Normal Mini Mafia III

On August 15 2012 07:55 Probulous wrote:


Hi there

I assume this is also your first game of mafia. Don't be intimidated, we won't bite much. As with DJ I would highly recommend you read the stickied threads and the guides. It is also a useful to skim through a few games just to get the feel of how things run.

Echoing marvel, if you are transparent and post frequently you'll do fine. Good luck!

On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Fairly happy with where my vote stands at the moment, given Kville's responses having come into the game (he decided to ignore my question, too).

Bluelightz, you can't come into this game all eager because of the playerlist and then go "he's suspicious, but now he's not" and disappear again. Step it up.

Shady I don't like because of how he twisted Obvious' post. But he's active and I'm wary of mislynching him because he has a tendency for some foot-in-mouth action.

I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and

On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis?

On August 23 2012 01:30 Shady Sands wrote:


So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv.

On August 23 2012 01:32 Shady Sands wrote:


This makes no sense. How does "leader lemming" = scum?

Also, you're twisting Marv's efforts to spark discussion here--a perfectly townish action--into scummy play. Why?

So you're basically saying everyone who is against random lynch gets to randomly vote for one person from people who are for random lynch?

While we're at it, how about a clear statement from you on lynching lurkers vs rando-voting vs whatever other idea you have... instead of fingering people for yoda-speak and rando-voting

On August 22 2012 07:33 Lvdr wrote:
I support lynching lurkers.

Just as a tidbit, I've never been mafia on here, but I decided that if I was: I would accuse a random player in the manner of Shady D1.

This post doesn't smell right.

This doesn't smell right either.


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## Vote: Kville

All aboard the midnight express... to hell.

On August 23 2012 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:


What situation?

On August 23 2012 21:27 Shady Sands wrote:
ebwop: the first vote on KV was a rando vote. but i'm still sticking with it because of how much better the case on him has gotten.

So KV constantly arguing he's a bad townie is a null tell in my opinion,

On the other hand, if he built a case on something other than OMGUS, he might be able to persuade me.

On August 24 2012 22:09 marvellosity wrote:
I want to know where Kville was for the 2nd half of yesterday and why his vote was parked uselessly on Shady.

On August 25 2012 13:03 Shady Sands wrote:
And where is KVille?

##Unvote
##Vote Obvious

I'm trying to get ONE OF my scumreads lynched and not a townie.

I'm trying to get one of my scumreads lynched. You telling me I'm not doesn't change that.

On August 24 2012 06:59 Shady Sands wrote:
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VE you still haven't answered my fucking question. Why is BL innocent.


Because he hasn't been proven guilty to me Shady now shut the hell up. I'm not going over it again. He reads as town to me.

He can't be bothered to defend himself, I'm not going to do it for him. I don't understand why you think this is some big thing. It's really not. You haven't offered any explanation as to why Obvious is town, yet you accuse me of not trying to defend MY townread? Get outta here sir.

On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

On August 27 2012 07:07 Shady Sands wrote:


Please explain.

The lynch is between lvdr and talis, no-one else is going to get the votes.so whoever is on other wagons should reconsider asap. Or if they think both are town, say so now

On August 28 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:


hey BL, why Chez, who always trolls with useless posts, and not talis, who is usually an active townie?

On August 28 2012 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
How could DJ make a mislynch happen on himself?

What's wrong with you??

On August 28 2012 21:43 Djagulingu wrote:
EBWOP: Why not stop with the OMGUS you started on Day 1 against me, marv and shady (or just me and marv)?

On August 28 2012 21:58 marvellosity wrote:
Kville, this is just for you, as for some reason you decided not to play newbie games:

On August 28 2012 22:07 Djagulingu wrote:

Do I look like a coin to you?

On August 28 2012 23:29 marvellosity wrote:


His point was that is Lvdr was town, Chez has simply been wagoning from townie to townie with little explanation. What is there to dispute here?

##Vote: Lvdr

Nothing about him makes me think that he's a townie.

