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ShiaoPi

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September 28 2012 16:22 GMT

#241

did thrawn just got hammered?

ShiaoPi

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September 28 2012 16:26 GMT

#244

On September 29 2012 01:24 Blazinghand wrote:

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Austin voted Thrawn just a minute before the votecount.
I think he is dead....

ShiaoPi

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September 28 2012 16:32 GMT

#247

lol my fail, sorry BH >_> I actually read SnB as austin....I am way too sleepy

ShiaoPi

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September 28 2012 16:52 GMT

#254

@phagga:

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On September 27 2012 04:45 phagga wrote:

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Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken.

Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself.

But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?

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On September 27 2012 00:16 phagga wrote:

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So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.

Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?

Looks like pounding on thrawn to me. Also regarding ottox, you mention him as bluelightz starts pressuring him.
Sleepy as fuck now, so I am off to bed. I would really like you guys to considerate a lynch on phagga, but if you do not like to do it, at least hammer someone, no lynch would be just awful.

night!

ShiaoPi

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September 29 2012 05:52 GMT

#320

hmm...I know I said hammer anyone but...why did it have to be this close on my preferred target
gg thrawn. Will be back later to give out some thoughts and read what I missed besides the flip

ShiaoPi

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September 29 2012 16:33 GMT

#329

okay I had less time than I thought I would...Just saying now before sleeping:

I gave SnB more or less a freeride for being in transit, would be interested to see more from him
phagga has kind of weakened my suspicions on him a bit, but I am still uncertain about him.
Sinensis and iamperfection are also on my watchlist. For different reasons though. Sinensis has some stuff that has been pointed out already and I am too tired right now to dig up the other things. Iamperfection deserves some closer inspection for being around quite often but not doing that much, also he started the thrawn mislynch with pretty weak reasoning.

sorry for the lack of fleshing stuff out but I am tired and heading to bed now. Hopefully I am still alive after the deadline to elaborate.

ShiaoPi

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September 29 2012 16:35 GMT

#330

ebwop: obviously I know that pointing out half of the remaining players as scummy is not really that useful but whatever.

ShiaoPi

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September 30 2012 03:26 GMT

#342

okay I am up again time to get things rolling.
GG austin

With austin's flip we have some more information regarding the setup.
If anyone has been roleblocked this night, claim please, like immediately.
The setups are already narrowed down to 2 of the possible ones, while it may be a bit futile to discuss too much setup, it helps to know the exact one. If there is no roleblock I think we can assume the boxer/doc setup.

Now towards the stuff I said just before.
Phagga has been looking better in my opinion because of his long explanatory posts. At first they looked incredibly out of character but as he seems to be consistent within them, I am kind of backing down a bit on him now.
Looking at the replacement thread it seems as if SnB is going to be replaced, as soon as the replacement is in game please give out reads and thoughts as soon as possible since SnB's lack of activity hurts the ability to read him.

@Sinensis:
You seriously would have attempted a lynch on austin today? Please give me some details in how you came to the read of a thrawn/austin-scumteam during day 1. What did you make of the fact that austin would have had to be bussing in order to make your read work.
I also want to get a damn good explanation how you go from this gem here: + Show Spoiler +

On September 28 2012 19:17 Sinensis wrote:
@ShiaoPi: My case against austinmcc was kind of weak, but there had only been 3 pages of discussion up till that point and I wanted to get my initial thoughts out into the open because I thought they would be relevant. I even said when I voted him that I was only voting him till he responded, and we had a whole dialog that you're welcome to go back and read. The thread was dead so I decided to pursue what initial reads I had.

I have since changed my focus to Thrawn2112. I believe his incessant nitpicking of everyone's posts has been an effort to deflect attention from himself. I am not implying it is scummy to defend one's self, I am implying it is scummy to deflect blame. I have serious issues with his play.

towards your scumread on austin you just spewed out...here for reference again: + Show Spoiler +

On September 30 2012 11:49 Sinensis wrote:
Okay I'm caught up. First thoughts: austinmcc would have been my lynch candidate today if scum hadn't whacked him last night. For one, I was convinced thrawn was scum and I was convinced austinmcc was his scum buddy and that's what this was about:

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Well none of that matters now so I'm back at square one as far as reads go. For everyone's notepads: based on what I have read, I would not have changed my vote from thrawn even if I had been in the thread. He did a bad job making himself look like town.

