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Just looking over ZB's filter he has barely pushed v7 at all. The cases of his on both hapa and Keir are much stronger IMO and have a lot more time invested. Townie ZB tries to canvass support hardcore when he pushes like that. But this game he hasn't really bothered.
I would fully expect ZB to be pushing Keir right now. As most of his interaction has been towards him. I would not expect him to just lynch a 'liability' like that. Especially when he has his own cases that he usually tries to canvass support for. It's like he doesn;t care about the lynch as much as usual.
For reference. In XXVIII when I caught Kush with a super obvious scum slip ZB STILL did not want to lynch him until after kush was being bussed and went full troll mode on the thread.
I went over his scum filter from XXIV briefly.That is like the only game of his in which he pushed lurkers happily over those he had made cases/reads on.
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On October 23 2012 01:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 01:01 iamperfection wrote:On October 23 2012 00:36 DarthPunk wrote:On October 23 2012 00:20 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm onboard with austin, especially after v7's response. He did a very poor job at making a contribution. Said he would read thread and reply and so far has done naught.
He's fitting the category of "A liability who has a fair chance of popping scum" and I'm up to kill him right now. And now I don't want to lynch him at all. um what are you saying here? That ZB just doesn't say things like that as town. That is the kind of thing I say as scum. I already had a bad feeling about ZB because there are a couple of town tells of his that he hasn't conformed to this game. I have played in his last 4 games. And this just doesn't fit with how he deals with 'liabilities' Be it grush or BM or Kush or Shady. I have never EVER seen this argument from him in regards to far worse players in far worse situations. Town ZB requires MUCH more than that to lynch someone and usually doesn't like lynching 'liabilities' or Lurkers at all. He is MUCH more likely to make an alternative case of his own than to go along with the prevailing sentiment. Also his play this game has been eerily similar to his scum meta from XXIV. He even admits it. And blames it on activity. But he has still been fairly active. So that is no reason for ZB to be playing to his scum meta. That is why I don't want to lynch V7 anymore.
I just went back through Z-Bo's filter because of this post.
On October 21 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote:@Townatm I don't have any real suspect that I'd be willing to place my vote on. I'm leaning townie on Drazak and DarthPunk. Not too sure on Hapahauli, his play right now seems a bit passive compared to his usual self. Feels like he's using the same tell over and over again (i.e. posting something than disappearing) and being a little uncharacteristically calm with his pressuring. My top suspicions, nevertheless, are iamperfection, Keirathi and v7.I will not be placing my vote on v7 yet, at least until he has a chance to defend himself and make any sort of contribution. I feel his absence is not necessarily alignment-indicative, for now. @marvHow has Keir not been receiving attention, I spent quite some time tunneling him. I'll point this out once again, which is something I'm finding important and would like to see your comment on. When I questioned him about his lack of follow-up, he mentioned his IRL excuses, which was already perfectly fair, but he felt the need to add this: Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:47 Keirathi wrote:On October 21 2012 01:34 Z-BosoN wrote:Well I got sniped. Anyways, On October 21 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote:On October 21 2012 00:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Yah I'm a bit surprised at how little Kei has contributed so far. Early D1 caveats of course, but I always had the impression that his town play was very active on the early days.
It was friday night. I went out. I wasn't expecting the game to start yesterday, and I wasn't going to change my plans anyways. Also, that's such a blanket statement (and not even necessarily a true one...I've not been super active early in like half of my games), that has absolutely nothing to do with my alignment. I was "very active" in the early game as scum too. So what was the point of even saying that? On October 20 2012 23:58 Z-BosoN wrote:
Right now I'm more interested in Keirathi. Made this one easy-to-make post, and didn't really stick around, made no other comments. This seems to me like too easy of a post for someone like Keir to make, and doesn't seem genuine.
