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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:44 GMT
#3841
Another reason I think Dieno makes more sense if there are rewards based on the player and not which quest they lead to victory he will get the masamune.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 27 2012 00:45 GMT
#3842
GG marv

I didn't get roleblocked, I didn't take any damage...

Regarding the reward, I think we should wait Oats to confirm us that he got a reward before we start speculating too much
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 00:46 GMT
#3843
If we're using the same party as day 1 (we should), I don't see why it matters.

Keir, does your role have anything special when you're leader? Don't answer this.

Clarity hasn't claimed anything to do with being a party member.

I think Keir should be our leader because it's possible he gets something out of it. We won day 1, just use the same team.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:46 GMT
#3844
GK, fair enough. I think it is time our viggies got aimed at scum instead of lurkers. We don't know we'll get a lynch we do know that Toad is scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#3845
EBWOP: I haven't actually placed my vote yet. No need to make the voting thread unnecessarily long, but I don't see why Keir shouldn't be leader.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
November 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#3846
On November 27 2012 09:41 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:38 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:33 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:31 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:28 TheChronicler wrote:
Why does Keir's modifier matter? We just keep using a winning team.


Since we have absolutely no idea how success rate is determined, why take any unnecessary risks?

Until such a time where the actual mechanics for determining success are revealed, I prefer to take what Keir has told us at face value...

You do realize I was in the night 1 party, right?


But we don't know if our chance of success was lowered by your presence that night. If your low success modifier as described in your PM is to be trusted, then bringing you this time around might not be the best idea.

Wat...?

It says ANY party that I'm in has a lower chance of success. That's pretty straight forward wording, and I (not should anyone else) have any reason to believe that it didn't apply day 1 for some unknown reason.


So let's say (hypothetically) bringing you night one took us from 100% to 70% success rate, but you succeeded.
But it could have been something like from 100% success rate to 10% to but you succeeded.

Same outcome, but very different likelihoods of success...

We can continue to speculate on this, but it just doesn't make sense to me why we should bring you today since we don't know that we'll have the same outcome this time around as last time with you in the party.
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 00:48 GMT
#3847
On November 27 2012 09:47 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:41 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:38 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:33 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:31 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:28 TheChronicler wrote:
Why does Keir's modifier matter? We just keep using a winning team.


Since we have absolutely no idea how success rate is determined, why take any unnecessary risks?

Until such a time where the actual mechanics for determining success are revealed, I prefer to take what Keir has told us at face value...

You do realize I was in the night 1 party, right?


But we don't know if our chance of success was lowered by your presence that night. If your low success modifier as described in your PM is to be trusted, then bringing you this time around might not be the best idea.

Wat...?

It says ANY party that I'm in has a lower chance of success. That's pretty straight forward wording, and I (not should anyone else) have any reason to believe that it didn't apply day 1 for some unknown reason.


So let's say (hypothetically) bringing you night one took us from 100% to 70% success rate, but you succeeded.
But it could have been something like from 100% success rate to 10% to but you succeeded.

Same outcome, but very different likelihoods of success...

We can continue to speculate on this, but it just doesn't make sense to me why we should bring you today since we don't know that we'll have the same outcome this time around as last time with you in the party.


If we don't bring him today we're just going to be bringing him next time when we have to bring in someone who hasn't been a part of the teams. We want the highest modifier we can get when that happens.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 00:49 GMT
#3848
On November 27 2012 09:46 Promethelax wrote:
GK, fair enough. I think it is time our viggies got aimed at scum instead of lurkers. We don't know we'll get a lynch we do know that Toad is scum.

No we dont.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 27 2012 00:49 GMT
#3849
On November 27 2012 09:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
TC has claimed Acro and I are opposite alignments. AT LEAST one of them is scum to me. I think its more likely to be Acro. I know we don't want to lose the event and that I'm probably considered more likely to be scum than TC or Acro, but I'd like to be on the party for the sake of "proving" I'm town.

Dafuq?

Like seriously. DAFUQ? I cannot get my head around how mindblowingly stupid this post is.

1. OPPOSITE alignment. Unless you have reason to believe there are 2 scumteams, that means 1 of us is town, the other scum OR 1 of us is town, the other 3rd party, OR 1 of us is scum and the other 3rd party. It *might* be possible for 2 third parties to be considered "opposite alignment". No clue on the specifics there. So no, there is AT MOST 1 scum between you and me. For the record, that scum is you.

2. You think? Really? I KNOW I'm not scum. I don't have to "think that it may perhaps be slightly more likely that I am not scum", because I fucking know it. This overly cautious phrasing is you claiming scum, because you cannot figure out a town mindset.

3. Yeah, trolololol. Lets fail the event, because Hopeless1derp wants to "prove" he's town. Once again, thinking like a townie? Failed. Miserably I might add.

Verdict: scum

PS. The failure to think like a townie is what I caught this guy on in Acme, so it even fits his meta.
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 00:50 GMT
#3850
Officially placed my vote on Keir in the voting thread.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 27 2012 00:51 GMT
#3851
On November 27 2012 09:38 TheChronicler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
TC has claimed Acro and I are opposite alignments. AT LEAST one of them is scum to me. I think its more likely to be Acro. I know we don't want to lose the event and that I'm probably considered more likely to be scum than TC or Acro, but I'd like to be on the party for the sake of "proving" I'm town.


