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Right, I'm imagining things. You didn't just overreact to ShiaoPi. I have to make up my mind on you yet.
Allright, if we take all claims so far as true, VE's judgement of iamperfection as true, and my own reads (i.e not finding risk.nuke, Sloosh (changed my mind), and kreb), that just leaves:
ShiaoPi, DP, Keirathi and Mattchew.
Right now I'm leaning DP and ShiaoPi as my top reads. Keir I haven't read his filter carefully yet, and Mattchew I can't formulate a read on, he's too absent from this game.
I changed my mind on sloosh because I really don't think scum would be ballsy enough to openly try to push a lynch on a 3rd party BC. I could be entirely wrong here, but it's just want I think.
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Also, I'd like to hear some thoughts on DP, concerning my case on him. His play this game seems a bit off, compared to the one we just came off of.
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On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?
Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town.
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On October 10 2012 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 15:40 Z-BosoN wrote:On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1? Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town. Why did you "stupidly sheep" in the first place? If it's such an aberrant playstyle to you, why did you jump onboard in the first place?
tbh because I wasn't really giving this game any time at all, and automatically played passively. I was giving the other game much more attention. Now that game is over and I'm participating much more, see
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Yep. Node agreed with my analysis on shady sands despite all hammerings on me & shady. I joined his wagon because at first it seemed like a good alternative to SS. After I jumped I realized how badly I was playing and decided to change that. Read Node's filter, took him as town, and left his wagon.
Take the leap of faith that this is true :/
If I was scum it'd be stupid to join the wagon in the first place. Are you having issues with the time of when I left his wagon? I don't remember if it actually made a difference.
I've also been playing a lot differently since day1, especially now, where I've actually read the entire game.
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Also my town read of shady was based off of one post, which doesn't require much reading.
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It was, though. After playing a few games with shady, it's very clear when he's town. I basically gauge it by how much I want to punch him. His first "omg omg this was my plan all along" told me that he's just being retarded. His games as scum have him much more collected.
Also, I'm going to check this, because I remember some shenanigan from annul as well. It really has to be some shitty luck for me to end up being the main unvote to not lynch a confirmed scum.
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O come the fuck on. The vote was 12 shady 5 node at the end.
Just because I was the first to unvote Node doesn't mean shit. Why the hell would I do that 40-50 minutes before the actual lynch time if my true goal was to save Node?
If you wanna use that as an argument, include the other 5 (?) people who changed their vote.
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Ah, whatever. Hope someone who can actually think sees how ridiculous that would have been for me as scum.
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It was my true goal, as townie.
It wasn't my true goal, were I scum, as that would be stupid.
clear difference, no?
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Fuck man, it's 4 am here... I'm trying to dismiss you so I can sleep
Let me try harder, then, since it seems like you actually care about what I have to say
I did not want Node to die to this wagon. I thought it was unjustified. I decided this after I put my vote on Node and ever since I've been playing a lot differently. I also did not want to kill shady. Therefore, I changed to someone else.
What I said later was:
If I were scum (ok assume I'm scum) and I my unvoting was actually an attempt to save Node, why the HELL would I have done that 40-50 min prior to the lynch? I feel that this wouldn't accomplish shit, and would probably throw my ass on the line (as is what's happening). I'm arguing that it would be completely ridiculous for me, as scum, to want to save Node in such a manner. Why? Because I'd be sticking my neck out and for what? No guarantees?
I'd most likely wait until actual lynch time to see if my switching of votes would make a difference.
I'm add something new here.
YOU are probably thinking that I unvoted because I realized that Node was actually maybe gonna get lynched for real. My post in the thread came 9 minutes after the 7/7 post on the vote thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=29#573
So for this theory to be true, I've had to instantly refresh the voting thread, quickly as hell change my mind, write a post and 9 minutes later, BAM, post that I had changed my mind.
That supports the fact that I got unlucky right? Because 9 minutes to make the post I made and to make a decision of this caliber, AND assuming I read the vote tally right after it came off is a bit too much, no?
Hopefully that makes my claim more believable
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Say yes I believe you you are as townie as they come, so I can peacefully go to sleep.
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come on, VE, baby, you got this
I'm as townie as they come man
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I ensure it? Why the hell did I ensure it?
You are using the time stamp of the taly if you think I actually knew what the vote count was. My thinking was merely this:
I don't want either of these to die. Thus, I will not vote for either of these.
PERIOD.
I didn't have a clue what the vote count was, what my actions would result in. Frankly, with 50 min prior to the lynch, with 3 people left to vote, with ppl unvoting and voting left and right, I didn't even bother.
Is this so hard to grasp?
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BECAUSE I WANTED NEITHER TO DIE. NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO LYNCH SHADY. OMFG.
Fine, gnight man
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Someone tell me why I'm scum.
I feel like I did a decent job explaining myself.
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On October 11 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
im pretty sure kush is town now.. Yeah, He seems pretty townie in the face of death. Who would you rather lynch?
So now you are saying that huh?
Didn't that make me scummy?
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On October 11 2012 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 10:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On October 11 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On October 11 2012 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
im pretty sure kush is town now.. Yeah, He seems pretty townie in the face of death. Who would you rather lynch? So now you are saying that huh? Didn't that make me scummy? I am not using it to get a mislynch buddy. Like you did.
are you on drugs?
wtf are you talking about
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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING!!!
and you were using that to say I'm scum:
On October 10 2012 14:12 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 14:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, you are acting a lot more townie this game when confronted to a lynch.
I find it weird how DP is making no mention of this, since he's the "kush expert" here I have mentioned it. I have also mentioned how he is aware of his meta and has employed it in WIFOM bombing me. So he could easily have changed it. And lets be honest. Getting caught so fast last game would have been an obvious catalyst for working on an incredibly transparent meta. This is not the first time he has been confronted with pressure and I would have originally thought this was a town tell for kush. I even had a town read on him when I replaced in. But his WIFOM against me showed a willingness to both abuse and alter his meta. To the point where I don;t feel it is enough to clear him Especially with the multiple scummy things he has done. Also. If you feel that kush is town. Then you should unvote him. Voting for someone and then protesting that vote is scummy as fuck. In fact. The biggest thing that makes me wary of lynching Kush is that you seem to be trying to milk town cred if Kush flips green.
In fact. That is very very scummy.
This guy is hella scum. He said I was scummy because I had a suspicion kush was town, yet did not want to lynch him.
Moments later, he has a suspicion kush is town, but doesn't want to lynch him.
His scumhunting is not legit.
Does NO ONE find this ridiculous? ffs
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