What the fuck does that even mean? "Someone like Keir"? And also, explain how that post isn't genuine, please. Darth's post, pre-explanation, made absolutely zero sense, and I disagreed with him asking it. Post-explanation, it was still dumb and never going to accomplish what he said his "goal" was, but at least I understand his reasoning now. Anyways, its gameday. I'll be around off and on today, but not sitting at the computer all day. Why the overreaction? I found your post to be an useless agreement that didn't add anything, and your lack of follow-up even more suspicious. The underlined is why I didn't find it to be genuine, given that there were a string of posts after your own which dealt with it. I fully agree that it was dumb, but you left no opinion of it. That's just saying something and drawing no conclusions from it, and even worse, not looking like you want to draw any conclusions. I can be wrong here, but your post to me didn't feel genuine and I think that makes you suspicious. What? I made it perfectly clear what my opinion on it was. It was a bullshit post, and I called it that, and wanted him to explain. I was not, and am not, going to make any decisions about his alignment based on that. He at least provided a plausible explanation, even if it does feel a little "made up after-the-fact" because someone called him out on it. I don't think it makes him scummy, nor do I think it makes him town. What, exactly, is the point of saying "Yea, he's still neutral"? Which, to me, feels like an attempt of an additional excuse. Also, I find it interesting that you did not mention iamperfection, who's championed his first vote on DarthPunk and made no further comment on it, which I'm finding increasingly scummy - as Liquid City iamperfection was much more active and helpful. @KeirathiI will leave you alone for now, in regards to the above. Anyways, a question on the bolded part: Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 13:28 Keirathi wrote:I don't really like Draz's explanation either. On October 21 2012 09:45 drazak wrote:
So scum are wishywashy (if I unvoted you), but deciding to keep pressure on you is also scummy? You sir are trying to set a trap to catch a townie, not catch scum. First, unvoting isn't being "wishy-washy", assuming you explain yourself. But hell, its not like you even unvoted, nor was DP calling you out FOR unvoting. He was calling you out for leaving your vote on someone who you ostensibly don't believe is scum. It's not a "trap", because he hasn't said anything about you unvoting being scummy to begin with. Voting for someone isn't inherently scummy, obviously, but leaving your vote on someone that you don't have a scum read on is certainly on the scummy side (although, I will admit, that I've seen townies do it too. That doesn't make the action itself less scummy, just that townies can, at times, play scummily). Second, putting pressure isn't scummy either. But, you're not actually putting pressure on him. You just parked a vote there and haven't done anything with it. THAT is scummy. What is the point of your vote right now? Does this mean you also have a scum read on iamperfection? He basically did the same thing, and went awol.
This is the first time Z-Bo mentioned v7 at all. But suddenly he is one of his top scum reads? There wasn't even any reasoning there, just "Yep, v7 is someone I would want to lynch!".
But look at the timing of it. He came in after there were already 3 votes on v7 with that statement. Still no reasoning of his own. That's fishy as fuck.
On October 22 2012 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +Hapahauli wrote:As for my "easy reads", I still stand by them. I like taking stances early in the game. Sometimes I'm wrong about them (actually I was really wrong about DP in mafia LVII while I was alive), but it's a nice way to get things going. Also, I really stand by my town read on DP this game (he has 5 pages of filter already FFS). Starting to waver on Draz a bit due to his recent inactivity. b) I have no problems with your town read on DP. I agree with them. I don't understand why you felt the need to bring this up. I don't think I mentioned that I was troubled with you taking stances early on. My trouble was with the "easy reads on scum, and I think this was quite clear when I mentioned v7, the "easy read" I'm referring to. (Sorry I edited the formatting a bit)
Here he says he is calling Hapa out for the "easy read" on v7, when that's EXACTLY what he did. In fact, he didn't (and still hasn't) give any reasoning of his own. Just sheeped onto the current bandwagon.
That's enough for me.
##Vote: Z-BosoN
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oh huh that's actually pretty good. I'll give Z-Bo yet another look.
The wonders of D1 scumhunting.
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@ DP
On October 23 2012 00:35 DarthPunk wrote:
WEll I for one have tried pushing a lynch on drazak. But noone agreed with me QQ.
As far as I am concerned all we are waiting on is V7 to come and make his promised post. If he doesn't. Or it is unsatisfactory we lynch him. I don't feel like anyone aside from draz and V7 are partciularly inactive or lazy.
Draz is still by far my biggest scum read and t has only strengthened. He was called out for inactivity be several of us if I recall correctly. And the post he made was simply a summary of the thread with no real input of his own. Not really scum hunting. Sheeping. etc.
Very passive. Without taking a stance. Whcih is odd coming from someone who parked a 'pressure' vote on someone for over 24 hours.
