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So I'm just checking in I call Drazerk out for scummy play He says "I play like this always so you can't call me out for it" My response: okay so we lynch you for it, you know it's scummy play but you do it anyway. When is the deadline? | ||
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hiro might be scum because he's posted a lot of small one-liners and asked a bunch of questions but not actually contributed much of anything of his own in terms of reads or analysis. drazerk might be scum because he switched his read from keirathi to me for little reason. not giving any reason why he unvoted keirathi shows that he doesn't really care about who he votes for, he just wants to push the thread around. he knows that he and i often get into shitfights and it's advantageous for him as scum to try and start one, as long as he thinks i won't be able to push a scum read on him through, which he probably does because he's arrogant. the thing is - his argument works both ways around - he says that I should know he doesn't actually try to win as town, but he focuses on third party, so my calling him out for that makes me scum. The thing is, I call him out for that every game - his attempting to call me out on it this game for being scum makes no sense. he's trying to use circular logic but it backfired. mattchew is sort of trying to scumhunt. this is very helpful in narrowing down his playstyle. he's either doing his bus-all-the-scum scum routine, or he's actually townie. mattchew very rarely makes up fake scum reads on town players when he's scum, he either posts cases on his teammates or just lurks the shit out of everything. so what that means is you can put a high amount of trust that his reads are genuine - he's either bussing or actually trying to find scum. crossfire99 - pretty focused on drazerk nisani - lol. what a "case". also ##vote: drazerk I think he's probably scum and I want him out of this game. | ||
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so i assume the plan you're talking about is "make a shitty case on purpose to start discussion" ? it's a god-awful plan, the only discussion you'll start is people saying "what a shitty case, you sure you give a fuck this game?" also kenpachi rule lol also keirathi says "I don't think Drazerk is scummy. I feel like he was just legitimately trying to keep the discussion rolling after I unvoted. You'll notice that I didn't question his motives, I just responded to his questions and kept rolling. He was right to call out my unvote. He's was wrong about my intentions, but it was the right move for a townie." - first drazerk "legitimately trying" as town? you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. second this reads pretty sketchy to me, scum like to ingratiate themselves with townies who are suspicious of them as long as their lynch appears remote. so yeah, keirathi not looking too great to me right now. but i'm not sure about it - i'm actually not sure if you're right to call it a "plan" - sometimes townies do make weak cases right at the start of a day to get the ball rolling. it's just a thing, not a plan or a gambit or whatever. So I think he may not have been thinking to himself, 'i'll make this case as shitty as possible to bait out responses', but he could have been thinking 'this is dead so even though there's nothing to work with i'll do what i can." | ||
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it's just not worth it. he's scum and even if he isn't, having him in the game is worse than a mislynch. i don't understand how people can tolerate his play, he intentionally doesn't try to win or be helpful when he's town | ||
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A few thoughts: 1. Because the vote was so close and there were so few ppl on iamperfection, it would not have looked bad for scum to be somewhere else and any scum on iamperfection could relatively easily have switched to avert his lynch. If there was scum on him it was sub-optimal play. Scum do stupid things; I got hammered by my teammates once while I was off playing dota. But in the balance I propose looking away from the iamperfection voters for now. 2. Drazerk's whole play is based around the premise "I refuse to try and look or be townie, so fuck you for trying to analyze me." We should kill him, it's the only sensible town response to that play. Also I think he's scum because he jumps around on votes without a care in the world, and because of that circular reasoning thing from before. Still, I'm not as sure about him as I have been in the past. 3. Getting medium bad vibes from jingle, but I can't put my finger on why. 4. Nisani looks pretty useless - his reasoning for voting Drazerk is pretty dumb IMO and it seems like he's doing some stupidly weak pressure. Like the best he came up with was "too many null reads". 5. I can't remember the last time Austin was scum, any help? Laters | ||
