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drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 19 2012 22:43 GMT
#441
Oh, for some reason I thought the day ended at 7pm my time. BST is GMT+2 right?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 22:43 GMT
#442
On September 20 2012 07:42 kushm4sta wrote:
there is 2 hours 15 minute left


nope, 1 hour 15 min. in the day post it says we have 47 hours, not 48. the game started late I think
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 22:46 GMT
#443
please please vote count lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#444
I think the votes stand as follows


Kush (1)
debears (1)
Sharrant (2)
Cubu (2)
Drazak (4)

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, and I would also appreciate it if the mods did a vote count for accuracy.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:57 GMT
#445
Stutters, are you still around?

I think Killing is at least as suspect as drazak. Those are the two alternatives imo. Killing's reaction to Sharrant's claim is weird. I can't believe that a townie wouldn't be excited trying to solve this or at very least be willing to chime in. This is a very pressured situation for scum. At least drazak is here and he showed up before his wagon started.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:58 GMT
#446
Drazak is acting really weird though. And his vote on Cubu is suspect.

Sorry for being all over the place with my posts.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#447
One thing that seems very very strange is how nobody has voted for killing this entire game, yet lots of people have said he's very scummy and he was even a proposed lynch candidate a few times. . There could possibly be some derailment going on everytime a killing lynch is mentioned.

If you've got insight into the drazak/killing/cubu/sharrant choice now is the time to speak up.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 19 2012 23:01 GMT
#448
Vote count!

kushm4sta (1) - Sharrant, RemedySC
debears (2) - KillingTime, Sharrant, kushm4sta, rethos, rethos, KillingTime
Sharrant (2) - Sonic Death Monkey, thrawn2112, debears, JacobStrangelove, JacobStrangelove, rethos, drazak, Stutters695
Stutters695 (0) - JacobStrangelove, Sharrant, Atreides
Cubu (2) - kushm4sta, Stutters695, KillingTime, Atreides, drazak
drazak (4) - Sharrant, Sonic Death Monkey, kushm4sta, thrawn2112

Currently drazak is set to be lynched with 4 votes! 1 hour until the deadline.
Cubu, and Stutters695 have yet to vote!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 19 2012 23:01 GMT
#449
##unvote
##Vote: KillingTime


@Sharrant
The mason claim makes sense with Cubu as your partner. In light of this, it wouldn't make sense as mafia for you to give up your partner openly. Thus, I will not vote for either of you.

@everyone else

I would like to be here for the last hour or two to contribute, but as a reminder I will be gone at practice.

Right now, based on drazak pulling a KillingTime and voted without putting reason, it is hard for me to decide between the two. Since drazak is here to defend himself currently and has the most votes if I count right, I will put my vote on KillingTime. I had specified in an earlier post to Sharrant kt's scummy, unhelpful posting. Although you can say the same for Drazak. I feel like KillingTime, although he said he would not be awake during the lynch, would have stayed awake to sort out the aftermath of the mason claim rather than voting and leaving.

On September 20 2012 07:19 KillingTime wrote:
I need to go to bed. I can't process this stuff properly right now. Back to basics = hunting scum - so I am going back to voting my strongest scumread before all this nonsense - which was debears. I think that puts him and cubu on 2 votes each. You guys who are awake get to decide who to lynch I guess.

##unvote
##vote debears



Even if you can't process it 100%, you could at least wake up after an hour nap and be there to help out.

Gotta go. See you all Late tonight

Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 23:04 GMT
#450
On September 20 2012 07:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
One thing that seems very very strange is how nobody has voted for killing this entire game, yet lots of people have said he's very scummy and he was even a proposed lynch candidate a few times. . There could possibly be some derailment going on everytime a killing lynch is mentioned.

If you've got insight into the drazak/killing/cubu/sharrant choice now is the time to speak up.



Fair point. From experience, creating such derailment is really hard though. What I think is possible however, is scum putting him as a lynch candidate without actually voting for him. I did this for the entire XXVI wrt Xatalos and imcasey/WeeTee. It's kind of a fake to create distance between yourself and your scum partner.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 23:09 GMT
#451
Some very good points were brought up about Killing, that's for sure.

KT is a good vote with him running away as things are getting interesting. Drazak still sticks out in my mind because of how immediately defensive he got and the whole "I'll have good reads tomorrow if I don't die tonight" seemed really scummy to me.

I'm willing to vote KT, but my preferred is Drazak.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 23:16 GMT
#452
btw sharrant I still distrust your mason claim but you've put us in a position where we can't confirm your claim without the possibility of getting 1 mason killed and putting another in a very bad spot. Since there's so much confusion about it I'm willing to lynch a lurker and figure you out later.

kush what are your thoughts on killing and drazak?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 23:17 GMT
#453
On September 20 2012 08:01 debears wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: KillingTime


@Sharrant
The mason claim makes sense with Cubu as your partner. In light of this, it wouldn't make sense as mafia for you to give up your partner openly. Thus, I will not vote for either of you.

@everyone else

I would like to be here for the last hour or two to contribute, but as a reminder I will be gone at practice.

Right now, based on drazak pulling a KillingTime and voted without putting reason, it is hard for me to decide between the two. Since drazak is here to defend himself currently and has the most votes if I count right, I will put my vote on KillingTime. I had specified in an earlier post to Sharrant kt's scummy, unhelpful posting. Although you can say the same for Drazak. I feel like KillingTime, although he said he would not be awake during the lynch, would have stayed awake to sort out the aftermath of the mason claim rather than voting and leaving.

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 07:19 KillingTime wrote:
I need to go to bed. I can't process this stuff properly right now. Back to basics = hunting scum - so I am going back to voting my strongest scumread before all this nonsense - which was debears. I think that puts him and cubu on 2 votes each. You guys who are awake get to decide who to lynch I guess.

