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On November 28 2012 02:07 GreYMisT wrote:
IF you take 150 damage and are healed for 100 damage in the same night, you will be told
You took 50 damage
You were healed.
Someone felt I was worth protecting, and I was not healed. I dealt more than 75 damage to myself, and I have no idea if anyone attacked me.
I am going to be untargetable due to my unlocked ability tonight, assuming I use it (I'm gonna use it, but I have the choice not to). There is a secondary function that I am going to withhold for now. Don't bother doing anything to me tonight, as I am untouchable by ANY targeted ability.
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On November 28 2012 02:31 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 02:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 28 2012 02:19 phagga wrote:
I object on Prom or Hopeless being in the party. I lean on syllos side when it comes to prom, I can follow his arguments and agree with them.
Hopeless behaviour about him wanting to be in the party this day looks really scum motivated. If he knows himself that people doubt his townieness, there is no reason for him to be wanting in the party as town.
I feel unsure about Djo being on the party. He has been shown erratic behaviour and speculation that was useless. I'd rather not have him in the party.
I look forward to hear from z-boson again.
I disagree that my behavior looks strictly scum motivated, there are town motives as well: Townies want to be on the party. I see it as a way to clear my name so that people stop discussing me as a lynch candidate because I know that it is likely to end in my death. While the discussion will hopefully be helpful in finding scum after I flip, it comes at the cost of a townie. Depending on our lynch availability we can't afford to be wasting it on me and I want to find a way to confirm or deny the accusation against me. Being selected to be on the event party is an opportunity to do so. But you do understand that town will not want the risk to take you along, right? I mean, it must be obvious that if town generally sees you as null/scum, then you will not be taken along. Therefore coming forward and saying that you need to be with the party to prove you're town is nonsensical. However, realising that you have been figured out as scum and martyring by failing an event for town seems quite a reasonable idea. Finally, you want to prove you are town? Why don't you show interest in the game? (and with this I mean generally, not only when you are accused of being scum). Why don't you try to find the scum amidst us? Acro just did you a favor by claiming third party, as it means you can actually be town without theChronicler lying. However, you can also still be scum. It's up to you to prove to us now that your town through your behaviour.
I do understand why town wont risk it, and point taken. I just wanted to be clear that there is a town motivated explanation for my actions. I'm trying to maximize the use of our potential lynches, and possibly any town KP we might have.
As for my scumhunting, I rely way too much on flips to figure out my scumreads. Z-Bo is now my top scum read, but Toad is still getting flipped first.
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On November 28 2012 03:28 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, Greymist is here, so I guess I couldn't kill the golem. Maybe I'm the wrong guy, or maybe the countdown has nothing to do with the golem.
Any other ideas for the countdown and the weird time between the numbers?
I tried looking at the timestamps as numbers rather than times and that made no sense either. I can't think of a reason for posting a countdown unless we are supposed to react to it in some way.
Well either no one knows, or the select few don't want us to know. If it is the Golem Overlord, he's just going to flee anyways so we don't need to worry about it.
Other countdowns include the Guardian from Arris Dome (2300AD), Azala+BlackTyrano (65000000BC) and Rust Tyrano (600AD)
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On November 28 2012 03:48 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 03:30 TheChronicler wrote:On November 28 2012 03:06 Acrofales wrote:On November 28 2012 03:03 TheChronicler wrote:On November 28 2012 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
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Are you the guy who has to kill me? Someone has to kill you and you claimed? How about you read my claim. It's explained there. /VERY tired of people not reading the thread. Are you referring to this part of your claim? "because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me" I'm not seeing what you could be referring to otherwise, and I still don't understand why you claimed. You say the cat was out of the bag, but it was all speculation. The cat WAS out of the bag. Speculation or not, there were at least 3 people thinking I was 3P. Scumteam probably already had it figured even earlier. Djodref basically phrased his question oddly, but he did ask me whether I was 3P. Saying no would have made things worse if I ever have to claim in the future, which was looking increasingly likely with the parity check. The parity check alone also weighed in on my decision. Better to claim 3P now and get that evidence off the table against Hopeless1der. I think he's scum. I think he should be killed. But I don't want people killing him because of your check, and I definitely don't want people going after ME if he were to flip town. Claiming 3P afterwards would have looked terrible. "Scum trying to get out of being lynched" would be the first thing that would come to my mind if I were townie having mislynched one side of a parity check. I really want that excuse out of the way. Also, go ahead and check me against Toad if you don't believe me. I would be much obliged.