On August 28 2012 23:46 marvellosity wrote:


"is" was clearly a syntax typo for "if", otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense. Get rid of your confirmation bias please.

After posting my actual plan and my prime suspect, resulting to shit and shit, I now had 1.5x more evidence than I actually intended for, against Chezinu.

The only reason I chose Lvdr to be the "bait" was because he was my top scum read at the end of day 1, but he was still 60-40 tops. I needed to have anything for both of that 60 AND the 40, 40% is too high to be neglected.

I don't know if there is a better target than Lvdr tbh, he's my one of my top scumreads

##Vote: Lvdr

Nothing about him makes me think that he's a townie.

Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

my strat was rather simple and you may consider it bad too: Push a target into lynch

He joins obvious bandwagon

see how some tried to bandwagon into Lvdr, see how they tried to bandwagon into me.

I saw Chezinu bandwagoning

Lvdr tbh, he's my one of my top scumreads and the fact that he very openly bandwagoned down Obvious

On August 30 2012 05:28 Lvdr wrote:
May be slightly premature, but if I get lynched consider djs vote a scumslip. Bandwagon-tipping\checkout vote; esp with an association theory on talis.

Honestly. im falling towards lvdr side. either you guys are reading to hard on this or some of you are just trying to get rid of town (scum).

Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

The only reason I chose Lvdr to be the "bait"

##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr

On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4.

what would happen if chezinu were to flip town as well? Your just making us vote town for scum. This is a pure scum play. Eliminating town after town.

if they were both to flip town(lvdr and chez)?
Well by then mafia would have taken a huge win so, I guess that was your strategy.

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On August 30 2012 12:52 Kville wrote:
I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town.
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I'm sorry, what? Day 3 and you're voting for someone who know is town? What the fuck is this??

you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.

although good lord DJ's voteswitch looks bad.

literally don't understand why Dingaling just hopped wagons like that. This game makes no sense

What the fuck is this??

you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.

On August 30 2012 21:24 marvellosity wrote:


oops. requoted, it was me.

On August 30 2012 22:45 Djagulingu wrote:

No. Don't kill Djangalang. Instead let him do the "DJANGNAM STYLE" dance instead while we're killing Chezinu or Talis.

On August 31 2012 00:43 Djagulingu wrote:

After lynching me, all you see will be Chezinu, Talis and most prob. iamperfection laughing their asses off while we're making one mislynch after another. Me? I'll be watching you from above after you're done with me. Pitying and laughing to your bad plays. Truth is so obvious, you should just lynch the troll.

On August 31 2012 00:43 Djagulingu wrote:

After lynching me, all you see will be Chezinu, Talis and most prob. iamperfection laughing their asses off while we're making one mislynch after another. Me? I'll be watching you from above after you're done with me. Pitying and laughing to your bad plays. Truth is so obvious, you should just lynch the troll.

On August 31 2012 01:10 Shady Sands wrote:
KVille, calm down and breathe a bit. So right now, your top suspects are Marv and DJ?

On August 31 2012 11:17 Shady Sands wrote:
Okay, that IamP/Marv/BL scumteam theory just got tossed out the window.

First off, town, we are at 4-3 LYLO. We have to get 3 straight lynches right. Monumental, but it's been done before. On other forums, that is. Let's be the first TL Mafia squad that pulls this off.

So basically IamP and Marv have been sheeping and supporting each other the entire game. They've been careful not to do it too aggressively, but they've been quietly doing it. There is an assumption of trust that underlies all their posting between each other.

When Marv saved BL I thought it was a risky bus move to avoid a D1 lynch. The ease by which town sheeped him and the fact that Marv didn't bring BL up again anymore made me doubly suspicious of him.

But with BL gone, the third leg of their little support group is gone, as is the third leg to my theory. At this point I am forced to subscribe to Marv's read on lurkers/bad play being dominant scumtells. In this case my scumteam shifts to Talis/DJ/Chez.

I'm going to go with Marv on voting Talis. We'll see how the rest of today plays out.

On August 31 2012 11:36 Shady Sands wrote:


Why not Talis?