@iamperfection: You didn't even mention my name day 1, now I'm at the top of your reads day 2 just because I had to go to work? What made you change your mind about phagga? You never said?

Oh wait there is no explanation since you are scum, figures I guess. ##vote: Sinensis

@Iamperfection:
you say your best way to prove your innocence is to hunt scum. Then fucking do so instead of saying "wow those mia guys are bad --->scum".
I would be interested in why you think sinensis is scum, also flesh out your thoughts on SnB pleae instead of just saying he ain't around.

ShiaoPi

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September 30 2012 03:27 GMT

#343

ebwop:

This goes to everyone, get active and your thoughts/reads out!

ShiaoPi

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September 30 2012 04:50 GMT

#346

WHERE IS EVERYONE ELSE????

ugh...I hate my timezone for mafiagames.

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 08:14 GMT

#368

okay I was quite busy over the weekend, mid-autumn festival here. Let's get some stuff out:

@phagga:
for now I am inclined to believe his claim, if he does not end up dead next night I'll be seriously doubting him.
also in regards to sinensis and how his entire logic crumbled.

Austin would have had to be bussing for sinensis' read to work. Since he had a scumteam of austin/thrawn in mind. That obviously means that austin would have been bussing thrawn (even without a vote he was heavily inclined to lynch thrawn after I brought up phagga as target). Austin was not voting since he said he wanted as much discussion as possible, I also believe that it was quite obvious that he was town-aligned, played several games with austin already and that was like textbook town-austin. Therefore I am really having trouble to see him being read as scum by anybody. Onto the breakdown in logic.

The first quote quite clearly states that Sinensis never had austin as scumread, in the 2nd one he would have been top priority lynch suddenly. This simply does not add up.

@SnB:
Who would you want to lynch? I am having trouble establishing a read on you as well, because of lack of activity, you do remind me of LVIII though, where you flipped scum. Pleae start contributing more.

Also bluelightz, ottox and phagga:
Who do you want to lynch? Get active guys!

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 13:13 GMT

#372

@Sinensis:
I am making a huge deal out of the fact that what you posted day 1 and what you posted this day do not add up. It's clearly contradictory to say at first that the case on austin was only to get discussion and then to switch it around to have him as high scum read after he flips. It is a breakdown in logic. You have not left any hint of your suspicions on austin during day 1 and then he would have been a priority day 2?

Also in regards to austins switch. It was not having any effect in regards to the lynch. take a look at this votecount:

On September 29 2012 05:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count!

Thrawn2112 (4) - iamperfection, Ottoxlol, Sinesis, strongandbig
Phagga (4) - ShiaoPi, Bluelightz, austinmcc, Thrawn2112

Not Voting (1) -Phagga

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day ends in 34 minutes on Friday, Sep 28 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00)

It was obvious that phagga would not get lynched. There is no reason for a hypothetical scum-austin to switch onto phagga since the hammervote would still remain with phagga and he would obviously not lynch himself. I saw the switch much more as an means to get more discussion going. From the moment where only austin and phagga had not voted it was clear that phagga was not going to die this cycle. It would have been incredibly stupid as a scum-austin to bank on the possibility of someone else than phagga switching his vote and go all-in in order to save a hypothetical scum-thrawn. I know that it is WIFOMy but still the point remains that the chance of phagga getting lynched at the point of the switch were close to 0.

Seeing you now questioning my motives seems funny to me, since I know I am town (herpa derpa). So no, my vote will not move for now.

Where the fuck is everyone else btw?
Can anyone give some more reads/thoughts out?

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 13:23 GMT

#373

@bluelightz:

Anything you got from rereading?

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 13:32 GMT

#375

That's the point with those 3 they are basically all lurkers for the purposes of today. I already said that I think ottox looks townish to me (at least he did day 1) but his absence is annoying. bluelightz is more or less a null-read right now. There is not much to make off and I am trying to get some answers from him (see my last post) in order to get a read on him. I also already voiced some concern on SnB, but with the general inactivity-fest this has become he (sadly) does not stand out....

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 13:38 GMT

#377

So you would be willing to let Sinensis go off the hook now?

ShiaoPi

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October 01 2012 14:03 GMT

#379

haha, I am town :>
But I doubt we could get them active by voting them...we had a blue flip in the night and a blue claim by day but still nobody is here, kind of depressing...