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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 29 2012 18:19 GMT
#4961
Risen: no you did not sign up for COld War on this or your main.

Acro: Thinking about it you seem pretty right. Clearly this next cycle scum need to kill the party. I already protected clarity and I'll mind meld with one of the other likely party members tonight. I assume the other protective roles will do a similar thing. My only concern is with making Syllo a repeat leader. That is why I think clarity is preferable. If you are voting for Syllo to ensure a 'confirmed town' gets elected despite any shenanies I approve.

Keir: no, I think acro's reasons make sense.

VE/Syllo: since there is nothing we can do with that information right now I think that you should wait until next cycle to reveal it or at least alter in this cycle where that information, hopefully, won't benefit scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 29 2012 18:21 GMT
#4962
On November 30 2012 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:10 Keirathi wrote:
Does no one else find it strange that Acro voted me for party leader an hour and a half ago, then 15 minutes ago decided that I shouldn't even be in the party?

That's a huge flip-flop with zero reasoning :o

Dude, do you read the thread?

Of course I do. And I'm looking at your filter right now. Between the time that you voted me, and the time that you excluded me, you didn't talk any about this HP or HSM stuff. Then bam, just changed your mind. And called the HSM stuff "shenanigans" without any reasoning whatsoever.

Anyways, I find it hard to believe that an all townie team can lose an event under any situation, no matter how many people are still alive. That kind of system just doesn't make sense. But I guess it could be a possibility.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 29 2012 18:23 GMT
#4963
On November 30 2012 03:21 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
On November 30 2012 03:10 Keirathi wrote:
Does no one else find it strange that Acro voted me for party leader an hour and a half ago, then 15 minutes ago decided that I shouldn't even be in the party?

That's a huge flip-flop with zero reasoning :o

Dude, do you read the thread?

Of course I do. And I'm looking at your filter right now. Between the time that you voted me, and the time that you excluded me, you didn't talk any about this HP or HSM stuff. Then bam, just changed your mind. And called the HSM stuff "shenanigans" without any reasoning whatsoever.

Anyways, I find it hard to believe that an all townie team can lose an event under any situation, no matter how many people are still alive. That kind of system just doesn't make sense. But I guess it could be a possibility.


I find it pretty easy to believe. I mean basically all you have to do is take your zero sum system and make us need >100 or something instead of >0. also: GreYMisT.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:25 GMT
#4964
I don't know if Bio sent in an action I'll have to look at my role PM to see if that information was given to me. I've sent in an action every cycle, and I don't think revealing ALL of my actions is going to be helpful. Confirmable, sure. Useful....probably not so much. But again - this is your show. I'll do what I gotta do.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#4965
I suggest you ask Greymist to tell you what actions (if any) Bio took.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 29 2012 18:28 GMT
#4966
In fact I find it really weird that that isn't the first thing you asked when you replaced in
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18257 Posts
November 29 2012 18:32 GMT
#4967
On November 30 2012 03:21 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
On November 30 2012 03:10 Keirathi wrote:
Does no one else find it strange that Acro voted me for party leader an hour and a half ago, then 15 minutes ago decided that I shouldn't even be in the party?

That's a huge flip-flop with zero reasoning :o

Dude, do you read the thread?

Of course I do. And I'm looking at your filter right now. Between the time that you voted me, and the time that you excluded me, you didn't talk any about this HP or HSM stuff. Then bam, just changed your mind. And called the HSM stuff "shenanigans" without any reasoning whatsoever.

Anyways, I find it hard to believe that an all townie team can lose an event under any situation, no matter how many people are still alive. That kind of system just doesn't make sense. But I guess it could be a possibility.

1. The longer explanation is what was in my head when I made my post putting Syllo forward. Between my vote for you and my vote for Syllo, Greymist explained what happened if the party leader (and because of his answer, really any party member) was killed between the vote and the event. It made me realize I hadn't thought things through: we have a delay this time, allowing scum to act between election and event.

2. Why do you think an all-townie event will always succeed? Don't you think the number of participants will be important too?

Random setup speculation incoming (freely interpreted from risk.nuke's post on the same): lets say we need 3 HSM points to win an event. Normal townies give 1 point each. Low HSM townies give 0.5. 3P gives 0. Scum gives -1.

Party with 4 townies: 4 points, yippee, success.
Party with 3 regular townies and a low HSM townie: 3.5 points, success.
Party with 3 townies and a 3P: 3 points, phew, success by the skin of our teeth.
Party with 3 townies and a scum: 2 points, DOOM
Party with 2 regular townies, a low HSM townie and a 3P: 2.5 points, DOOM

If someone gets shot, then his HSM no longer counts towards the total, bringing it nearer to DOOM.

Now we have no way of confirming the event works like this without failing more events, which seems like a pretty damned stupid idea, so it is mere speculation.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:32 GMT
#4968
Okay, it did say in my Role PM that BioSC used one of my actions. It wasn't a 1-shot though so it slipped my mind. Just kinda like "Okay that's interesting" kind of thing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 29 2012 18:37 GMT
#4969
So far I haven't been blown away by the abilities people have claimed and I'm more interested in finding mafia or townies even if it means outing some ability. I can't really keep withholding information very long anyway in case I die.

What did you target Dienosore with?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#4970
I have an ability where I restore 25% of the target's max health. I tried to restore Dino's health last night. I was roleblocked.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 29 2012 18:48 GMT
#4971
You should have told me to wait until next cycle to reveal, oh well.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#4972
If that ability is not 1-shot you should use it on Dieno again this cycle.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#4973
I said it wouldn't be useful -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#4974
On November 30 2012 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have an ability where I restore 25% of the target's max health. I tried to restore Dino's health last night. I was roleblocked.

Djo was that because of your ability
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#4975
No, I roleblocked+tracked him
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18257 Posts
November 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#4976
No wonder this thread is 250 pages long. People have to say stuff 15 times before people read it (or use their brain).
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:55 GMT
#4977
Unless Dino is lying about taking damage, then Djo's claim of protection was bogus, right?

Also that post is going to have to wait. I didn't have the time I thought I'd have to put it together, and I have to go to work. It's still open though so I can finish it up tonight after work.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 29 2012 18:56 GMT
#4978
On November 30 2012 03:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Unless Dino is lying about taking damage, then Djo's claim of protection was bogus, right?

Also that post is going to have to wait. I didn't have the time I thought I'd have to put it together, and I have to go to work. It's still open though so I can finish it up tonight after work.


Not really, we don't know what kind of protection. But the cycle post claims Dieno was saved from death by someone, I see no reason to disbelieve it was Djo. In my eyes this makes him town, I don't think scum would waste such an ability to get djo to look townie.

That is even before I look at djo's play and believe he is town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 29 2012 18:57 GMT
#4979
I believe the damage Dieno took was from failing the mission, and therefore it wasn't a nightaction, so Djo's protection would do nothing to prevent that damage.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 29 2012 18:59 GMT
#4980
Oh right, the "Mysterious Force" or whatever. Yeah, okay that makes sense.

Anyway, I'll be reading along on my phone and I'll post short answers to questions anyone has if I can, but yeah not much in the way of contribution when I'm on the clock.

Catch you guys later.
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