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also hey guys, i'm back in switzerland i just got mislynched in the other game i'm in and i'd like that not to happen again. i also haven't slept in something like 30 hours. im guessing the role list number swapping thing is probably also a bus driver or something. i read a bunch of filters. i'm not sure if i'm finding the right parts though. i think austin and gonzaw are maybe town, austin's attempts to explain things at length and reasonably feel well in line both with his town meta and with good townie behavior in general and gonzaw hasn't been tunnelling me even though he could and usually does. that gonzaw reason is a pretty bad reason though. i still want to kill drazerk. can someone please explain to me why it's okay for him to play like he is? that said, I think nisani is the best lynch at the moment. his filter just doesn't feel town to me, and i agree with whoever it was who said his little "i am null on iamperfection i want to hear more reads etc" thing sounds like how scum talk about each other when forced to. also i've thought about it and i think that saying this is a good idea right now: my night action was successful but i don't have complete control over who it targets. | ||
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i'm having an off week in mafia i guess. basically i get really mad that no one ever seems to care that drazerk doesn't try when he is town. | ||
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oo tired voting in case i dont wake up by deadline which i dont remember when it is ##vote: nisani | ||
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Sorry that I've been busy. I've been basically trying to avoid being modkilled. I was at home on vacation and spending time with my family and friends. Now I'm back at work and adjusting to jetlag, so still not the best playing conditions, but hopefully a little better. I really do think that nisani is scum though. I'll roleclaim. I am ATLAS. I breadcrumbed this earlier when I /shrugged. My role is "reverse hider" - basically it's a bodyguard, I have extra lives and if my target gets shot I take the hit instead. Last night I took a scum hit that was aimed at someone else. I can do the same thing tonight. My role says that since P-BODY and I are "so in sync", whoever P-BODY targets with their ability I also target with my ability. I don't know what P-BODY's ability is, however, and I don't know if their ability also targets the person I target my ability at. So I know that last night I took a hit that was aimed at someone else. However, I don't know if it was aimed at the person I targeted, beacuse it could have been aimed at the person P-BODY targeted. I don't even know if P-BODY is town. I am working on the assumption that they are, however, since having my power target a scum target doesn't make much sense to me. It's possible though. I also am assuming that P-BODY is town because of flavor - ATLAS and P-BODY are test takers, and GLaDOS's flavor as well as mine indicate that the town is the people taking the tests, and the scum are the people making the tests. I'm unsure whether P-BODY should claim at this point. On the one hand, it would mean outing themselves - although they don't necessarily have to claim what their power is, and since everyone in this game probably has a power of some sort it wouldn't necessarily mean they're making themselves a scum blue-snipe target. But since I don't know P-BODY is town, he doesn't know if I'm town either. All he could confirm is if he knows that the ATLAS role exists, and if the thing I'm saying about targets is true if he also has that. If he is also town then he could also confirm my flavor speculation, about the test-makers being scum and the test-takers being town. If you believe that line of reasoning, then ATLAS and P-BODY have to be town if those roles exist, and therefore confirming that the roles exist would help people not lynch me. So for the moment, I think P-BODY should wait to see how people react to the roleclaim and only claim themselves if it looks like I'm still the main lynch target and they think claiming would help keep me from getting lynched. | ||
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On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote: I never defend myself You should know this by now Drazerk wrote: Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game. Those are quotes from PTP3 where he was scum. On June 19 2012 05:08 Drazerk wrote: I don't want to be lynched I want to be shot there is a difference On June 19 2012 05:05 Drazerk wrote: You clearly have never seen me play town... I need to be killed before lylo if town want to win (unless I get mod confirmed or some shit like that) These are quotes from Bastard Mafia 2 where he was town. It infuriates me that he keeps playing like this and no one holds him accountable. He consciously sacrifices his town play to make his scum play better. In both of those games, he wasn't lynched because people just said "oh it's drazerk playing like drazerk." The thing is, this isn't like kenpachi or other bad players where that's just how they play - drazerk consciously does this as his "play style." He's not trying to help the town, and it just makes me really mad. Drazerk, being 100% honest here - you being in games makes them less fun for me. Seeing him say things here like "you can't apply logic to me" pisses me off. That's why I've been tunnelling him. I really, truly honestly want him to die. I also think he's scum because of the circular logic thing and because he's trying to kill me without actually explaining anything. But I recognize that that alone doesn't explain the extent to which my posts have been focused on him this game. | ||
