Newbie Mini Mafia XXI - Page 4

On July 18 2012 03:42 YourHarry wrote:


Of course agreeing with something that is agreeable is not scummy. It is possible that towns can agree on something.

Agreeing with something that I do not find agreeable - that Obvious.660's post is a "meanginless" scummy post - in a very short period of time, with the common motivation to lynch the same person, is scummy.

On July 18 2012 03:48 YourHarry wrote:


Your reasoning that I may not be the person to be blamed if Obvious.660 lead to mislynch is logical. I agree that if I was away, and Obvious flipped town, I should not be the one to seem most scummy.. But even despite not providing any reason to vote Obvious.660, I did strongly push his bandwagon - mostly to see his reactions - which could seem scummy in many people's eyes. As you recently read, Hapha's accusation against me included this as my scuminess.

Also, I still fail to see how Obvious.660 personal reads of everyone in the game is scummy. At least when I play mafia, we frequently take turns to reveal reads on every player in the game.

On July 18 2012 03:48 Hapahauli wrote:
But Tube didn't make a scumslip! He was asked to change his tone for the town and did so!

On July 18 2012 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:


I'm shocked we're on the same side of this issue tbh o_O

On July 18 2012 04:00 YourHarry wrote:
An argument that tube's change of writing style is a scumslip could not have come from a person who actually read this thread. It is just ridiculous. Unless I missed something.

On July 17 2012 07:32 Obvious.660 wrote:

Woah! It's like a completely different person sat down at your computer and started typing. WELCOME TO THE GAME, TUBE!

On July 17 2012 07:39 Obvious.660 wrote:
##Vote tube
Reason: out of character posting. Coached response.

On July 17 2012 02:21 Obvious.660 wrote:
Greetings. Had a good sleep and I feel a bit refreshed and quite a bit like swimming in coffee. Breakfast-type things are happening but the hunt must continue.

FOS YourHarry

I guess it was an easy way to make myself a convenient target by posting something low content early in the first day before I would be able to contribute anything for another 12 hours or so. Regardless, choosing the last name you see for your vote when others have already provided much more to go on seems scummy to me when I wouldn't even be around to defend myself.

YourHarry's self analysis might be indicative that mafia is going with some kind of sacrificial lamb ploy to get our trust. If that's the case, I'll have to follow it up with

smaller, more wrinkly and arthritic FOS on iamperfection

as their entire strategy may have been hinted right in front of us. YourHarry gets to be the sacrificial lamb and anyone on his case early is riding the gravy train for day 1 as they will be safe from lynch tonight.



Of course there's a third scumbucket somewhere around here that hasn't been factored in my theory, for which I will be searching on top of building my current case against these two.

On July 17 2012 10:13 Obvious.660 wrote:
@JingleHell I would rather have a strategy and have a discussion than lurk, make no claims, or hold no convictions. We have agreed that non-participation is bad. If you want me to adjust my strategy then propose another that holds more merit. Sitting around waiting for something to happen is boring. Again, I was tunneling tube, I got somewhat over-impassioned about maybe finding a scum and I let myself be taken over by it. Lesson learned.

I already conceded the I was wrong about the tell. That doesn't excuse everything else that has been discussed.

On July 17 2012 20:06 Obvious.660 wrote:
There aren't enough fingers to go around at this point. I will share a few thoughts before I sleep, as I may not make it back in time for any further analysis. Seriously, the town play needs to improve overall or we're going to mislynch tonight. It's awful that I am reading more scum than town.

> tube still has my vote. Don't just look at the filter, it's better to read the actual thread when looking at him. Very few quotes to address the accusations against him in his responses will make analysis of tube troublesome without going through unfiltered.

> YourHarry: Highly, highly suspicious of this one. Not because he voted for me, but because of HOW IT WAS DONE.

> JingleHell is suspicious to me for his constant attacks on what words are chosen: "Wait and see" -- "Under the bus" conversations, where intent was pretty clear and he chose to always take it in the most negative context possible. He's railed on Calgar and me fairly hard.

> Hopeless1der makes a safe vote against the lurking Fulla. Wanted to know about no-lynch for whatever reason. Leaning scum here.

> Fulla seems to be lurking hard. Brings up a point of inquiry for some irrelevant statistic and probably goes to sleep.

> iamperfection read my post but clearly didn't follow the conversation in entirety. Points a few fingers, nothing overly suspicious. I would call the posting history semi-engaging but barely active. Leaning scum here.

> Calgar: My gut tells me town.

> Mufaa: Two posts. One starts analysis with the promise of more. The extra analysis is nowhere to be found. However, his line of reasoning regarding JingleHell seems to be spot on so far today.

> drwiggl3s: No scummy feelings here, yet.

> Evulrabbitz: Lurky, but lives in Sweden. 7 hours ahead of EST, if my just-before-sleep math is any good. I'm probably off by an hour. Look for something from Evul in the very near future, well before vote time.

> Hapahauli: Should be weighing in today. I have no strong feelings either way about his contributed play.

If you get nothing else out of this, town members need to take a good look at their individual contributions and ask themselves if they've done everything they can today to work towards a good day one lynch.

On July 17 2012 10:29 Obvious.660 wrote:
@JingleHell hi. I'm the guy who noted you used a colloquialism and defended you for it earlier. Anyone can throw anyone to the wolves. Take them out in back of the barn and shoot them. Leave them for dead. Thanks for letting me know my figures of speech are tells when they match anything ever said or used in a mafia game. I'll try to avoid them if it makes you feel better.

Please, take everything I say and compare it to everything ever written about scum. When you're done, you can lynch me and watch me flip town.

Such nonsense.

On July 17 2012 08:40 Obvious.660 wrote:
certainly give you the chance to participate before I throw you under the bus. .

On July 18 2012 05:32 Hapahauli wrote:


I haven't gone through iamperfection's filter all too thorougly yet. Let me take a look, and I'll get back to you in a few minutes.

On July 18 2012 05:51 drwiggl3s wrote:


Don't you think if he was really mafia.. He'd be here defending himself? is the case against him SO STRONG that he sees it as an imovable mountain that can never be overcome?

If obvious was really mafia his scum buddies would be pressuring him to post. They would be defending him, or trying to push lynches even harder onto other players. The fact that he hasn't posted to defend himself, the fact that no one is strongly defending him, tells me that he's probably not mafia.

Also you saying I posted a bunch of one liners is halarious coming from you. Anyone with half a second can check out my filter and see that's simply not true.

On July 18 2012 05:57 calgar wrote:

I'm defending him, have you read my posts?! I would be trying harder if it didn't seem it was already a foregone conclusion.

Let's see who's voting him? iamperfection - I think he's mafia. evul - won't post content; ignored my request to do so. tube, yourharry - people who have come under fire for post quality. jingle. Overall, I don't think it's the most reliable group that's casting the vote here. It seems like an easy vote to make with no risk.

On July 18 2012 07:10 Fulla wrote:
Where the hell is obvious? Sigh.. It seems it's all down to me, I hate it when this happens.

Let obvious be lynched or vote tube and force a no lynch.



Good point, I overlooked that.

Let's see what he flips then.

## Vote Obvious.660

On July 18 2012 07:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
So, am I going to get chewed out for not changing my vote? If I do, its a last minute bandwagon, and if I don't its because I Obviously (teehee) "knew" he was town.
Unless someone unvotes Obvious.660, there is no way to alter the vote at this point because he got to 6 votes first.