He's broke, remember?On November 28 2012 02:26 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 01:31 Acrofales wrote:
Shit. You people, can't you keep your conclusions about survivors to yourselves?
Seeing as the cat's pretty much out of the bag, I confirm I'm 3rd party. My wincon is to survive and do some stuff that I am not telling anybody about. I promise that the extra stuff is in town's best interest. Not saying anything more, because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me. Otherwise Drazerk's solution to playing a survivor will always work: claim D1 and go AFK (or in this case, claim D1 and help town to figure out how to fulfill the other part of my wincon, THEN go AFK).
This is also immediately the reason I don't want to be on a party. I asked Greymist whether my influence counts with town or scum, or whether I could choose. He told me that I cannot choose and that he's not saying what my influence counts as. I have no way of knowing my hidden influence factor. So.. no. There is no contradiction between my not wanting to be on the party and being really surprised at Keirathi's claim.
Think about it, though: scum was probably not feeling too comfortable on D3. D1 went town's way, D2 went further town's way. Why would they NOT want to take any opportunity to get on the party? Claiming not wanting to be on the party would be a ridiculously stupid move, unless you think scum is so afraid of being caught out through the party mechanic that they are going to hide all game while town figures them out and kills them one by one on the few lynch days we get?
Oh, I can claim some other stuff: I have a load of one-shot abilities, but don't know what they do. Part of my suspicions of Drazerk are founded on this: he claims to be able to figure out what his abilities do before using them. I am unable and have to use them and pray. I can make an educated guess using common sense and some help from the chronopedia to figure out what is likely, but I cannot know for certain. Not giving ability names either, as they are 100% linked to my character name.
On D1 I used an ability that I thought would mason me with 3 other people. Instead it did 75 damage to each of them. I hit Sandroba, Dienosore and BioSC with it. I wanted to chat with Sandroba and BioSC to figure out if they were scum or not. I wanted to chat with Dienosore about setup-related stuff that largely got resolved in the thread.
I already said what I did D2.
D3 I cannot reveal, as it says too much about me. This is the only one I breadcrumbed, though, so if I ever feel safe in claiming my name in full, you will be able to check it.
@Hopeless1derp: I have called you an idiot too many times this game, already, but here goes again. On the offchance you are really town (which I really don't think): you're an idiot. OF COURSE you want Lavos to appear when scum is dead. Fairly certain killing Lavos with scum alive is going to be harder than killing him with scum dead. It doesn't look like there's much opportunity to kill scum, so wasting whatever abilities you have to kill scum on me is beyond ridiculous. I also have rather a lot of HP and things that I really really suspect are heals.
There is 0 point to killing me and I am helping town as best I can. I have done more scumhunting than pretty much anybody except Marv. I was wrong on Sandroba, so /shrug. However, I DID find Toad. If you prefer I shut up and go afk for the rest of the game, say so. I am happy to leave you derps derping it up. This time I don't give a shit if the endgame has Kushes Fubas and Proms in it: I just need to not get killed once I have completed my other condition, which I am fairly confident I can do without your help. *cough* *cough* I'm broke. I have no more checks, I can't protect anyone else. There's a reason I didn't check hopeless against Toad. There's a reason I didn't check YOU against Toad. Clarity between the two of us that means Marv took something greater than or equal to 550 damage if I'm adding correctly?
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Acro, if you explained why you thought your N1 action would cause masonry, would you be revealing your role?