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The target was HiroPro. I wanted to protect someone who voted for iamperfection. I had mementoss as my target originally, because I thought he was the best player out of those four, but someone made a case on him that was pretty good so I thought someone like hiro would be more likely to take a shot because they weren't under pressure. | ||
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Also I don't like this keirathi / jingle hell recent minishitfight. Something feels weird about it to me. The whole thing just feels so unnecessary. | ||
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I just want drazerk to die and I want everyone to tell him how shitty he is so maybe he changes a little. | ||
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On October 05 2012 04:22 Drazerk wrote: This is a themed game Hosts can lie then we should kill everyone because they might be scum and not know it. | ||
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On October 05 2012 04:25 Drazerk wrote: Theres not telling people information Then theres lying Your category falls into the former so lets not go down that road My role PM is pretty specific. It says my sturdy body structure allows me to take damage from others, and that I can target a player and absorb all damage that player would take. | ||
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On October 05 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote: Hey SNB, didn't you flip complete apeshit about me and VE wanting to lynch Grush for being useless in PTP3? Didn't you try to get VE lynched for it? Awkward... three differences: 1. I don't actively hate grush. I'm admitting that emotion is involved here. 2. I also think Drazerk is scum, because of the circular reasoning thing I've talked about before, and because of the way he was flipping his vote around day 1. 3. I'm not saying "we should be lynching drazerk right now instead of scumhunting other people," which was my problem with VE's policy lynch on grush. If you notice, my vote isn't even on drazerk right now. I just think we should be aware that he's not trying to help town and I think he should die for it. | ||
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On October 05 2012 04:35 JingleHell wrote: The fact is, you accused VE of being scummy for it on multiple occasions, and called it completely scummy to try and kill someone just for being bad or being someone you dislike playing with. Now you're pushing Draz for the same reason. By your own logic, it's scum behavior, so we should lynch you for it... Or, in your own words... + Show Spoiler [PTP3 Quote] + On August 21 2012 07:04 strongandbig wrote: ............................................... are you serious right now? you'd rather policy lynch grush? you know we do have actual discussion of scum candidates going on right now, even if the cases aren't great neither are the responses so there's plenty of ground for a real lynch and almost certainly like a million vigs in this game and you want to policy lynch grush?????? are you serious right now? scuuuuuum claaaaaaaaaim http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357¤tpage=23#452 Make sure you check the whole filter, maybe with "All, Ctrl+F, grush". Meta is a bitch. Are you completely ignoring what I just said about "not trying to get us to policy lynch drazerk" and "how I'm voting nisani instead of him right now"? Please explain to me how I'm pushing the scum agenda of "getting people complacent about a policy lynch" when I'm also re-bringing-up some evidence for why he's scum, as well as I'm voting for one of the other two lynch candidates and saying we should scumhunt at people other than drazerk as well as him? None of that are things that VE and you were doing with the grush thing. You were just saying "grush is bad let's kill him." That's different. | ||
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2. it's not trying to get people to stop scumhunting. 3. you're scum. | ||
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- obviously I'm going to try to get people not to vote me. I'm town and I want to avoid a mislynch. - I think nisani is more likely to be scum. I also think he's more likely to get lynched. I want to lynch scum. | ||
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Let me ask something else - drazerk I've tried to explain why I spent so much of the first few days focused on you. Why are you so focused on me? | ||