Problem is that this is Draz's town meta as well. I'm of the opinion that what he's done isn't alignment indicative so far.
@ Austin
On October 23 2012 00:16 austinmcc wrote:
Catching up now, but wanted to throw something out here. It may be anti-town, but I don't quite think it is.
I want to lynch someone. Maybe I'm bloodthirsty, maybe I agree that it's easier to work with flips, maybe I just want the game to move forward so we can actually play mafia instead of D1 hand-holding or whatever it is we're up to. But I would like to lynch a player, sooner, rather than later. I think there are benefits and drawbacks to both town and scum if we let D1 drag on forever, and probably only drawbacks to hosts. As much as I want to keep swapping votes around and see how quickly blazinghand can give updated votecounts...we're not making the setup work for us. We're just dithering around and doing very little.
So I propose we lynch a player. Right now, the player that I want to lynch is v7, see vote. I will look closer at keirathi and hapa while at work today, and going to look marv over as well. If I want to lynch any of them more than v7, then I'll swap my vote and try to drum up support. But this is getting silly and we're all LETTING it get silly.
I would like others' thoughts on this. I don't think an infinite-length D1 actually helps us, and I don't think it makes everyone invested in the game. Look at how lazy most of the thread is, because there's no pressure to do anything. Don't want to contribute? Okay. Just contribute tomorrow, deadline is infinite, no problems guys. That is TRUE, but it's crap, and it's not useful to us imo.
btw, apart from my normal paranoia, this is one thing that makes me suspicious of marv. I know he doesn't like to play setup games, but I would expect townmarv to be a little more bloodthirsty, be pushing someone a little more, and not be willing to play infinite D1 pattycake.
Am I the only one with this thought? Are people just worried to type it out because "let's lynch someone NOW, instead of later with more information" feels like it might be anti-town?
Agree here, I'd like a flip as well. However, I do want to wait until we here some from v7. I think shooting for a 72-hour day at this point is realistic.
Since you brought up marv - he hasn't stuck much out to me which is odd, and I feel he's a bit detatched from the game. But part of it is probably because of his afk'ness in the first 24 hours, as well as just finishing another mini. I'll have my eye on him, but I'm not lynching him today.
@ Kei
Typing a Z-Bo post atm.
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Back from lunch, looking at Z-BosoN and a couple others.
On October 23 2012 02:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Agree here, I'd like a flip as well. However, I do want to wait until we here some from v7. I think shooting for a 72-hour day at this point is realistic.
We are already at ... 65 hours.
Moreover, at least in GSL 2, thinking in terms of 72-hour days, or any specific time limit, instead of "We are the town and we should be lynching scum, at whatever point we find them" was not helpful to us.
I strongly believe that some of the apathy that seems to be a part of this game is because of the deadlines. There is no deadline rush, there is no reason for people to have to act NOW. Waiting x numbers of hours to do something, or aiming to end a day at a certain point in time, is malleable and generally has not been productive for us.
Once I go back through things and figure out who I'm willing to lynch, I feel like I'm just going to conclude all my posts with On March 13 2012 07:02 Palmar wrote:
Blood for the Blood God
Skulls for the Skull Throne
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Regarding Z-Bo
#1) I don't think his v7 contradiction (attacking me for "easy" read while having an easy read himself) is lynchable on its own. It's definitely strange, and I want an answer for it, but I'm not lynching him for that alone. One of my general hesitancies with lynching Z-Bo based on that read is him being all-over-the-place in terms of suspicions. He's building cases on a bunch of people in the thread, and that lines up pretty well with his townie meta (though, he has no recent scumgames, so it could be scummy as well for all we know. I'll have to look into that more)
#2) There's one other thing I want an answer for in his filter though.
