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Mr. Cheesecake
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I'm trying to come up with scenarios that will play well in my head if either guy flips town. I think the lesser of the two evils is Munk at this point, simply due to passiveness and ultra mega sheepy attitude. People rolling their face over Yamato because of my few posts doesn't sit well with me... Crap, I hope this ain't a mistake. ##Vote: Munk-E The Cheese will take his leave. Best of luck guys. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
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On November 27 2012 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote: also to everyone who said that I tunneled CC, You do not understand what tunneled MEANS. This. Tunneling and an lolvote are two different things. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On November 27 2012 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote: well. 1 down, 5 to go. What? Are you trying to get yourself lynched? Why do I feel like that belongs in your scum QT. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I almost angry because there is a severe lack of popcorn after the night post. Anyone? @Kick It almost seems too scummy to be true. That's why I was hesitant. He's either obvious scum or he's friggen oblivious. Either way, a detriment to town. I can't believe I let that lurker lynch go through, should of stuck to my guns on yamato. I think I know the direction I'll be heading in throughout tonight and (maybe) tomorrow. I need sleep. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
100% based on WIFOM, I've never seen anything so terrible. The synopsis: You voted Munk-E so you wouldn't be responsible for my mislynch! A) We don't know if you're a mislynch. In fact, I should have just lynched your scummy ass when I had the chance instead of feeling sorry for you. The only reason I switched was because I've done the same thing to someone else and he reacted the same way as town. Terrible reason, I know, but it seemed like only me and sdm were trying to figure the whole thing out and that left me guessing; nobody else had a strong stance. By the time I got back everyone for some reason went on Munk and changing my vote would have meant nothing. B) Here's some wifom: Why would I switch votes when that is suspicious? According to you, either way I'm directing the flow of a mislynch which is bad. Tunneling you to death would be "bad", switching votes is "bad", your logic is double sided and can literally go either way. No matter what I do, I'll look scummy to you. It's pathetic town play if you are, and downright scummy play in essence. If Yamato was really town, he wouldn't be attacking me right now. A ton of people were flip flopping, look at Jacob for God's sake, and then Oats just trails on the Munk wagon. Everything in his case screams OMGUS, and has literally no substance to it at all. My top two scumreads right now are oats and yamato. Scumteam if association cases are viable this early. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Why the fuck are you defending me? Also, what makes you sooooo sure you'll live to see Day 2? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I like you, Kickstart. I'm really starting to like you. Logic trumps all. I'm just surprised nobody else is like lolthiscaseisterrible. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Warning: If you are allergic to terrible scum play, do not look directly at the quotes in this post. Please consult your doctor before using or witnessing bad scum plays. Stating the Obvious: On November 25 2012 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that accurate day 1 reads are difficult to make due to the low sample size and if we lynch the lurkers, everyone has to contribute which will help in making more accurate reads. As one of the first posts, Oats states the obvious. What is the purpose in giving us information that we already know? Why do you want to lynch a lurker so much D1 -- because you know scum will be active? Contradiction: On November 25 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Yes totally agree with Cheesecake. only 5/9 are here, where are the rest On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote: I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him So you agree with me, but then get a scum feeling at the same time. Okay brah. If you think I'm scum, you really shouldn't be agreeing with me at all. I've got this feeling, this wonderful feeling: On November 25 2012 13:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Im seriously not sarcastic. Seriously. Its a feeling, I cant base it off anything though :/ What kind of town feels someone is scum, but can't base it off of ANYTHING? This is even contradictory in itself, because he later said that he found my 3rd question answer scummy, but here he can't base it off of anything... On November 25 2012 21:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Kickstart, I am saying you OMGUS voted me. Which you did. I would love to make a case on Cheesecake if he posted more than 10 posts... My vote in cheese is based on FEELING. Your vote on me is because you think that my vote is bullshit. Therefore, you OMGUS me :l Refusal to give any evidence: On November 25 2012 22:47 Oatsmaster wrote: OH YES FINALLY, you say why my behaviour is scummy. :D My explanation is that his first 2 posts seem off. What do you want? Cheesecake posted less than 10 posts, how can you garner any evidence from that? How can you garner any evidence from my posts, then? Why are you voting me if literally nothing can be found in my posts? His "explanation" of voting me: On November 25 2012 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL kickstart learning from the vets huh. there are like 4 pages of content, I challenge you to find a case out of that. A proper case that has scum reasons for certain posts. ok about cheesecake This post looks like he is being