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On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote: In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum. This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way  | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:39 Clarity_nl wrote: Marv you shouldn't ragequit replacement. As scum it would be distasteful to even mention that and I think you know that, and as town it's just not cool and also puts an unfair "mod-confirmed townie" in the game. @ Clarity How a replacement would be "mod-confirmed townie" if marv is town ? | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:40 Lazermonkey wrote: If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true? I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:42 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah, if marv asks for a replacement IN THREAD and ragequits, and then gets replaced instead of modkilled and flipped scum I would call that person town. And that really sucks and it shouldn't happen. Ok, I get you now. I don't think the host is going to allow anything then, you can rest at peace. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:46 thrawn2112 wrote: how does this make sense? you don't think kush is scum because he's not bussing this game? how would you know if he's bussing o.0 Because he would post better cases. Because he would know what to look for. As scum, he would also defend townies. Because this guy loves being right above all. That's the real meta read on scum kush. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:59 thrawn2112 wrote: kush is this your new scum meta? could you possibly be more anti-town? i'm not sensing the "fake rage" that comes along with scum kush but it seems like you are being intentionally uncooperative/unreadable you've done almost 0 independent scumhunting this game, the closest to scumhunting you've reached is your game long tunnel on marv. and most of that wasn't any type of scumhunting, it was either mindless sheeping or calling him scum over and over @ thrawn I don't think it's kush new scum meta. I don't see this guy resisting the urge of being right and defending BC lynch. I really don't think kush is scum. | ||
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On January 05 2013 23:10 Vivax wrote: You're nuts Djo, I would totally lynch Kush. He's scummy, lurky, useless and aggressive. The epitome of anti-town play. That's kush's play. I have just played a game with him, we were both in the scumteam, and you should know that this guy uses the extra-information he has all the time. He defends townie and bus people with the juicy part of their filters. Because he loves being right. Also I cannot prevent himself from doing that. He is the worst scum partner you can ever have. So, even if you think he is scum, you should let him live | ||
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I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure. What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering. On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore. Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this. One other thing I didn't like is this post On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Agreed. I'm sitting the night out. I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to. | ||
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On January 05 2013 23:42 thrawn2112 wrote: why hopeless and mz? i don't see anything about them in your filter True enough, I'm just sheeping Marv's case on MZ and WBG's case on Hopeless ^^ I like Marv's case better though, but I'm a little wary. I'm going to be more active starting now so hopefully I can catch MZ and Hopeless when they are going to be present in the thread. | ||
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On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote: Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that. I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game. I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case. Who else do you have as scum ? | ||
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On January 06 2013 00:01 Lazermonkey wrote: I think its quite obvious that he is joking in the post. And that is what I mean with WIFOM in your case. Either he is serious in which case you are right or he is joking. So it comes down to WIFOM. For example did both grush and VE claim town the first page, would you call them scum for that? Also, the fact that he lied(didn't check hero, or at least didn't say so + never called you scum) is bad play regardless of whether he is scum or town so I don't think it's a very good tell at all. @ LazerMonkey It's bad play, and maybe he is going to check hero or not at the end, but it takes more time or more effort to actually do things as scum in my view. Also the fact that he implied that he was town and going to scumhunt without delivering more than only one time makes him suspicious. | ||
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On January 06 2013 04:35 HiroPro wrote: Sure. His attitude and tone in regards to "vets" and general play overall were exactly what I expected from his town play after the last game he was in. The reads post that he made seemed genuine and resembled how he has posted in the past. Tunkeg is a very easy target to attack as mafia (I've done it myself), and none of the people who said that he was suspicious ever presented any good reasons for why he was mafia. The only person who ever tried to make anything resembling a case was debears, and his post was complete nonsense. Ok, let's assume that Tunkeg is town for a moment. Isn't it as easy for mafia to attack Tunkeg than it is for town. I didn't know him when I played in your game and I was pretty sure he was mafia. It's true that I had at least a case against him while lynching him, but it was not that good, and just the way he reacted to suspicion made him more scum in my eyes. But that was last game. So I don't think it is a good idea to base your reads on how people handle Tunkeg, at least not for the players not knowing him. Also I don't think Tunkeg style to be hard to emulate as scum, even if I agree that Tunkeg/Prom are more likely to be town. I just hope that you are not going to limit yourself on the players who had painted Tunkeg in red  | ||
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Do you have any breadcrumbs ? | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:49 Toadesstern wrote: why's everyone asking for breadcrumbs on d1 for cops lol Again, you don't breadcrumb your role, you breadcrumb your checks as cop so that people figure that out once you're dead, There's no reason to breadcrumb your role, it's actually bad because mafia might figure it out... Even if he did breadcrumb that proves nothing or do you honestly think Mafia-WBG would be not smart enough to prepare a breadcrumb ahead of time? I was cop in my first game and I did breadcrumb my role. It's just my own experience. I have also hinted very obsviously that I was blue in that game ^^ | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:52 iamperfection wrote: yeah i just checked jackals filter which took about 15 seconds he can die. Kind of wish you waited a little to do this bugs but whatever. I second this post. ##Vote jackal | ||
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I don't see mafia framing anyone with 3 cops (now 4) already in the cemetery... I don't understand why mafia chose the 1 for 1 solution. I also believe iamp when he says being protected and shoot, he was confirmed town after all. | ||
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On January 06 2013 09:20 iamperfection wrote: so in the interest of not wasting a cycle i say we proceed as if we are going to lynch someone other than jackal for argument sakes in fact you can even vote here and not in the thread just to show that you mean serious business. IF jackal was not allowed to be lynched today who would you want to lynch and why. I say everyone agrees to this and if you dont we can use it against you later in a court of law. You have no right to remain silent in my courtroom My current top scum read remain to be CC who has continued to be useless continues to throw shit and not push it. IF i could i would lynch him. ## Vote Mr. CC What say you everyone else? I think MZ is a better lynch. I liked Sentinel reaction to pressure, but not at all MZ reaction so far. ##Vote MZ | ||
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