On October 22 2012 07:16 Z-BosoN wrote:Man, are you really gonna dive into the semantics? 1) Ok, you want me to say it was a Good fake case? ffs 2) To be frank, I didn't bother checking the exact time frame. Your uber-confidence was an assumption I made based on this: Show nested quote +What's there to answer? You haven't asked me anything about the v7 vote that I didn't answer already. You still also have not addressed why you don't think my rationale is insufficient. You are confident on your vote, not confident on him being scum. To be clear, try this: Show nested quote +So, based on your weird-ass interpretation of the word "unjust", you unvote someone you had a scum-read on, a vote which came before he went afk for an additional 12 hours or more. Also, you are still not being concise about my "Hypocrisy". Again. you took a small portion of my case and used it to deem it weak, fake, forced, bad, whatever. That's a bunch of crap if you are really trying to find scumminess in my filter. Unjust too whiny a word? Try ridiculous. This is LVII all over again. I'm done with you. Unless you actually really really find me scum (in which case, please, carry on), then this is pointless. I find you suspicious, I don't understand some of your actions, I found your initial meta off (now it's pretty much dead on) but that's about it, I'm not lynching you over v7/Keir and I will need more time to think if your actions make more sense from townie you or scummy you.
The statement at the end there (bolded) makes no sense with the rest of that paragraph. In LVII, I was town, and Z-Bo is treating me in that first line like I'm town - the only rationale he acknowledges for my "tunneling" of him is if I find him scum (that I'm town). Then in his second sentence, he's all of a sudden suspicious of me, which is of direct contrast with his first statement.
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^ To elaborate on the LVII line - in LVII, we were both townies, and he seems to be suggesting that this game was a similar town-on-town violence situation. Then he find me suspicious, then says my meta is dead on. Weeeee.
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he built A bunch of cases in his scum game also. Filter ZB XIV The thing was though he didn't follow through on them. Unlike when he is town and unlike this game. In his scum game he ended up voting for the lurker in spite of far more solid cases on others. Bear in mind this was his first game. But there are some parallels albeit obscured ones.
I have never seen ZB sheep a wagon like this as town.
##Vote: Z - Boson
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On October 23 2012 02:18 austinmcc wrote:Back from lunch, looking at Z-BosoN and a couple others. Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Agree here, I'd like a flip as well. However, I do want to wait until we here some from v7. I think shooting for a 72-hour day at this point is realistic. We are already at ... 65 hours.
Oh damn seriously? Time flies huh. Well I still want to wait for v7 to post. Also Z-Boson in light of recent suspicions.
Moreover, at least in GSL 2, thinking in terms of 72-hour days, or any specific time limit, instead of "We are the town and we should be lynching scum, at whatever point we find them" was not helpful to us.
I strongly believe that some of the apathy that seems to be a part of this game is because of the deadlines. There is no deadline rush, there is no reason for people to have to act NOW. Waiting x numbers of hours to do something, or aiming to end a day at a certain point in time, is malleable and generally has not been productive for us.
I agree, but what's the remedy? Any suggestions how to take care of this?
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Vote Count!
vaderseven (3) - austinmcc, iamperfection, drazak
Z-Boson (2) Keirathi, DarthPunk,
Not Voting (4) - Marvellosity, vaderseven, Z-Boson, Hapahauli
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day ends when a majority is reached.[/QUOTE]
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On October 23 2012 02:36 DarthPunk wrote:he built A bunch of cases in his scum game also. Filter ZB XIV The thing was though he didn't follow through on them. Unlike when he is town and unlike this game. In his scum game he ended up voting for the lurker in spite of far more solid cases on others. Bear in mind this was his first game. But there are some parallels albeit obscured ones. I have never seen ZB sheep a wagon like this as town. ##Vote: Z - Boson
^ Good point on the meta
Though I still would like to wait for his defense.
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Shameless copypasta so we don't lynch someone accidentally. I edited in the current tallies.
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On October 23 2012 02:42 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:36 DarthPunk wrote:he built A bunch of cases in his scum game also. Filter ZB XIV The thing was though he didn't follow through on them. Unlike when he is town and unlike this game. In his scum game he ended up voting for the lurker in spite of far more solid cases on others. Bear in mind this was his first game. But there are some parallels albeit obscured ones. I have never seen ZB sheep a wagon like this as town. ##Vote: Z - Boson ^ Good point on the meta Though I still would like to wait for his defense.
Well I am going to bed. So I won't be around to hear it.
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Still think one of the people jumping on DP early is scum. Still like v7 and Keirathi for that person.
v7:
Find his return posts null. Sure, there's less information D1. But that's true for all of us. It's not a reason not to contribute, and I've yet to see a game play out where someone pushes a D1 candidate, D1 candidate flips town, and the pusher is immediately beset upon by the whole town with pitchforks in a lynching spree.
