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I'm having trouble figuring out who the RS is if its not Jingle.
I know its not me or S&B. I don't believe gonzaw would be RS with a wincon that makes him want GlaDOS dead (and while I think he may have been lying about his wincon, I don't think the was making up the GlaDOS+Chell thing). I believe that Matt is Chell (unless he and gonzaw made up some elaborate plan and were given Chell and Wheatley as fakeclaims?). I don't think ghost is RS, because of iamperfection thing and I kind of believe that he's DT *AND* I don't think RS has a need to have a position swap mechanic.
Hiro *COULD* be red scum if he bussed day 1. That's a big if though, especially assuming a 2 person scum team.
So really, its down to austin or jingle. Both of which would make a ton of sense, but austin has been trying harder? And there are some extremely circumstantial things that make me lean towards Jingle.
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(1) seems more likely than (2). And ghost's incredible disinterest in the thread and in BEING A DT does not seem townie. I've only been a DT once, but I planned my entire GAME around how to get checks in.
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So ghost is lying then? I skimmed the thread but don't have time to think about what he claimed.
...what if he's BS? Again, I think we should lynch RS today
I am not that sure Jingle is the RS, and maybe austin is and he's fucking with us or something, but I think it's the best course of action since he didn't come back and never reacted to my claim and also that theory I made and other shit
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Well, austin or someone else you know what I mean (posted about it before)
fuck fuck 1 miniute
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Derp
I guess ghost is lynched then.
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Night 4![[image loading]](http://2half-life1freeman.webs.com/HalfLife2_IsaacKleiner.jpg)
Never fear, Gordon, she's de-beaked and completely harmless. The worst she might do is attempt to couple with your head. Fruitlessly!
Dr. Kleiner(ghost_403) was lynched
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +"Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition!
You are Dr. Kleiner, the ListDriver Veteran Detective!
No one knows how you even survived the incident with the resonance cascade with Eli Vance, considering you have no obvious survival instinct. However, whatever survival instinct you have seems to also be present in Aperture as well, giving you an extra life. What also transferred is your teleportation system, allowing you to swap people in the player list to your will (the cat incident already forgotten). Using your scientific analysis, you will then use this data to determine the alignment of the player directly below you in the player list.
Choose 2 players, reverse their positions in the player list. You then recieve the alignment of the player directly below you in the list. You also have 1 extra life
You win when your Black Mesa team outnumbers all other players in the game. "
Final Vote Count
gonzaw (2): JingleHell, ghost_403
austinmcc (0): Keirathi,
Mattchew(0): Keirathi
ghost_403(4): gonzaw, Mattchew, HiroPro, austinmcc, strongandbig
JingleHell(2): gonzaw, Keirathi
It is now Night 4, Please submit all actions to me and Greymist. The Night ends in 24 hours.
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Also I thought that would have been G-Man...but well
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still scum lol. still good.
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Okay, I'm tracking Jingle tonight. Worst case scenario he's that "self-framer" or another GF and he visits someone that's not the guy that receives a shot tonight.
Or the other "worst case scenario" is that nobody is shot (which is actually good)
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lol his role sucks (he didn't fake-claim though)
lololol BS suck so much I feel so bad for them (assuming they are all dead by now)
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Emphasis on the second parenthetical there.
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On October 10 2012 12:40 gonzaw wrote: One thing I failed to mention is that I think maybe the BS could have claimed his real role (if RS is a framer like I'm stupidly speculating).
Hiro could be BS and be a "re-director" (with more anti-town abilities I suppose as well). Mattchew could be BS and be a bus driver; Jingle could be BS and be that "super-hider" like some people argued about, and ghost could be BS and...whatever the hell he will claim (austin too. bla bla bla).
The thing is that I think the BS could have claimed his own abilities or part of them and just fake-claim his role name; while I think the RS may need to completely fake his claim (from abilities and all). Mostly because I don't see a RS with any of the abilities that were already claimed (maybe again except Matt's bus driver one).
This is why we don't really compare claims with people we think is BS, but with people we think is RS.
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On October 11 2012 08:04 austinmcc wrote: Emphasis on the second parenthetical there.
Yeah I forgot, Mattchew is still BS so kill him so I can win as traitor!
Anyways, good job Mattchew you are like 99% confirmed town now even though you did nothing to achieve that.. Don't know if you should bus JH with someone you think that might get shot because then I can't really track JH without knowing who you will shoot. Meh, it's possible though, just tell me beforehand if you are going to do that or not so I don't directly track Jingle.
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Actually....BS's roles suck so much that it does make me think it may be possible they have 3 players (so there's 1 player left). I mean, RS have factional KP, plus a super GF/JOAT plus a wannabe traitor that can count as one of them in end-game plus whatever super role the remaining RS has (I speculate Framer) Those 2 BS can't really be a whole scum team in contrast...can they?
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Yea I'm sort of leaning towards a third black scum.
But, kill RS first. If we kill RS and its not end-game, then we worry about it.
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Wait...did ghost think Drazerk was RS? What other possible reason would he have, as scum, to swap positions with Hiro? Did he want to DT check Draz and see if he was RS to push his lynch and gain town cred or something like that?
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On October 11 2012 08:13 gonzaw wrote: Actually....BS's roles suck so much that it does make me think it may be possible they have 3 players (so there's 1 player left). I mean, RS have factional KP, plus a super GF/JOAT plus a wannabe traitor that can count as one of them in end-game plus whatever super role the remaining RS has (I speculate Framer) Those 2 BS can't really be a whole scum team in contrast...can they? One reason I was thinking 2 red 3 black as a possibility, balance out the factional with an extra member.
At to ghost's motivations, that's all I can see. He wanted a check on Draz, I don't see why he'd want that unless he thought Draz was red scum.
I mean, it clearly wasn't to try and gain town cred by calling Draz scum, and it wasn't to protect townDrazerk. Which makes me think he was only interested in Drazerk as red scum.
Perhaps because Drazerk was most insistent on there being an extra faction or two? Check the guy who's thinking way outside the box to see if he's red and red knows about black?
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Possibly?
He didn't really mention Draz much though.
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