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On November 30 2012 02:59 TheChronicler wrote: Wait the rollback wouldn't act as a protection? The rollback is a rollback. The way you were 48 hours ago (1 full cycle). So the hp you had, the abilities you had, the items etc you had. So any heal that happened in the last 48 hours will be reversed. | ||
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And you can't tell me about your 1 shot ability without risking something? | ||
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On November 30 2012 03:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Unless Dino is lying about taking damage, then Djo's claim of protection was bogus, right? Also that post is going to have to wait. I didn't have the time I thought I'd have to put it together, and I have to go to work. It's still open though so I can finish it up tonight after work. Not really, we don't know what kind of protection. But the cycle post claims Dieno was saved from death by someone, I see no reason to disbelieve it was Djo. In my eyes this makes him town, I don't think scum would waste such an ability to get djo to look townie. That is even before I look at djo's play and believe he is town. | ||
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Dienosaur: Yes he's low hp but he's still a possibility especially if I am to believe the healing ability VE has, I also expect iamp to heal him this cycle. Oatsmaster: Extremely likely town, I see no way for him to be scum under any circumstance. TheChronicler: He asked for a rollback since he has a 1shot that he says "greatly benefits town". I believe he is town so I believe him when he says this and am strongly considering doing this. The huge danger of course being that when/if I use my ability I have to anounce it in the thread, and scum will know he is coming on the party, so I ask that if this happens, protective roles act accordingly. Djodref: The only possibility for djo being scum is that he had a protective ability like he claimed (which does not seem like a scum ability) and used it on Dieno for town credit. I simply do not see this, and his behavior so far makes him near confirmed town in my book. Keirathi: Acro was talking about his "Funky HSM" but if I remember correctly this was only the case in 600 AD. Keir will have to correct me on this if I'm wrong. He also claimed to have abilities available if he is in the party. Syllogism: My town read on him was stronger a couple of cycles ago, with my major irk being that he didn't want to run for election because "he didn't want to send the party pm", but otherwise he is still town and ofcourse was on the succesful cycle 1 mission. iamperfection: He's town. Not much more to say, he's quite clearly town. Adam4167: I had my doubts but after doing some meta reading and listing to others I'm convinced Adam is in fact town, and seeing as he has not been a target nor has claimed any damage I imagine he is max hp. Lots to pick from then, which is a good thing. If anyone has any problems with anyone on this list please let me know. =] | ||
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I feel bad for greymist I've been spamming him up all game. | ||
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On November 30 2012 05:26 Keirathi wrote: Incorrect. My HSM deal doesn't have anything to do with the time period. I get bonus abilities if I'm in the party during my own era (600 AD), or if I'm elected party leader. Alright. I think as long as there are no scum or 3p the party will still succeed, but I will keep this in mind. | ||
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Also your iamp read confuses the shit out of me | ||
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No love for the red team | ||
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On November 30 2012 06:15 Hapahauli wrote: <snip> GoodKarma (Slightly Town) While his early-game play was lacking (and pretty "scummy"), his recent defense is more than I'd ever expect from scum-GK. He's been incredibly forthcoming with his replies, and has been replying on very short time-stamps. When compared to the other scum-games I've seen out of him, it's very markedly different. In Newbie XXIII, he makes under ~10 posts on Day 1, and when a strong last-minute bandwagon forms on him, he is too scared to reply to the thread and gets himself lynched. In Mafia LVII, he makes a couple of longer posts with suspect logic, then peaces out from the thread for a couple of hours before making his next substantial reply. I have a hard time believing that GK could have transformed his scum-play so drastically in such a short time. He's being much more brave and forthcoming than anything I've seen in his scum-meta. Sure it's possible that he stepped-up his game and I won't discount that. However, he's showing no "guilt" or hesitation in his replies, and I believe they are coming from a townie (or atleast a non-mafia) GK. <snip> Hapa, you say you found GK scummy on day 1, but when you came in late for the election you proposed him in your party, why? + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2012 03:38 Hapahauli wrote: Fuck it, I'm running for party leader. After sitting down and looking at Syllo and Sandrob, I'm just not very happy with how things are going. They were two players who pushed to be leaders early on, then we as a town today really sheeped on to them as opposed to truly thinking things through. I'm guilty of that myself. Even if I don't convince you to vote for me, I hope whoever is running considers some of the town-candidates I put forth in this post. Why I oppose Syllogism I really object to the rationale in this post after thinking it over. Syllogism pitches non-disclosure of his team as "optimal play" which is garbage logic. We, as a town, gain so much less information from the voting process if we all sheep onto Syllo. He's suggesting that disclosing his reads would somehow be "less-optimal", and I can't for the life of me figure out why. In addition, as mafia, he would have plenty of incentive not to disclose his "list" - mafia don't want to provide analysis if they don't have to. Syllo's entire platform is "trust me," and I'm not willing to put D1 in the hands of such a player. Why oppose Sandrob http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=71#1413 I agree with a lot of what nl_Clarity said in this post. Sandrob campaigned really early and earnestly for his position, and then has all but disappeared from the thread. Sandrob hasn't contributed anything resembling a read, and this is not someone I want to be party leader D1. Why I oppose Kita Absolute joke campaign. My Proposed Party: nl_clarity Clarity has been one of the most engaged players in the game so far. He seems to truly care about what is happening and has the activity/content to back it up. This is the opposite of his scum-play in Newbie XXX (where he was far more distant in the early day), and I consider him strongly town. GoodKarma I really like the content he's posted so far, and I think it's far enough of a departure from what I've seen him to as scum to trust him. As scum he tries to blend in a lot more (Mafia LVII, Newbie XXIII), and him campaigning for party leader is the polar opposite of this. Dienosore He seemed to have claimed here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=51#1017 I have no reason to disbelieve him at this point, and he would need to have coconut-sized balls as a hypothetical scum playing his first game. Others I have considered Keirathi - I still consider him town, but I have stronger reads on the above three players iamperfection - someone who seems to be town based on my meta read on him. However, I ultimately decided against this since I feel he's capable of faking his meta in the early days. What's more telling about his allignment is if he can keep up his antics. | ||
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On November 30 2012 06:40 syllogism wrote: Hapa: that post reads like it was written out of obligation rather than out of genuine interest. Anyway, hope you realize you are never going to be included in the party until a role that explains why you didn't receive a PM about the heal flips. Clarity: did you get an answer regarding full hp healing yet? I didn't consider the possibility of him lying about him taking damage for some stupid reason, but yes it seems likely, since when someone is full hp they do not receive a pm saying "you are healed" | ||
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On November 30 2012 07:24 strongandbig wrote: why would scum lie about taking damage Because if you're hapa you're expected to take damage if you're town. If it's 5 cycles in and no one has hit hapa that would look suspicious, no? | ||
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On November 30 2012 07:28 Hapahauli wrote: Clarity. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=251#5017 Read. Reply. That took me way too long to type to put up with this shit. Put up with what? I'm merely stating possibilities, why suddenly so aggressive? I've read your case and it makes sense and I agree that he's been in the background, I've yet to gone over his filter myself so I won't draw conclusions. | ||
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