No.

Winning the event is more important than your "proving" you're town. This reads as scum trying to get on the team to make us fail the event as a last ditch effort. We don't even have a lynch today, and Toad would be the lynch over you regardless. Acro could easily have been bussing Toad after seeing my check. I STILL can't wrap my head around why he would claim in thread. What scum would do something like that, though?

If I was bussing Toad, I was doing so way before your check.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 27 2012 00:52 GMT
#3852
Grawefakwjehfk I want to lynch someone T_T

Oh well.

@ Hopeless
Curious - did Toad end up healing you?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#3853
On November 27 2012 09:47 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:41 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:38 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:33 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:31 goodkarma wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:28 TheChronicler wrote:
Why does Keir's modifier matter? We just keep using a winning team.


Since we have absolutely no idea how success rate is determined, why take any unnecessary risks?

Until such a time where the actual mechanics for determining success are revealed, I prefer to take what Keir has told us at face value...

You do realize I was in the night 1 party, right?


But we don't know if our chance of success was lowered by your presence that night. If your low success modifier as described in your PM is to be trusted, then bringing you this time around might not be the best idea.

Wat...?

It says ANY party that I'm in has a lower chance of success. That's pretty straight forward wording, and I (not should anyone else) have any reason to believe that it didn't apply day 1 for some unknown reason.


So let's say (hypothetically) bringing you night one took us from 100% to 70% success rate, but you succeeded.
But it could have been something like from 100% success rate to 10% to but you succeeded.

Same outcome, but very different likelihoods of success...

We can continue to speculate on this, but it just doesn't make sense to me why we should bring you today since we don't know that we'll have the same outcome this time around as last time with you in the party.

I'm pretty sure that the chance of party success isn't some % value roll of the dice.

From OP:
Town players will assist completion of an event and mafia players will count against. There are other hidden factors that contribute to this as well.


Again, I think its much more likely that we're using some kind of zero-sum system for sucess values. Some people are high, some people are low, most people are in the middle, and mafia are negative. Then everyone in the party's value is added up, and if the sum is >0, then the party is successful.

Some random roll of the dice would be insanely dumb, and I don't think GreyMisT is dumb.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#3854
Oh and I took 50 dmg T_T

Lastly, it looks like lynches aren't every other cycle. We need to think about focus-firing players as a town and/or using damage abilities that we have available.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
November 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#3855
Clarification, since Marvellosity died, half the party would be 1.5/3. There are no half people in this game. So technically only 1/3 of the remaining alive party can be taken for this party. That is all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#3856
I took no damage tonight. Seems whatever hit me did a total of 50 damage.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 00:55 GMT
#3857
On November 27 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Grawefakwjehfk I want to lynch someone T_T

Oh well.

@ Hopeless
Curious - did Toad end up healing you?

No record of a heal. I took 75 damage. I think I was healed, but the amount doesn't match Toad's claim.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 27 2012 00:55 GMT
#3858
On November 27 2012 09:03 Mementoss wrote:
...and the cutie pie Deinosore.

But Dienosore had a plan to make the hovercraft go faster! He pulled some pretty pink ribbons out of his pocket and attached them to the back end. However, this did not do anything except make the party look fabulous.

teehee


“Marvellosity, I am so sick of you! GL HF”, shouted Clarity_Nl, as he pushed him out of the moving hovercraft. “ We will come back for you, espeically if we owe GMarshal 1000G!”
Marvellosity - King Guardia XXI! has been killed!


wtf clarity, y u do that
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 27 2012 00:55 GMT
#3859
EBWOP: Basically, I'm saying that any party with 4 townies is almost guaranteed to success, because anything else would be so far beyond ridiculous that I don't think its possible.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 00:56 GMT
#3860
On November 27 2012 09:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
TC has claimed Acro and I are opposite alignments. AT LEAST one of them is scum to me. I think its more likely to be Acro. I know we don't want to lose the event and that I'm probably considered more likely to be scum than TC or Acro, but I'd like to be on the party for the sake of "proving" I'm town.

Dafuq?

Like seriously. DAFUQ? I cannot get my head around how mindblowingly stupid this post is.

1. OPPOSITE alignment. Unless you have reason to believe there are 2 scumteams, that means 1 of us is town, the other scum OR 1 of us is town, the other 3rd party, OR 1 of us is scum and the other 3rd party. It *might* be possible for 2 third parties to be considered "opposite alignment". No clue on the specifics there. So no, there is AT MOST 1 scum between you and me. For the record, that scum is you.

2. You think? Really? I KNOW I'm not scum. I don't have to "think that it may perhaps be slightly more likely that I am not scum", because I fucking know it. This overly cautious phrasing is you claiming scum, because you cannot figure out a town mindset.

3. Yeah, trolololol. Lets fail the event, because Hopeless1derp wants to "prove" he's town. Once again, thinking like a townie? Failed. Miserably I might add.

Verdict: scum

PS. The failure to think like a townie is what I caught this guy on in Acme, so it even fits his meta.

I know I'm town. I'm only proving it to the rest of you. You're a dead man upon my flip, as I'm sure you're aware.
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