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On November 28 2012 07:24 strongandbig wrote:hey guys just caught up with teh threadzor so correct me if i'm wrong but we're picking dienosore to be party leader because he might get masamune? keirathi do you think it would help you at all to be the party leader instead of a party follower? also i think that hopeless is scum even though it turns out acro is 3p - some of the things that hopeless has done since being checked seem to me like scum in desperation like the whole thing about being on a party - this and hapa's thing and the chronicler all have done it - like i said to hapa before, i'm suspicious of anyone who says "put me in the party" instead of just relying on their townieness to be self-evident or whatever, because scum might have more information than we do and they might be starting to really want us to fail a mission some other stuff: Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 12:49 Hopeless1der wrote:I think we've decided that our Party leader is going to be one of our previous party members. Oats cannot lead. That leaves: - Syllogism
- Keirathi
- Dienosore
- Clarity_nl
This could very well be the party that runs today's event. Only one of Dienosore and Oatsmaster can be on the party due to setup restrictions. Oatsmaster and Syllogism have already led a party before and have items to show for it. I believe the leaders receive an item upon a successful mission completion. Either we try to pool resources to one player (i.e. syllo today) or we divvy up the spoils among as many players as possible while maintaining a successful party. I don't like the idea of powering up one player for a number of reasons: Scum might be able to steal items Items may be lost upon death The player may in fact be scum I'd prefer syllo and oats not be in the party at all because they currently hold items, but if we can't identify a 4th for the team, I'd pick dieno over oats and have syllo step in to fill the last spot. My choice for party leader is one of Keir, Dieno and Clarity. As I've already stated, I'd like to be included in the party. If any of them are inclined to give me the 4th spot, I'd be delighted and they will receive my vote. In the meantime, I'm fine sheeping the current votelead on Keir. ##Vote: KeirathiAlso, I hereby state that I won't put a last-minute voteswitch onto Toad today, in case anyone suspects shenanigans. like, seriously - what is the point of saying that last bit...
I have a tendency to pull last minute shenanigans. People may have suspected that I'd "save" Toad again. I'm not going to do that. I was under the impression that we were going to get a lynch the last time. I was wrong and I have no intentions of fucking that up again.
On November 28 2012 07:24 strongandbig wrote:
then there's the fact that his response to a red check from tc was "bring it bitches"
like, he answers the whole case point by point and then he doesn't address the check itself...
tc's long case post was actually pretty bad, but after hopeless went through the case and answered it point by point, instead of actually addressing the dt check, he's just like "bring it" - that doesn't feel very town to me
NO HE'S A LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE NYAH NYAH NYAH.
It wasn't a redcheck, it was a parity check, and Acro has claimed 3rd party. I'll admit, I skipped that option, but when I think parity, I think town or scum, which incidentally is what Acro KNEW were my alignment options (assuming he is 3rd party).
On November 28 2012 07:24 strongandbig wrote:
then there's this "im untargetable tonight" thing. i don't understand what he's trying to head off here - townies would use negative abilities on toad, and scum would use negative abilities on pretty much anyone other than h1 or toad. the only thing that seems likely to hit h1 is maybe another dt check, so i don't see how him making himself untargetable or telling us he's untargetable are helpful to town
Are you aware that I claimed protection? Someone tried to stop me from taking damage last night. They will be unsuccessful tonight if they attempt to do so again. So they should go about preventing damage elsewhere. I doubt it was marv because math doesn't work out.
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On November 28 2012 10:26 iamperfection wrote:
hey the drunk excuse is my thing don't steal it
Not this game its not...
On November 28 2012 10:29 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: then shoot Cave and even after that Adam if we cannot find scum in Hopeless/Z-bo/phagga.
Toad first, followed by whoever the fuck else.
Why do you place phagga in there? Lack of content or some new triangle of scummy yelling that I'm not aware of?
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On November 28 2012 23:08 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 07:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Syllogism
##Vote: Hopeless1der
Things and such. Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 07:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
But I want to play setup explorer instead Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:25 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2012 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern. I nominate Cave as an alternative to sandroba (I'm still in favor of a sandroba lynch while he continues to be afk, and likely even after he returns) On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane). My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have. Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed. He's clearly lying about his success modifier. It's a hidden value and he has no benchmark to lead him to believe 4 is a high number. He isn't keeping up with the thread. He's likely lying about his role and has a history of lying about his role. For whatever reason, he claims to think he would be a likely roleblock target. He has a history of never contributing in any game he has ever played in (and I mean that in the nicest of ways <3) Is he scum though? If it is draz, (and I have limited first hand experience) he does this kind of shit regardless. I'd rather not lynch him. I need to read sandroba, but before anything else, I cite his Looney Lynching play as exhibit A on why lack of activity =\= scum sandroba. His interactions with syllo on the other hand...well I'm going to go look into that one. My setup exploration was unproductive by the way. What were you expecting/hoping would happen? Why would 1 person (you) voting for yourself have any influence on anything?