light-hearted, especially with the Pie and Cheesecake question. I feel that it is an act, the post looks VERY deliberate in being casual. Then here, a reason for people to be lurking is because we havent called them out. He basically says, I will lynch a lurker/anybody. Which is good reason to hop onto any bandwagon that is benefical for scum. Like lynching an inactive town/active but bad town Firstly, a scumread based on my Pie or Cheesecake question? That's the sort of thing townies overlook because it's a null tell either way. Why is Oats so focused on it? Why does he think it's so deliberately casual? What an easy thing for a scum to nitpick on. Secondly, he blatantly misinterprets my quote. Where did I say I will lynch anybody??? Nowhere. I said I would lynch a lurker if I had to (which, incidently, I kinda was). The only thing I was saying was I don't want people to lurk. He's trying to find shit that isn't there... Whatever this post is: On November 26 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Cheesecake, you completely miss the point about the first post. I said you are TRYING too hard to be casual and it ends up looking fake. So therefore you are scum trying to gain town image by starting a discussion. However, the discussion has nothing to do with scum reads and such, it is basically fluff that you want from your questions. so I think that you are scum because you APPEAR to be helping town when in actual fact, you are putting up a facade. So much WIFOM it's hilarious. Also, what about lurker lynching is fluff??? That's how almost every game starts (and sometimes drags on forever...) The only thing that is fluff is the joke question, but even then it's one word. Get over it. If you're seriously basing a case on me over a joke question, it's such a desperate play. On November 26 2012 10:40 Oatsmaster wrote: I made that case so that you guys could see how bad of a case it was.. And it got bashed horrendously. Thanks for seeing my point of view. Im still on the fence about Cheesecake because he hasnt actually posted any reads, just responded to people. I am inclined to think that SDM is town because he made a longass post on CC. Lol who does that? If you made that case to be purposefully bad--Why is your vote still on me for most of D1? On November 26 2012 16:05 Oatsmaster wrote: I have a strong feeling that he is scum. I cant prove it due to having less than 10 posts to analyse. On the fence means that I didnt see anything from him to change my vote. Okay so you made the case so people could see how bad it was... but you still have a "strong feeling" I'm scum? And you still can't prove it. If you truly made that case to be purposefully bad, what is the town motivation for doing so? I really can't think of any. On November 26 2012 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote: nah, I think that he was kinda sad about the mafia game because he got played, so now he is trying to make sure that it doesnt happen to him again. Looking through Cheesecake's filter right now. This posts seems completely irrelevent, why post such a long post if you have a null read on them? To give you an excuse to get off their back. Then he calls Yamato hypocritical when in fact, he is doing the same thing. He has not commented on either kickstart's vote on me or the other people on Yamato. What an easy point to make. I make a post calling someone neutral, and therefore I'm slightly suspicious of them. There is literally no town motivation for condemning this post. The second part of this quote is soft-defending Yamato, and doesn't even address the fact that the timing of Yamato's post is Clarity-class scummy. I was not even doing close to the same thing. Le vote post: On November 27 2012 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL ok nice job kickstart. vitrol and fire is a good way to play as town. :D CC is unusually uncaring about my vote and the fact that no one thinks that I am scum/ he is town. I think that the best lynch for today is Munk-e ##Unvote ##Vote: Munk-E Blatant sheep onto Munk-E. Why not Yamato?? Doesn't even mention the other case one bit. This bullshit: On November 27 2012 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote: well. 1 down, 5 to go. Town motivation for making this post: Zero. A joke? Really? Just after a townie is lynched, he shows no remorse at all and cracks a joke. Something like this is either a blatant scumslip, an arrogant townie, or something that belongs in his QT (they actually aren't that hard to mess up, I almost did it in xxix) On November 27 2012 12:32 Oatsmaster wrote: So vote CC anyone? also yeah how the hell would I mispost that when the 2 sites look TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Actually I think out of everyone who didnt vote for Munk-e, aqua looks the scummiest Wtf are you trying to do here, Oats? Spread suspicion on me, for what? Says aqua is the scummiest but doesn't even give evidence to the matter. On November 27 2012 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote: the QT site and TL. Google it. Kickstart has been emotionally invested defending CC and attacking me. Scum will be more detached because they know that I am town and thus, are not as convinced. Aqua is the only other dude so by process of elimination, he is the scummiest. I will look through his filter later and see whats in there LOL what kind of town has a scumread based on process of elimination?!?! I remember Debears and I trying to find mislynch targets by eliminating the most towny-looking candidates by this process. On November 27 2012 16:12 Oatsmaster wrote: So there is 1 mafia in kickstart or Aqua right? Can you make a case on either one? I cant. Are you SERIOUS? You think Aqua is the scummiest, but can't bear the effort to make a case or even A POINT against him? Don't get the town to do your dirty work for you. On November 27 2012 00:12 Oatsmaster wrote: I am content to sit on cheese? I started the wagon. So kickstart, who do you think is scum then? after