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On October 05 2012 05:28 Drazerk wrote: To keep myself alive longer which is pro town as you say so yourself. why would shooting me keep you alive longer | ||
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On October 05 2012 05:48 ghost_403 wrote: @S+B: Why did you decide to breadcrumb your role when you did? I hadn't really thought about the game enough yet at that point to do it. I wasn't putting in very much energy. Basically I had been putting it off because I wasn't sure how to breadcrumb the connection with pbody part - I wanted to but I couldn't think of a good way to do it, so eventually I decided to give up on that part and just breadcrumb the role name. I figured that I had to breadcrumb during night 1 at the very latest. | ||
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On October 05 2012 07:01 Nisani201 wrote: claim time I am the companion cube. I target someone and I heal them for 1 KP and watch them (I get all actions starting from the daypost). Last night I targeted mattchew and I got nothing from the host, so idk. this is waaaay more powerful than my power. Do people believe this claim? I don't. | ||
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So I want to kill one of the following people tomorrow: - Drazerk - Gonzaw - Jinglehell - Ghost based on process of elimination combining my townreads and hunches with the iamperfection voters. Out of the iamperfection voters mattchew is the only one I think would be likely to bus his godfather on day 1 when it's completely unnecessary, so we shouldn't give him tooooo much towncred for that. Some town cred is okay though. | ||
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On October 06 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote: Want the link to him starting it? It was in the case, but I kind of expected everyone to ignore it, since they want to sheep the scum.... what are you, seven? and am i your dad? idgaf who started it, you are being way more aggro than he is right now. | ||
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On October 06 2012 05:20 JingleHell wrote: Ah. Fair enough. Hard to keep their posts this game separate sometimes. T___T that's like the worst insult I've ever heard. What do people think about this recent post by ghost403? I think ghost403 is quite possibly scum. | ||
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On October 06 2012 05:30 austinmcc wrote: As Far as his Recent post, I get something else from it. However, what I get isn't alignment-indicative really. what about the rest of his filter though | ||
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In case I die here's what I'm thinking. Ghost is looking scummy. His filter is pretty noncommital, and I just don't get town vibes over it. He was very inactive during the day1 godfather lynch which fits an expected scum profile since there was not even an attempt to create an alternative bandwagon. Kill drazerk. kill it with fire. The more I think about it, the more I think I might be wrong to be giving Mattchew the benefit of the doubt for his vote on iamperfection. It's just kind of the thing he would do. However, I'm not getting a very strong read one way or the other out of his filter. Just a comment to be wary. I think keirathi is town - I actually had a town read on him in my spreadsheet before he claimed, because of the stuff he said about plurality lynch and splitting votes. I think austin is town. I can't really say why. His posts just feel townie. I think that everyone who voted for iamperfection is town except maybe mattchew (see above). That leaves gonzaw, jinglehell, drazerk and ghost. jinglehell and gonzaw are hard to make much out of. I think it's weird that jingle is being so fucking aggro towards gonzaw. OTOH I haven't been getting the same scummy vibes out of Gonzaw that I usually do; but he's a pretty good scum player capable of multiple styles. So be wary of those two. Still, I think town kills should be prioritized: - Drazerk - Ghost - Jingle - Gonzaw Lynch those dudes and I think we win. | ||
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On October 06 2012 07:38 Mattchew wrote: yeah I agree with whoever said they don't wanna play with you again after this I think this is everyone in the thread | ||
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On October 06 2012 07:49 Drazerk wrote: We are playing the exact same game as bastard here... "everyone hates drazerk?" that's a shitty game why do you want to keep playing it | ||
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if he was black scum he would either (a) already have pushed crossfire much harder, or (b) not said that thing about looking deeper into the iamperfection voters. | ||
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On October 06 2012 08:34 Mattchew wrote: BUT DUDE... you totally intentionally mess with your meta and gameplay broski so that means you could do anything as any alignment... SICK PLAN BRO yeah what about the part where you said logic doesn't apply to you now you're saying to use logic on you (and shitty logic, at that) - scummy contradiction bro | ||