Nameclaim: Toma the Adventurer. I was screwing around with potential mechanics related to my role. Kind of how you have no idea what your abilities do until you use them, I thought there might be more to my role than just my ability. If you thought you could figure out what they do beforehand, wouldn't you try?
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On November 29 2012 00:52 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 00:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 28 2012 23:08 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 07:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Syllogism
##Vote: Hopeless1der
Things and such. On November 23 2012 07:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
But I want to play setup explorer instead On November 23 2012 09:25 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2012 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern. I nominate Cave as an alternative to sandroba (I'm still in favor of a sandroba lynch while he continues to be afk, and likely even after he returns) On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane). My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have. Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed. He's clearly lying about his success modifier. It's a hidden value and he has no benchmark to lead him to believe 4 is a high number. He isn't keeping up with the thread. He's likely lying about his role and has a history of lying about his role. For whatever reason, he claims to think he would be a likely roleblock target. He has a history of never contributing in any game he has ever played in (and I mean that in the nicest of ways <3) Is he scum though? If it is draz, (and I have limited first hand experience) he does this kind of shit regardless. I'd rather not lynch him. I need to read sandroba, but before anything else, I cite his Looney Lynching play as exhibit A on why lack of activity =\= scum sandroba. His interactions with syllo on the other hand...well I'm going to go look into that one. My setup exploration was unproductive by the way. What were you expecting/hoping would happen? Why would 1 person (you) voting for yourself have any influence on anything? Nameclaim: Toma the Adventurer. I was screwing around with potential mechanics related to my role. Kind of how you have no idea what your abilities do until you use them, I thought there might be more to my role than just my ability. If you thought you could figure out what they do beforehand, wouldn't you try? Hrmm, I have no clue what your name has to do with that. You had already claimed you were some sort of explorer. Whether that is blue, black or red remains to be discovered. I have to say the claim comes at an unusual time. What in your role gives you the impression that there is more to be discovered? My role makes it very clear that I cannot know what my abilities do until I use them.
The fact that my original ability unlocks a secondary ability following self-inflicted damage.
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On November 29 2012 01:16 iamperfection wrote:
why does everybody's abilities sound overly complicated and conditional when compared to mine?
My actual ability isn't complicated, I was just searching for things that didn't exist.
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On November 29 2012 01:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 01:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 29 2012 01:16 iamperfection wrote:
why does everybody's abilities sound overly complicated and conditional when compared to mine? My actual ability isn't complicated, I was just searching for things that didn't exist. so what made you think their secondary conditions the wording?
qué?
I'm in a greymist game with an unknown secondary ability and the knowledge that I'm an explorer. I extrapolated from there.
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Did you have to post to the thread or was that just for fun?
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On November 29 2012 07:39 Djodref wrote:How do you know he is going to die ?1
On November 29 2012 07:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 07:29 phagga wrote:
Didn't acro already take damage? And does this only damage Toad? I took 50 damage. I suspect that ability is enough to kill Toad.
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On November 29 2012 07:41 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 07:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cave will you be around after the new cycle starts? Depends if people hurt me
I won't hurt you anymore, I plomise 
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I was under the impression that clarity only had a 1-shot heal
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##Vote: Toadesstern
Sorry, I started moving yesterday after work b/c I found out I don't get the weekend to do so. I'll try to catch up today at work, but I haven't read anything properly since the daypost.
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##Lynch: Toadesstern
Party Leader: Clarity_nl
Party preference: Syllo Keir Dieno Clarity
Reasoning: All have been on a successful party and are semi-confirmed town; In addition, Keir gets more powers I think.
Acceptable Substitutions: Oatsmaster, TheChronicler, Hopeless1derNo one is going to take me, who am I kidding 
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On November 30 2012 00:19 iamperfection wrote:
what time period would we be in next jump?
We have yet to visit Antiquities (12,000 BC). My guess would be there next for Lavos' first appearance.
The countdown would make sense if it were in fact counting down to Lavos, but I don't get why we'd be given the countdown to begin with. In the game, you're expected to lose the first encounter with Lavos (unless you level grind like a bawse)
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