On September 02 2012 05:47 Shady Sands wrote:
so kville/talis/chez scumteam?

On September 02 2012 11:34 Shady Sands wrote:

I don't give a fuck, scum can whack me for voting KVille. I dare them to go. Go ahead, make my day.

On September 02 2012 12:03 Shady Sands wrote:

Awwwwwww I think we have our godfather!

On September 02 2012 21:12 marvellosity wrote:
ok. I'm going to think this one through before the night's over. You're probably right.

Also, now that talis HAS flipped, we can look at his filter to see if there's connections.

On September 03 2012 08:28 Shady Sands wrote:
If I die tonight:

• Please lynch KVille. See above
  
• Please pressure IamP/Chez.

On September 04 2012 01:51 iamperfection wrote:

why did you say this?

If you thought lvdr was town why not change your vote to tails? We had time to reach consensus you could have always switched back. Since you wernt willing to follow your own reads it seems like to me you were trying to just blend in with the other while sofetning the blow when lvdr flipped town.

Why did you think tails wasent scum?

On September 04 2012 03:10 iamperfection wrote:

i was asking in general.

maybe instead of calling us all stupid you could try answering the questions.

On September 04 2012 04:47 Shady Sands wrote:

KVille, who is your scumread then? If you're so hell-bent on getting out of the lynch, who is the alternative?

On September 04 2012 06:34 Shady Sands wrote:

So can you look into it?

On September 04 2012 07:09 Shady Sands wrote:
FYI, here's why it doesn't make sense that DJ is scum

You say that DJ switched to Lvdr, and that makes him scum since he switched to a townie
But before that he was piled on Talis wagon for the better part of a day, and repeatedly said he would vote him in a race between the two bandwagons
It took a lot of heavy pressure to change his mind from Talis to Lvdr

Once Lvdr flipped town, he went back to voting Talis. Why would a scum DJ not start by voting Lvdr in the first place? Lvdr was an easy mislynch for scum, especially given how badly he was reacting to my pressure.

On September 04 2012 07:49 Chezinu wrote:

Shady innocent
Iamperfection innocent

Leaves DJ marv and kville

Of those kville and DJ would make a good team cause they are going against each other. Plus marv was pushing tali before anyone cosidered him.

On September 04 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
There are things besides the blindingly obvious in Kville's filter which show he's scum. The obvious being the voting to kill townies and refusing to vote for scum.

There are smaller things to do with this that tie it together, though. He's been trying to discredit me for quite a lage part of the game. Never with evidence, just pokes and aggression. Insidious play.

He basically barely mentions talis at any point. His filter is mostly devoid of an opinion on talis even though he was a very serious lynch candidate day 3 and got lynched day 4. His tunnelling of lingu seems to be a way of avoiding having to deal with the talis situation. Blind tunnelling is a favourite scum tactic to make it look like they're contributing.

Notice how he's backed off me in the last 48 hours or so. Up to now I've avoided being overly committal on Kville. Suddenly his read on me has softened markedly as he thinks I might take his side, so he stops antagonising me.

##Vote: Kville

the kicker is which of chez and lingu :/

On September 04 2012 09:36 Shady Sands wrote:

Why should I release that info that won't help town win? If you flip town, the game is over. Hence any reads I make predicated on you flipping town are useless from a town perspective, and only help scum decide who to target for their nightkill.

On September 04 2012 10:33 iamperfection wrote:

kind of just confirmed it in my mind if you were town you would vote for who you thought was scum so that way you could gloat at the end.

On September 04 2012 21:10 marvellosity wrote:


It's just the way a game can go at lylo. Kville effectively not bothering to defend himself, while splurging suspicion at everybody, is pretty convincing at this point.

On September 04 2012 22:45 Djagulingu wrote:

Let's make a bet ok Kville?

If you flip scum and I flip town, you make a 500 word blog explaining how hard you suck at mafia
If I flip scum and you flip town, I make a 500 word blog explaining how hard I suck at mafia

Take it?