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On October 07 2012 05:57 gonzaw wrote: If the factional KP is true, I'm all for killing the reds first. Specially if the remaining red has a similar ability to GlaDOS and can fuck things up. Xfire's role seemed way too underpowered. He had 5-maximum 1 KP to use, only if a night action was used on him, and could only be used on the guy above or below him on the list. Compared to GlaDOS who was a RBer/GF/other shit that seems very underwhelming. Again considering Gordon Freeman is the most "important" figure from Black Mesa one would assume he got the best powers (just like you would assume GlaDOS got the best powers from RS). If so, then the remaining BS dude has shitty powers right? Maybe some kind of Framer ability that could deal 1 KP in some way or something. It's also possible someone like G-Man is actually the "superior" to Freeman in Black Mesa and has better powers, and Freeman was just a normal goon (because seriously, Freeman's power is worse than a red goon's one). Everything seems to point to getting rid of RS first, unless I'm missing something. Why Hiro? Matt, again, don't go scummy lurker on me. You are not confirmed town by any means so start discussing. you forget, gordon freeman was a day vig. Given that there are at least two protective powers in a small game, that does make the role quite a bit more powerful. There's also the possibility that the black team has other powers which have synergy with the list changing. | ||
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The reveal of the black scum team actually doesn't change my read on Mattchew by much, since he was the one person out of the four who I thought might have killed off his godfather day 1 like that anyway. That makes it a bit more difficult to decide who to lynch after Drazerk. I still think Ghost looks the worst, but then we have Gonzaw, JingleHell, and Hiropro. | ||
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cave johnson role in aperture 1 had lemon grenades. | ||
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On October 07 2012 11:30 ghost_403 wrote: Oh, and there's that stuff with his new plan to tell scum who the medic is protecting right before the deadline. Yeah, that's a pro-town plan. If the medic targets town, scum can kill the confirmed town. If the medic targets the confirmed town, scum can have their way with whoever they think would look best dead. Great plan there, buddy. who is confirmed town? i don't think we have any | ||
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On October 08 2012 02:02 Drazerk wrote: Hiro vigilantes don't shoot scum lol Vigilantes shoot town I have never shot town except when I let town call my shot for me. You are just bad at playing a vig. | ||
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We need to lynch drazerk. I don't really care about what his night actions were or how they played out. His behavior has earned him his death. His claimed shot was for self-preservation on someone who he didn't think was scum. He's played purely for self-preservation and not to help the town. People, don't let him distract you with all this speculation about what happened with his shot. If he's telling the truth about his role (which I doubt), then we can figure it all out later. But the signs point strongly towards lynching him. | ||
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On October 08 2012 05:07 gonzaw wrote: S&B, before I listen to you on who to lynch, please post your thoughts on everything else that went on in this D3 thread. Like...stuff about me, stuff about Jingle, stuff about ghost and austin, etc. There's plenty of info lying around, why are you ignoring it just to get Draz lynched? One scum at a time. I've taken all that stuff into account and I still think drazerk is the best lynch. Regarding you and Jingle: I don't find myself persuaded by Jingle at all, mostly because of presentation and how ridiculously abrasive he is. I could see you being scum, but I could also see you being town. I think Ghost is more likely to flip scum than you are. Unless something changes I would like to lynch him next after Drazerk. I have a town read on Austin - his posts just feel townie to me and I like the way he's explaining things and promoting a good town atmosphere. | ||
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On October 08 2012 05:26 Drazerk wrote: You know I am though and you know that killing me is the best way for self preservation How would I know you are town? Did you change your mind and now you think I'm scum again? | ||
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On October 08 2012 05:51 Keirathi wrote: Call it "protecting S&B" if you want. If Draz does somehow flip town, and town decides that either me or S&B needs to be lynched tomorrow, then so be it. What? In what world would that make sense? | ||
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On October 06 2012 07:50 Drazerk wrote: Better to be hated and lived than loved and shot how about both hated and dead? | ||