I still don't like the early interactions, I still wasn't voting him because of inactivity. Others seem to have been doing that though, and I actually don't want to push for a lynch in which some/many of the votes are going to be because of inactivity. I don't care if he was inactive in a town game, or a scum game, or whatever. The inactivity isn't really something I get a tell off of, only that I expect scum to have done something during a certain time frame, and he did something during that time frame.
Less so than before, because the way in which he's posted recently feels so null that I wouldn't expect that from a scum player coming back to thread? I'd expect either townie-smelling or scummy-smelling posts, and his were neither imo. Less scummy on him than before because of this, and so not going to push for a lynch on him when I don't like the reasoning behind some of the votes.
hapa:
Eh. Don't want to lynch. Voting a lot, which I like. Made an odd case/post on me, which felt odd, but not quite "forced." Will watch, but without going into oodles of detail, not a player I want to lynch today.
drazak:
His filter so eeeeeeeeempty. Basically no scumreads until yesterday, when v7 is scummy beause of inactivity (still don't like as a basis for a read). Then keir is "probably a little scummy" because of over-reaction and because of calling drazak scummy and then defending him. I keep writing off DP when he says he finds drazak scummy, but there's really no scumhunting in the guy's filter and what is there doesn't feel meaty. Not the amount, your filter can have small amounts of scumhunting meat, but it feels like drazak's filter is all vegetables. See previous post about blood and skulls, vegetables have neither.
I think you've been chided enough, or whatever, drazak, but it would be helpful if you would just toss more thoughts into thread. Either people you find scummy, or at the very least cases you like, reads you like, interesting things you're noting. Yes, some people will call you scummy for sheeping a case or a read or whatever, but who cares. Get active, get bloodthirsty. You're currently difficult to read but I'm not convinced you're scum.
Overall, do not want to lynch, but after reading through his filter I'm more inclined to view him as mafia. That probably sounds wishy washy. I don't care.
Keirathi and Z-BosoN thoughts coming, but splitting up these posts because thoughts on them will be longer.
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On October 23 2012 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:18 austinmcc wrote:Back from lunch, looking at Z-BosoN and a couple others. On October 23 2012 02:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Agree here, I'd like a flip as well. However, I do want to wait until we here some from v7. I think shooting for a 72-hour day at this point is realistic. We are already at ... 65 hours. Oh damn seriously? Time flies huh. Well I still want to wait for v7 to post. Also Z-Boson in light of recent suspicions. Show nested quote +Moreover, at least in GSL 2, thinking in terms of 72-hour days, or any specific time limit, instead of "We are the town and we should be lynching scum, at whatever point we find them" was not helpful to us.
I strongly believe that some of the apathy that seems to be a part of this game is because of the deadlines. There is no deadline rush, there is no reason for people to have to act NOW. Waiting x numbers of hours to do something, or aiming to end a day at a certain point in time, is malleable and generally has not been productive for us. I agree, but what's the remedy? Any suggestions how to take care of this?
(1) not suggesting we wait x hours
(2) getting scum to concede
We have no way of FORCING activity. We have no vigilantes to add town KP. We're stuck with what we have. The solution is to hope we've got a doc who can save an active townie or two, because at this rate if we lose 2 or so active townies to NKs then the game is going to go downhill FAST.
(3) Here's what I think the ACTUAL solution is. We discuss options for a little longer, and then we actually lynch someone. I would prefer to lynch scum, but will settle for scummy at this point even.
We just came out of a game that was crappy because of our own inactivity. This game was an invite game, in part, to cure that. And yet we're in a very similar situation. The solution is NOT to get angry and berate low activity players. The solution is not for every player to fill a post or two or three with whining about inactivity. The solution is for us to take it upon ourselves to craft an environment where people want to contribute, and do so.
So I think we lynch. I think we move forward. I think we all get our thoughts in the open, even if we think someone is going to leap on them for being scummy. Like, I was dithering yesterday over whether to just come out and suggest we lynch someone, even if it's a townie. I think we need that. I think we need to quit worrying about what's scummy or townie or anything, and get thoughts into the thread. We don't immediately gang up on anyone and shut them down if they post something scummy, because that actually seems to have been counterproductive. Everyone just stop being afraid of posting something, looking scummy, whatever, and play the game.
