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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 18:01 GMT
#3172
On November 26 2012 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:55 Keirathi wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:51 Keirathi wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
My problem with Chronicler's claim is: Why the hell did he check Sandro and Toad against each other? Shouldn't he have picked one obvious townie, and one suspicious person? Picking two suspicious people doesn't make any sense, because until one of them flips, you don't know anything about either of them.


He picked those two because one of them was going to flip. Thereby immediately confirming the other person's alignment (assuming no tampering)

He picked them night 1. Before we even knew we were going to have a lynch day.


My mistake. So many claimed night actions I should go make a list before I open my mouth again. I still don't think they're bad choices even for N1 though. Sandro was under scrutiny near the end of that cycle.

Yea, but that's my point. He checked Sandro against TOAD? Why? What purpose did that serve? Why not against Dieno, the claimed Frog? Or against syllo, the person calling sandro scum and the direct counterwagon to sandro's leadership?


I agree with you absolutely that it's a weird check.

However, people often handle their roles in extremely weird, and blatantly suboptimal, ways.


Let me be devils advocate for a minute. Is it possible he just had a feeling about Toad and since it looked like Sandro would be lynched the following day it would be an easy way to check out Toad?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 18:19 GMT
#3187
On November 26 2012 03:16 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:15 Dienosore wrote:
On November 26 2012 03:12 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: but I'm not voting Oats until I obtain some assurance that TC is not in the party


Oats and I agreed earlier on a team consisting of me/marv/clarity


I would vote for that
I'm totally blaming marv if the event fails ^^


Me three, no joke
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#3188
##Unvote
##Oatsmaster
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 20:30 GMT
#3226
How about we speculate about the setup speculation now that grey swooped in and stopped the setup speculation. No.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 20:56 GMT
#3231
@ TC

It's not a defense of him at all. I return to the thread and everyone is speculating setup, grey swoops in and shuts it down and you guys start speculating about that. Hopeless is scummy as fuck as he had a case made on him that said he added nothing and he's setup speculating again. TC you keep pointing out random stuff that has no connection and try to make a big deal out of it but I have yet to see you make a coherent point.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 21:19 GMT
#3233
On November 23 2012 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Hey thread I'm at the airport
Flying to visit my old college roommate in Britain
I'll post as much as I can but idk how consistent wifi ill have
Plz not to kill me like last time I went on vacation - that's the only time I've ever been mostly chef an I'd rather not repeat it


I've read this post a couple of times.... judging from snb's last game (mario mini) this could just be him being an idiot but I am so irked by him right now.
You don't know ahead of time you're getting on a plane and going on "vacation"? Why even sign up. Why not say so ahead of time.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 21:36 GMT
#3235
On November 26 2012 06:28 phagga wrote:
K, I'm all for a party with Oats and Dieno. Since Oats has the character matching this time and is willing to listen to input of high profile town players like syllo, I will put my vote on him.

##Vote Oatsmaster


Phagga if this was a lynch cycle and we couldn't lynch Toad, who'd you vote for?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 21:47 GMT
#3237
On November 26 2012 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
i'm quite happy with an oats/dieno/me/clarity team

Apart from anything else I can't see Clarity playing silly buggers with me as mafia, it makes no sense.


What's that mean? You silly british person.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 22:00 GMT
#3244
Phagga's day 2 and 3 have been rather lackluster, his disappearance just now is not encouraging. Also where the hell is Hapa? He's doing that thing he did in mario again (although the scum QT showed he actually was just busy so.... eh)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 22:58 GMT
#3296
On November 26 2012 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 07:43 Dienosore wrote:
haha, so does this mean toad is going to take 500 dmg bcz no is voting for him?

He says that since Oats placed a vote at some point during day 1 he didn't take damage. The vote doesn't have to remain on him for it to negate the damage (from what Toad has said)


Seriously though isn't that the silliest thing you've ever heard?
Where is the danger in saying "please vote and unvote me every cycle"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:01 GMT
#3300
I guess it might be countdown to Lavos. It still seems rather fast though, since no one has died so far other than a lynch. (I'm not counting the modkill)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:03 GMT
#3303
No, he means 10. Pull out your calculator, boys.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:05 GMT
#3306
On November 26 2012 08:03 kitaman27 wrote:
My current preferred party:

Dienosore - Target of the bulk of the day one kp, sucessful on day one.

Oats - Successful on day one, role matches the era, claims to have bused sandroba and syllo, which explains the damage that wasn't making sense to me on sandroba.

Kitaman27 - I was the first person to oppose sandroba's election. I brought up my experience with sandroba in a previous election game to show how he can change his scum meta when he has something he wants. When syllo and sandroba were intent on bringing each other along, I brought up how the mafia would be content with either selection. I've been the target of 3 different anti-town roles. There was some amount of push to get me lynched yesterday with sandroba on the block.

Prom - After the day post, he votes sandroba right off the bat, which matches up with the knowledge he would have that sandroba visited syllo. While his role claim came later in the cycle when sandroba was going to likely be lynched, it probably sealed his fate. As far as I can tell, his mass roleblock role was only one use. If this is the case, I disagree with syllo's assessment that the role would be overpowered for town. Prom, if this isn't the case, please claim.