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On October 08 2012 08:13 JingleHell wrote: I was trying most of the day. Don't try and turn this into ME somehow being scummy, when everybody has listened to my reasons and said they still prefer Draz, what was I supposed to do? This is true, even though your thread presence was terrible and disruptive, at least you kept trying to keep people talking about things instead of letting people go with just "we're killing drazerk today". | ||
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However, I don't want to make one huge post right at deadline, because those aren't usually super effective, they try peoples' patience, tldr, etc. Keirathi: - I have a hearty respect for Keirathi as a scum player. I haven't played with him yet but the one scum game of his I did read closely was simply masterful. He really looked town. The curse of this is that it makes it hard to trust a town read on him. - Everyone is treating it like he and I are confirmed to be the same alignment. It's important not to do this: there is no official confirmation of that in either of our role pm's, as far as I can tell. At least, there isn't in mine and while Keirathi says his hints that I'm town, I don't think he's said that it explicitly comes out and confirms it. - That said, I do have a strong town read on Keirathi. I'm just hesitant about it because he did a very good job of faking being town in that other game I read. But I think he's town for a few reasons. One is that from a mechanics and balance sense, it seems unreasonable for a scum faction to control a town faction's bodyguard power. Another is the things he posted. His filter feels townie to me. He's participating a lot (11 page filter), he's trying to move discussion along (his early game mattchew gambit was not well thought out imo but I can more easily attribute it to town motives than to scum motives), and he's put in at least some effort towards positively organizing town (specifically, I'm referring to the posts he made early on talking about how even though it's plurality lynch, having the votes completely spread out over a whole bunch of candidates is still anti town). - However, if he survives too long it will eventually be time to start being suspicious of him. [b]JingleHell[b]: Is retardedly abrasive for no reason, to such an extent that it makes it hard to give him credibility and makes him seem like he's doing emotional tunneling. However, he does this as town as well as as scum - it's not scummily being disruptive on purpose to derail the thread. Or at least, it's not necessarily that. However, it makes it hard to get a read on him. I have a weak town read on him, overall, but if it really came down to maybe lynching him it would take me quite a bit of effort to read through his whole filter. | ||
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On October 08 2012 07:56 gonzaw wrote: Oh fuck if you flip scum I'll feel so retarded this makes me think gonzaw is scum. | ||
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i believe your claim atm though. it sounds like the ikind fo role those hosts would put in this game. mattchew - did you claim role name? given that cave johnson flipped town i no longer trust flavor but w/e. actually we should probably just mass claim right now because so many people have claimed already. mass claim go go go | ||
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On October 11 2012 03:54 Keirathi wrote: Honestly, looking back through Jingle's filter, I'm having an extreme amount of trouble believing that he is town. I read your reasoning austin, but I just don't find it sufficient. He kept talking about gonzaw and Matt for hours and hours, then he made a case that I mostly agreed with (because I thought iamperfection was town), although I didn't think it was enough to vote Matt, just keep an eye on him. After iamp flipped scum, no one ever even really looked at jingle again. 1) Has absolutely no opinion on iamp day 1 2) Builds cases on gonzaw and Matt, while making excuses about not being "pushy super agressive" to explain away why is wasn't pushing them so hard. 3) Has literally done nothing substantial besides tunnel gonzaw all game 4) Really "safe" claim 5) Claims hider, while S&B's role is Reverse Hider. Roleblocker flips day1, and my role is Roleblocker Roleblocker. Too much coincidence. I can't really get behind any of those other cases. Its all based too much on things that we don't know who is lying about (and we know we have at *LEAST* 2 people who aren't being completely honest with their information). And I still trust S&B because I literally have no reason to distrust my Role PM. ##unvote ##Vote: JingleHell my role doesn't counteract hiders, so i don't really agree with your last point. that said i kind of agree with your point on just tunneling gonzaw all game | ||