##unvote
##vote debears



Even if you can't process it 100%, you could at least wake up after an hour nap and be there to help out.

Gotta go. See you all Late tonight



This comes off as scummy. It looks like he's been observing the thread in order to take his time to figure out how to handle a pressured situation (I've done this several times as scum when shit hit the fan). Then you just leave one post, trying to look active, while actually not wanting to engage in any discussion. None of his reasonings are original, it's all been brought up before. The only original part is voting for Killing instead of drazak. I'm not going to analyze this right now though.
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 19 2012 23:19 GMT
#454
Obviously, I have many many many hours to devote to things related to mafia, the posts say 1-2 hours a day, I give more like 3-4,and obviously if I had time to read through filters and be less circumspect I would. I have a family life and other things going on, so I can't before deadline. Therefore I'm left with one option which is to say I will post about it D2 morning. I'm willing to look at Killing if other people have stopped on the whole idea of killing a lurker to prove a town. TBH killing a lurker to prove a town is one of the best things that can happen D1, as we have a town to work with D2. That's just my thought on the matter, I haven't really looked at killingtime, and I don't know what his IRL situation is at the moment, so going to bed might be because he has to be up in 4 hours already, staying up another 2-3 would be crazy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 19 2012 23:28 GMT
#455
I'm still here. I just am at a bit flustered at the mason claim. Both my previous games had mason possibilities but no actual masons. For now I'm just going to ignore it because if he were mafia this would be a huge risk.

Drazak wanting to lynch Cubu given the claim really doesn't sit well with me. His only post of value is on the other scummy lurker KillingTime. An easy scapegoat which he didn't even really contribute other than saying FoS is useful.

KillingTime has avoided real contribution all game as well. The issue is now he won't be here to defend himself.

Drazak why do you think lynching Cubu is still a good idea? It confirms their story yes, but if Cubu flips green we're hoping there is a JK or mafia WIFOM themselves out of shooting Sharrant as confirmed town. If you couldn't lynch Cubu who would you focus on today?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 19 2012 23:34 GMT
#456
On September 20 2012 08:19 drazak wrote:
Obviously, I have many many many hours to devote to things related to mafia, the posts say 1-2 hours a day, I give more like 3-4,and obviously if I had time to read through filters and be less circumspect I would. I have a family life and other things going on, so I can't before deadline. Therefore I'm left with one option which is to say I will post about it D2 morning. I'm willing to look at Killing if other people have stopped on the whole idea of killing a lurker to prove a town. TBH killing a lurker to prove a town is one of the best things that can happen D1, as we have a town to work with D2. That's just my thought on the matter, I haven't really looked at killingtime, and I don't know what his IRL situation is at the moment, so going to bed might be because he has to be up in 4 hours already, staying up another 2-3 would be crazy.


Wait, what? The only person you've FoSd/voted on/anything really before saying you want to lynch Cubu post claim is KillingTime and you're saying you "haven't really looked at him." What have you been doing the past two days?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 19 2012 23:38 GMT
#457
Was trying to give you a chance to respond since you're actually here, but I guess not.

##Vote Drazak
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 23:38 GMT
#458
@Thrawn
I'm glad to know where we stand. I know it's a tricky situation. I could be mafia hiding with the lurkiest lurker to ever lurk, or I am a mason and you have to kill one of us to find out. It's not the prettiest situation in the world. This sitatuation has given me a much clearer read on some people though, but unless you believe my alignment you can't make the same reads.

I'm not sure what to say, Drazak. You've got me stuck here. Yeah, it sucks not having time for stuff. But I can't know that for sure. You admitted your vote was pure bandwagonning, no thought. You haven't really done anything during the day.

I'm still worried about Killing being mafia. There's no reason that Drazak and Killing couldn't be mafia together though, although they don't have any strong links. Thinking about who to vote for is really getting my head to spin.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 23:41 GMT
#459
On September 20 2012 08:19 drazak wrote:
Obviously, I have many many many hours to devote to things related to mafia, the posts say 1-2 hours a day, I give more like 3-4,and obviously if I had time to read through filters and be less circumspect I would. I have a family life and other things going on, so I can't before deadline. Therefore I'm left with one option which is to say I will post about it D2 morning. I'm willing to look at Killing if other people have stopped on the whole idea of killing a lurker to prove a town. TBH killing a lurker to prove a town is one of the best things that can happen D1, as we have a town to work with D2. That's just my thought on the matter, I haven't really looked at killingtime, and I don't know what his IRL situation is at the moment, so going to bed might be because he has to be up in 4 hours already, staying up another 2-3 would be crazy.


It's not "killing a lurker to prove a town", it's killing a town to prove a town. We would be at d3 without both masons and with either 1 or 2 extra townies dead (depending on how successful our d2 lynch is). Best case scenario is d3 with one scum lynched, 2 masons dead and 1 VT night killed. That's bad. The worst case scenario is fucking horrible.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 19 2012 23:50 GMT
#460
One last vote count

kushm4sta (1) - Sharrant, RemedySC
debears (2) - KillingTime, Sharrant, kushm4sta, rethos, rethos, KillingTime
Sharrant (1) - Sonic Death Monkey, thrawn2112, debears, JacobStrangelove, JacobStrangelove, rethos, drazak, Stutters695
Stutters695 (0) - JacobStrangelove, Sharrant, Atreides
Cubu (2) - kushm4sta, Stutters695, KillingTime, Atreides, drazak
drazak (5) - Sharrant, Sonic Death Monkey, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Stutters695
KillingTime (1) - debears

Currently drazak is set to be lynched with 5 votes! 10 minutes until the deadline.
Cubu has yet to vote!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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