I don't think Marv should be selected. We know that he visited syllo, but we don't have a confirmation of his healing role. Yesterday, he came out looking quite poor leading the opposition lynch on myself, while switching to sandroba only when it was clear he wasn't returning. I don't see how he is considered one of the top four players in terms of towniness so far this game.


The moment you try to explain why you're towny you're in major wifom territory. I think prom is an odd choice.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:13 GMT
#3320
In fact, the #9 was late, it said so in the actual post too. The numbers are 10 hours apart, meaning in 70 hours the countdown will hit 0.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:25 GMT
#3338
On November 26 2012 08:23 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
And so marv is gonna choose to ignore me. hm


naw, i just missed it. i'll have a proper look now.


Z-Bo, although I'm inclined to be lazy right now because we have our lynch for tomorrow (presuming we have one) I would say from the tone of his posts Hopeless is probably town.


We got our lynch and shit, but I really think we should focus on other reads.
I disagree with you that he's town because of his posts alone, as I've stated he has shown quite some mafia mentality.

Also, do you think sand was bussed?? Phagga and I seem to disagree on this.


What does that mean, all people on sand are confirmed town? I don't see where you're going with this. There's no way to know, yeah some scum probably bussed him and some probably didn't
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:30 GMT
#3345
On November 26 2012 08:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:23 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
And so marv is gonna choose to ignore me. hm


naw, i just missed it. i'll have a proper look now.


Z-Bo, although I'm inclined to be lazy right now because we have our lynch for tomorrow (presuming we have one) I would say from the tone of his posts Hopeless is probably town.


We got our lynch and shit, but I really think we should focus on other reads.
I disagree with you that he's town because of his posts alone, as I've stated he has shown quite some mafia mentality.

Also, do you think sand was bussed?? Phagga and I seem to disagree on this.


What does that mean, all people on sand are confirmed town? I don't see where you're going with this. There's no way to know, yeah some scum probably bussed him and some probably didn't


No. If you read the last page or two, I said I feel that sand was most likely bussed (ergo, toad).
Phagga is giving gk a town read based on the fact that he didn't want people to vote for anyone other than sand or toad, and I'm not sure I agree with this logic.


Scum most likely bussed Sand, therefore toad is scum....

There are a lot of reasons Toad is probably scum right now, but that is probably not one of them.
As for Phagga's analysis on GK, he basically called him null by the end of it so.... don't read too much into it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:35 GMT
#3350
On November 26 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:
on a sidenote, VE has done some serious disappearing.


Hapa too.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 25 2012 23:36 GMT
#3352
On November 26 2012 08:35 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 08:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:23 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
And so marv is gonna choose to ignore me. hm


naw, i just missed it. i'll have a proper look now.


Z-Bo, although I'm inclined to be lazy right now because we have our lynch for tomorrow (presuming we have one) I would say from the tone of his posts Hopeless is probably town.


We got our lynch and shit, but I really think we should focus on other reads.
I disagree with you that he's town because of his posts alone, as I've stated he has shown quite some mafia mentality.

Also, do you think sand was bussed?? Phagga and I seem to disagree on this.


What does that mean, all people on sand are confirmed town? I don't see where you're going with this. There's no way to know, yeah some scum probably bussed him and some probably didn't


No. If you read the last page or two, I said I feel that sand was most likely bussed (ergo, toad).
Phagga is giving gk a town read based on the fact that he didn't want people to vote for anyone other than sand or toad, and I'm not sure I agree with this logic.


Scum most likely bussed Sand, therefore toad is scum....

There are a lot of reasons Toad is probably scum right now, but that is probably not one of them.
As for Phagga's analysis on GK, he basically called him null by the end of it so.... don't read too much into it.


Clarity you are not understanding a thing I say. Sand was bussed. Evidence of this is the fact that Toad, who is almost confirmed scum, voted for him.


My point is I don't see what you're getting at, like at all.
You asked marv is sand was bussed and he said "probably by some"
So what's your point?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 26 2012 00:55 GMT
#3389
On November 25 2012 16:38 Dienosore wrote:
Im not going to tell you how much dmg I took last night, sorry, djo.

That being said, here is the claimed dmg report so far:

+ Show Spoiler +

Happahauli : 100 dmg
Kitaman27 : 50 dmg
Iamp : 30 dmg + a heal
Acro : 30 dmg
Djo : 30 dmg
Clarity : 30 dmg


Also, here is a list of notable claims and developments:

+ Show Spoiler +

- prome claims marv targeted syllo with a spell
- marv says hes a medic
- kita says new game is if hapa, oats, or phagga vote for him, he dmgs ppl
- keirathi claims to be 600ad char, possibly medic?
- oats claims robo and has multiple abilities
- Thechronicler claims he can see if two people are the same alignment, incriminated toad
- acro knows chronicler is being truthful, doesnt want to come into the group, says toad is queen zeal
- toad claims johnny, the attention whore robot, going to use 200 hp heal, redistrubute hp by hitting people, exposed as queen zeal scum by acro


FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 26 2012 01:12 GMT
#3392
I actually didn't notice that last quote, Hapa. Did hopeless ever claim being damaged?
With that, I'm off to bed. Sorry for a lazy day, it's not a lynch cycle so we have some time, tomorrow it's back to serious scumhunting. Sorry zbo for the confusion I just genuinely did not see what you were getting at.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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