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Okay guys, I have like ten minutes. I've read the thread, the happenings and everything. First of all, I took 75 damage last cycle. I assume it was a townie prodding me, but I guess it could have been scum. Doubtful for obvious reasons, but possible. It was flavorless.
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I'm wondering how important it is for us to actually SUCCEED the missions. Think about it this way: if we keep sending the same players over and over again, all we're going to get is...successful missions? I thought at first that the lynch mechanic was tied to the success or failure of missions, but as this last day has proven, that's not necessarily the case.
As such.
Because we cannot depend on a lynch for flip information, we must rely upon the missions to get us concrete information about peoples' motives. We should be selecting teams for the missions NOT with the sole focus of SUCCEEDING at the missions, but rather to gain THE MOST INFORMATION POSSIBLE from the missions.
I'd like syllogism to check my math here, but with a successful mission last cycle, I was depending on a lynch THIS cycle. It didn't happen.
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Toad is almost certainly scum...he should absolutely be our next lynch if we get another lynch.
Hapa is looking better to me since I last posted, but I'm still having issues. He's pushing a player I also find to be incredibly suspicious in Promethelax, so I'm at a crossroads.
@Hapahauli
Your observation about Prom's opinion of you is compelling. How convinced are you of this Acro connection you're seeing re: the Toad case? Let's assume Toad flips third party as you suspect: who would you rather lynch? Prom or Acro?
@Town
I'm also not liking strongandbig's contributions to the game, but as it's mostly based around inactivity, I'm letting that one go. Hopefully he makes good on his promise to contribute more now that he's claimed his RL issues are over.
Mine are not. I still have a lot going on and may not get a whole lot of time to post. Just fair warning guys.
I may be able to get to a couple of questions, but act fast guys. I understand that I don't have much in the way of content to refer to, but if you can think of anything I can tell you to help you divine my alignment, I'm here now. Lay it on me.
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Jesus Christ Acro claimed third?! How did I miss that?!
UGH
To be fair I skimmed quite a bit (there were like over 300 posts to catch up on before I read the thread) so I guess give me a few to unskim and get some fucking FACTS.
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Well I guess that's that then.
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On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:
My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now...
In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist:
1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out.
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...
3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar...
4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too.
5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party
6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later...
7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter.
8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...).
9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions.
10) Toad - Scum
11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read...
On November 28 2012 10:03 goodkarma wrote:
I know people hate lists, but honestly establishing town is just as important, if not moreso, than finding scum this game. So I have less of a problem with lists.
My current conclusions:
1) Vigi shoot VE, Cave, and maybe Adam (in that order).
2) Kita probably is 3rd party...
3) Rolecheck Prox. if possible...
4) Toad = scum...
And in case you were wondering, I would say that everyone not on that list is town at this point...
Aside from the obvious inconsistency of SnB not being on the second list, what I find the most off-putting about these posts is the fact that they come directly after I make my intention to be more active in the thread known, but at a time when I said I was busy and wouldn't be around in the thread (right now.) And I'm Vig Shot Numero Uno apparently.
I'm definitely looking into GK next.
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On November 28 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:I think you highlighted the wrong thing VE Show nested quote +2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... ^ That's pretty damn scummy right there.
Yeah well - Kush proved that town say stupid as fuck things EXACTLY LIKE THAT in Liquid City so I subtracted that particular nonsense from the equation. It's scummy, but town say that shit too.
I was focused more on the association it implied with SnB.
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On November 28 2012 10:20 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 28 2012 10:17 Hapahauli wrote:I think you highlighted the wrong thing VE 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... ^ That's pretty damn scummy right there. Yeah well - Kush proved that town say stupid as fuck things EXACTLY LIKE THAT in Liquid City so I subtracted that particular nonsense from the equation. It's scummy, but town say that shit too. I was focused more on the association it implied with SnB. Goodkarma is a good town player. He isn't Kush, or even close to that.
Good to know. So that actually IS really scummy. Noted.
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My activity is going to be spotty for at least a week...is that what you're asking? I don't know how long this game is going to last, but I'll be posting at full strength after next weekend. In the meantime I'll post what I can when I can and make no promises.
Did you need something in particular iamp?
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On November 28 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
My activity is going to be spotty for at least a week...is that what you're asking? I don't know how long this game is going to last, but I'll be posting at full strength after next weekend. In the meantime I'll post what I can when I can and make no promises.
Did you need something in particular iamp? No, not really. Just hoping to see more ve
I know and I'm kinda fucking salty that this RL bullshit happened AS SOON as my slot opened in this game - I'm a TL Resistance veteran and was all like, planning on campaign posters for trying to be leader and shit...but my activity has made it to where I'm not just not going to be considered for leader, I'm not even going to be PART OF THE TEAM most of the time based solely on my inactivity.
Life isn't fair. We do what we can. I hope to make up for being a total failure in that regard by finding some of the scum for if/when we get a lynch again. Stay tuned.
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A fair amount - the majority of the experience I have with risk is his teaching me that being a total asshat in-thread is not a scumtell (Election Mafia) and IRC Mafia.
His contributions regardless of alignment are flavored with emotion from my experience with him. He's come across as town(ish) from what I recall seeing from him this game, but obviously I've missed some shit and have to go reevaluate anyway. I'll take a look with you.
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I know, but FUCK MAN WHY NO LYNCH TODAY?
Scumhunting without flips is fucking HARD DUDE. :/
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Jesus I haven't voted either.
##Vote: Dienosore
I'm okay with Dieno's team as proposed.
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Hi I'm back! Finally a fucking lynch X)
##Lynch: Toadesstern
##Leader: syllogism
Prom I read your case. It's pretty bad, but mostly because the majority of it is you paraphrasing GK's posts into something scummy when that's not necessarily the way they were intended or meant. That being said, with the mission failure it seems fairly likely that someone on the party is scum, even if Acro's 3rd party claim is to be believed. Among those remaining, I concur that the most likely to be scum is GK. I went back and read a few filters and I'm working on a post right now with what I found.
Bear with me guys.
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I want syllo to lead and to select the party.
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Syllo since you seem convinced risk is scum, how about just putting it all on the table and linking the QT? The circle is outted, and presuming risk is scum as you suspect, is there any harm in doing so?
Unless you've done so already and again I've skimmed over it like a boss.....
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It could corroborate what you're seeing INSIDE the QT making you suspicious of risk...but if you're not convinced then yeah don't bother. It was just an idea.
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On November 30 2012 02:41 Mementoss wrote:
If anyone's wondering linking to any QT is against the rules and is modkillable
/salute
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On November 30 2012 02:44 syllogism wrote:
VE did you get roleblocked last night
I did...sorry about that. I literally had to go check my Inbox. XD I didn't take any damage though!
I'm still working on that post. It's incoming soon.
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Well, I guess that depends on your intended result. It's your show syllo, if you reveal then I'll just have to explain my motivation. Simple as that.
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I don't know if Bio sent in an action I'll have to look at my role PM to see if that information was given to me. I've sent in an action every cycle, and I don't think revealing ALL of my actions is going to be helpful. Confirmable, sure. Useful....probably not so much. But again - this is your show. I'll do what I gotta do.
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Okay, it did say in my Role PM that BioSC used one of my actions. It wasn't a 1-shot though so it slipped my mind. Just kinda like "Okay that's interesting" kind of thing.
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