your rant and hopefully your emotions are cooled This just screams "I don't care what townie is lynched, this one will do." You obviously don't give two shits who is lynched. Why don't you want change your opinion? Prolly afraid of coming off as scummy because you're reiterating that you've started the wagon. And finally: On November 27 2012 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote: if scum kills tonight, 4 v 2. Mislynch 3 v 2, kill again, 2 v 2. so yeah.. lets get working. Debears personally told me not to do this in the thread as scum. Town do not think about a lylo situation ahead of time. Town aren't concerned with the state of affairs if x or y happens with nk's and mislynches. Our goal is to find scum, not dwell over the useless. The only people thinking about a lylo two days ahead of time are scum. Just a quick draft prolly some mistakes in there, but you guys get the drift. Lol @ all the stuff Yamato is trying to promote now that I refresh. I'll get started right away. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Where is he in any discussion? I don't recall him ever being here for something useful. He pops in, gives his read on Oats, playing super ultra mega neutral. When I call him out for it, He posts an original case on the easiest person: a lurker. Says Munk-E isn't seeming so scummy, but still doesn't want to lynch Yamato. That pretty much sums up his contribution to the thread. He's not actively in discussions. I fail to see him giving two shits about who is lynched, because he just kind of put the munk thing out there and let it stir. I've never seen him give a solid opinion of anyone else but the lurker and a safe interpretation of Oats. Doesn't seem like he cares or spends a good amount of time to benefit town. FoS HeloKnight @Jacob What the fuck have you done this entire game besides posting semi-reads here and there. 80% of your filter is short snippets of nothingness. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Okay I'm going to make this clear: I should have kept my vote on Yamato. Switching over to Munk was a huge mistake on my part, because I was so damn confused at the situation. Why were people sheeping onto my case so quickly? What was the deal with Munk? Why did Kick put his vote on Yamato? ("that's all I needed to hear") quote. This, and Yamato kept making me feel bad with his whiny posts. I had to leave early and made one of those quick spur of the moment decisions that should never be made, but you do it anyway. We can blame the mislynch on me, go ahead, but I'm just confused as to why people followed in my wake. When I got back 8 mins before lynch, I was so surprised people were sticking so hard to the lurker lynch over Yamato. In those 8 minutes I reevaluated my decision and realized "Shit, why did I do that? If Yamato doesn't get lynched I'm just going to keep wondering" but at that point it was too late. Yamato, focus on someone besides me. Tunneling me over this stupid decision won't do any good. If you're town, you'll realize that fact. I'm looking at HeloKnight, Aqua, and Oats mainly right now. SDM, what do you think of each of them? I think Aqua's little exodus of last-minute voting fiasco is just a play to say: "Hey guys, I didn't vote for either of them, I'm in the clear." He seemed so distant from the lynch at hand, he didn't even give his vote on one of the main targets. That, and he was playing mega neutral early game. Helo is just inactive and doesn't seem to really weigh in on discussions, and was just sitting back with his vote on Munk-E with his feet propped up. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Your opinion is the only one I've been valuing in this thread mainly because of your experience and my town read on you. Ever since you made that case on me, in the back of my mind I was like "Okay, SDM is probably town". The fact that you did a whole meta case with relevant past information was awesome. Even if it wasn't good, it shows you weren't afraid to be wrong. You also seem like you care more than anybody else who is going to get lynched. That's why I think you're town, and at this point it's almost cemented in my mind. You accuse me of not wanting to butt heads with you or sheeping a bit. I can see that, it's understandable. This is my first town game (excluding XXX lolness) so I'm not used to having nobody to bounce ideas off of that's actively in the game. So, I guess you're my confidant as a good town read. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Mr. Cheesecake
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 . Think you're too obvious the target to be shot in the face. Anywhom, I really must agree with the terrible town play. Myself included with that lolmunk switch. Dthe fact that aqua parkedhis vote on kick is suspicious mainly because he dun give a fk who would be lynched. Ofc i knew that in xxix, and is the reason i forced myself to switch onto one of the popular two bandwagons, which i even used to defend myself later that game. Can't see the reason having a random vote out there is a good thing, other than to separate yourself from a town flip. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
If you're town, please prove it. Give the thread a few reasons why you're worthy of keeping around, and what you have done to ensure that we listen to you. What have you done specifically, besides "promote discussion", that has been town motivated? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On November 27 2012 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL ok nice job kickstart. vitrol and fire is a good way to play as town. :D CC is unusually uncaring about my vote and the fact that no one thinks that I am scum/ he is town. I think that the best lynch for today is Munk-e ##Unvote ##Vote: Munk-E If anyone knows someone's town, you do. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Too scummy to be scum is a fail argument. Fixed that for you. | ||
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