be scum it was wierd that VE tried to paint him as town instead of scum for the fake cop call but thsi is just WIFOM
6. Because I always get mislynched. Plus life can be hectic sometimes and its not easy to write up good cases.
7. Lynch Jay
8. Marv lead the town and kill townies.
9. Well as town they are obv gonna wait till i get mislynched and then have 3 townie deaths in a row. Leaving only questionable players around. Forcing mass confusion.
10. Pretty sweet.
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