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i have a question for you - under what conditions exactly do you win? As I understand it, you win either: (a) glados and chell die, and red scum wins (b) you survive until endgame and town wins So if red scum wins but chell is still alive do you lose? Or does the survivor condition overcome that? Basically how it seems to me is that as long as matt is alive you don't count as red scum, but once matt dies you count as scum for the "faction>other factions" and for the calculation of KP so we probably have to lynch you as soon as matt dies. For voting today we're between jingle, hiro, ghost and austin imo. I still kind of have a town read on austin, just because his play doesn't feel off to me and I think it would be off if this really was his first scum game. I've been thinking ghost is scum for a long time, so my lynch order probably is ghost>hiro=jingle. Waiting to vote until closer to deadline though. | ||
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Not sure about this ugh. IDK, fuck the claims I've been feeling ghost is scummy all game. ##vote: ghost although fuck I kind of want to vote Jinglehell also... not sure. | ||
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On October 11 2012 07:47 austinmcc wrote: Ninjaed AGAIN. I still don't see JH as scum. I don't see townghost with a green check on Drazerk doing next to nothing to stop his lynch. did he say he doesn't get the check until the next day? But that doesn't make sense, he has three checks (I think) | ||
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On October 11 2012 08:28 gonzaw wrote: Yeah it's the only thing that makes sense (specially since people may notice him changing positions and find it weird and put attention onto him). Maybe after Draz checked town he backed off, but if Draz had checked RS he would have gone against him... ...another thought is: Should we trust his other reports? Basically JH being town and Kei being town as well. Obvious answer is no....but if he was the last BS on the verge of losing he would have given correct information to town to gain more town cred perhaps? If he's not the last BS he could have fucked with us though, and maybe he checked other people instead of those 2 (maybe he didn't check Hiro last night at all and that's why he fumbled trying to explain his action last night considering Matt's bus....if this is the case then Matt isn't BS since if he was they would have planned it and not let ghost get caught in that lie). Okay ...Mattchew you are not confirmed town anymore sorry. I can already picture the flavour of it: + Show Spoiler [Matt's role PM] + Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition! You are Chell Gordon Freeman and Dr.Kleiner infiltrated the Aperture Science labs, and saw a beautiful lady lying in the floor of a test chamber. They took her to a secret den and healed her wounds (from lasers and shit). After she regained consciousness she saw Freeman into his eyes: it was love at first sight. After making passionate mute teleporting love inside a portal, Chell agreed to help Freeman and Kleiner to take down Aperture labs and everybody inside them. "Yo know, fuck Wheatly and that Rattman guy, and also Cave Johnson for making this place in the first place. Those 2 robot guys that are doing tests too, fuck them, let's fuck some shit up" were her words as they teamed up to fuck some shit up. You win when your Black Mesa team outnumbers all other players in the game Being serious though...if they were BS I think they would have thought about ghost's claim a little bit better and not have both of them contradict their own claims/fake-claims (as I remember ghost contradicted himself with the Hiro/Keirathi check from N3 right?) | ||
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Let me think for a minute | ||
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okay that was a lie, it wouldn't make me feel nearly as good as lynching drazerk. but it would make me feel pretty good. | ||
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Also on further thought, I find I really don't mind losing as long as I can lynch Drazerk. | ||
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That said I wish my role was a little better. It's not much of a protective role with only one extra life, covering like three people per night.  | ||
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I really wanted it to be like that but I couldn't manage to get a scum read on keirathi. | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:25 GreYMisT wrote: I basically make my role PM's like Legal documents. Unless it says "He is confirmed to be town". He is not. I included the chezinu thing because as a mason group you have to always specify they are different alignments. I put anti-break mechanics in all my games. Not sure if you guys noticed but 50% of your town PMs were in blue and 50% were in green. I noticed that  | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:21 GreYMisT wrote: Catastrophe Mafia is coming *sometime* in the next month. Me, GMarshal, and iGrok are hosting it. /in i will do my utmost to get drazerk killed unless i'm a vig in which case i will shoot scum | ||
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True story | ||
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