Bolded for my main thoughts.
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Keirathi:
I wrote some stuff here but it was super wishy-washy and it's just my thoughts that don't go anywhere. So instead, could you update your read on iamperfection, in long-form?
He's not being talked about, but you said he felt "kind of town" and noted that you felt confident in meta-reading him. Could you just blabber on in a post or two about what read you get from him based on his play this game and based on meta?
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On October 22 2012 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 04:01 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 03:20 Z-BosoN wrote:Pretty much. It's more of the tone of his posts. On Liquid City, note how he finds a small breach in detail and immediately tunnels on it. He did the same thing in LVII against me. He demonstrates an aggressive, investigative style. This isn't what I'm viewing from him this game. He's being passive and inconclusive on his reads. His only vote is deemed a "provocation" one. I do not view it as a real attempt at pressure, and his general filter seems off. In my mind the townie austin would have been all over drazak or DP over something such as has happened in this game. Hmmm. I'm glad I don't seem crazy tunnelly. Look at Looney Lynching and my play there, or my comments in obs chat. Yes, I've been exceptionally tunnelly in some recent games. It didn't work out well. I'm curious though, why would you think townie austinmcc would be all over drazak or DP? Because some elements of what they said I figured you would be immediately on their tail.
Z-BosoN, could you answer this in more detail? Why would townie austin have been all over drazak and DP for their early posting?
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That's it for me right now. I'd like to hear response from keirathi and z-boson, and would love for EVERYONE to just vomit stuff into the thread, seriously. Please just share your thoughts, townies. scum, you should feel free to concede.
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DP, that's a real bad tell.
From liquid city:
On October 14 2012 08:23 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 08:16 iamperfection wrote:On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/ shaopi is voting for dp. Yea that's making me uneasy on who to vote. The biggest tagline of my voting on ShiaoPi is being useless with a fair possibility of being scum. The biggest tagline of me wanting to vote DP is that I actually find him scum.
Also, I don't get why people are thinking I'm sheeping. First of all, there's not really much to say on v7.
Second of all, I actually did spend quite some time pondering whether I should give the vote hammer or not. Why are you attacking me right now, and not before? Makes 0 sense.
The hapa thing, I attacked him because he unvoted v7 when I completely disagreed with his reasoning to do so.
@Hapa
All of a sudden? So I spend like 10 posts saying why I think you are suspicious, and you say, "all of a sudden"?
Fuck off. Not willing to lynch you != I think you are townie.
I have no heart defending myself here. Most of this shit comes from a lack of reading and erratic interpretations. I've made cases vs. kei and hapa, but concluded that v7 deserved the best lynch. How is this fucking scummy? Better yet, how is this scummier over ppl like kei and v7 who aren't doing shit?
Wanna talk about sheeping? Try Kei, who hasn't done shit and suddenly goes for me as soon as DP opens the door.
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On October 23 2012 03:17 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:On October 22 2012 04:01 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 03:20 Z-BosoN wrote:Pretty much. It's more of the tone of his posts. On Liquid City, note how he finds a small breach in detail and immediately tunnels on it. He did the same thing in LVII against me. He demonstrates an aggressive, investigative style. This isn't what I'm viewing from him this game. He's being passive and inconclusive on his reads. His only vote is deemed a "provocation" one. I do not view it as a real attempt at pressure, and his general filter seems off. In my mind the townie austin would have been all over drazak or DP over something such as has happened in this game. Hmmm. I'm glad I don't seem crazy tunnelly. Look at Looney Lynching and my play there, or my comments in obs chat. Yes, I've been exceptionally tunnelly in some recent games. It didn't work out well. I'm curious though, why would you think townie austinmcc would be all over drazak or DP? Because some elements of what they said I figured you would be immediately on their tail. Z-BosoN, could you answer this in more detail? Why would townie austin have been all over drazak and DP for their early posting?
Austin, in LVII you were going after me because I was asking about certain roles. Oh, and some other things that pretty much included everything I said.
In Liquid City you went after me because I talked to Node.
Do I really need to be more specific than that?
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