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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 22:42 GMT
#1011
Double EBWOP: Or Gonzaw could claim too I guess meaning it's 5 to 2. Any mason claim at this point is confirmed town in my eyes.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 22:42 GMT
#1012
On July 18 2012 07:42 Keirathi wrote:
Since its not LYLO or MYLO, I'm inclined to believe your claim. And I'm pretty sure the other mason isn't Mattchew (like 95% sure).


What claim :O

lol
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#1019
On July 18 2012 07:58 gonzaw wrote:
I knew I wouldn't die tonight, that doesn't make me "confirmed scum"
Hmm, I don't know if I'll have the time before going to the gym of doing shit, since I'm working a little bit more on Bureaucracy mafia.

However, there is one thing you guys can do:

Read Mattchew's case, read my filter, and post if you agree that I'm scum or not (if you agree I guess you could vote me maybe)



Wait...



Was austin masoned with someone?
If so...why didn't both CLAIM ON D1?????


I'm inclined to think there are either 3 or 1 masons and austin was on his own rather than they didn't choose to get 2 confirmed townies by D1 (I'd like to think of austin not as dumb as that >_> )
Hmm, still doesn't matter right now since they weren't misslynched or killed on N1.


Why would mason claim day 1? Millers sure, b/c that would mess with our cops, whoever they are.......... >.> <.<

Also, how could you KNOW you weren't going to die? Makes no sense. Unless you got jailed, in which case you should say that and our JK should claim. Just lets us fact check people more easily.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 23:10 GMT
#1023
On July 18 2012 08:08 gonzaw wrote:
Mattchew made that "case" against me and some people were starting to tingle with the idea of me being scum

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:05 s0Lstice wrote:
austin said early in his filter that he didn't think roles other than miller should claim.

for the record, i think you're scum

##vote: gonzaw



Holy crap this bandwagon is worst than I thought.
This post right here is so bad


Why should we not lynch you? Your flip gives us so much information. If you're scum Mattchew is in a rough spot, if you're town scib/Keir are pretty much dead men (unless mason claim)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 23:10 GMT
#1024
On July 18 2012 08:10 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:08 gonzaw wrote:
Mattchew made that "case" against me and some people were starting to tingle with the idea of me being scum

On July 18 2012 08:05 s0Lstice wrote:
austin said early in his filter that he didn't think roles other than miller should claim.

for the record, i think you're scum

##vote: gonzaw



Holy crap this bandwagon is worst than I thought.
This post right here is so bad


Are you just not reading the thread or just trying really really hard to make it seem like you aren't?


Exactly.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 17 2012 23:20 GMT
#1028
On July 18 2012 08:18 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:10 Keirathi wrote:
On July 18 2012 08:08 gonzaw wrote:
Mattchew made that "case" against me and some people were starting to tingle with the idea of me being scum

On July 18 2012 08:05 s0Lstice wrote:
austin said early in his filter that he didn't think roles other than miller should claim.

for the record, i think you're scum

##vote: gonzaw



Holy crap this bandwagon is worst than I thought.
This post right here is so bad


Are you just not reading the thread or just trying really really hard to make it seem like you aren't?


Yes I did, and I didn't understand shit of what happened


Okay, I'm not understanding anything here. Can someone please explain to me wtf happened right now?
Risen said the mason should claim, then said that he wanted to claim but he didn't, then people took it like he already claimed (making me think he claimed mason) but that doesn't make sense with what he said earlier.
Now I'm "confirmed scum" and if I'm scum Mattchew is scum as well (wtf?), and me not dying means solstice is confirmed town somehow.

You can see why I am confused as fuck over here. I'd like some explanation.


I'm laughing so hard right now rofl
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 00:20 GMT
#1033
On July 18 2012 08:55 s0Lstice wrote:
Risen, you checked s&b night 1, yes?


Yuppers
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 00:44 GMT
#1037
Yup I've been focusing on not being shot, but with mason claim (provided it isn't you or s&b) we pretty much have this game in the bag. Not sure how that makes you unvote gonzaw, though, unless you think the scum team is s&b and I, in which case that's quite the about face. Regardless, I think you have to lynch gonzaw or me today. I'll flip cop and then you lynch gonzaw or you lynch gonzaw and he flips either town or scum, if scum I die at night b/c scum can't afford me checking around and if town it's pretty WIFOM on whether scum lets me live another night so I get lynched the next night.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 00:45 GMT
#1038
Who could you possibly be considering lynching if not gonzaw/me? Mattchew?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:27 GMT
#1049
On July 18 2012 11:06 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 11:04 gonzaw wrote:
Risen stop fooling around.

Did you check me or not? You claimed cop with check on S&B on N1, and what check on N2?


s0lstice was what was implied.


s0Lstice was my n2 check, was pretty sure he was scum. I played like I thought he was town so I wouldn't get shot by a scum s0Lstice's team and then right before deadline since I felt my #whatacopout was too blatant for scum to ignore decided to leave my strongest scum read for town to go off of since I figured people would know my n1 check was strongandbig.


On July 18 2012 09:52 s0Lstice wrote:
Show me what made you check s&b please Risen.

I'm not closing my mind to any possibility.


I chose him b/c he hadn't posted enough for me to get a strong read and I didn't think anyone would be likely to jail him and if he was town I didn't think he'd be a likely target for scum to shoot. Having a confirmed townie is almost as good as having a scum check returned (would be less but this game could have a framer)


On July 18 2012 11:45 Mattchew wrote:
I wont lynch Risen, cause A. I have a town read and B. He claimed cop

Please dont make me fill in the blanks here


Yeah I'm not sure a lynch on me is in the best interests of town but I've become accustomed to this kind of thing.

On July 18 2012 11:37 Keirathi wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a Risen lynch today.

With Risen alive, none of his information amounts to a hill of beans, because we can't trust it. The timing is odd. the investigations were odd, and there's no scum result to test with. Plus, since Milton claimed he was RB'd, then I feel like Risen would be RB'd every night and never killed even if he is cop, because the longer he lives, the most suspicious he seems.

However, if we lynch him and confirm cop, then s0lstice and s&b are 100% clear for the rest of the game, along with the Mason, and we're at 6v2 with 3 confirmed going into the night. If he fake claimed, then we're down to 7v1 with 1 confirmed.

Therefore, I think the best thing we can do today to get a town win is probably a Risen lynch.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


Why are you neglecting the possibility of strongandbig/s0Lstice being the mason. I'd like to think that the mason isn't one of those two so we have 4 confirmed townies but I now believe one of those two is the mason b/c I haven't seen a mason claim yet. This means only 3 confirmed townies which is still good, but I can wish it was 4.

What this post says to me: Hi, I'm Keirathi and I'm scum.

This also means that gonzaw is looking a lot better in my eyes, because I can't see Keirathi leading a lynch on me today knowing gonzaw would be the next lynch. Therefor, I will...

##unvote
## vote: Keirathi


Sorry for that gonzaw, but I really wanted to see people's reactions to me pushing you hard. #2 on my list of people I'm wary of atm...

On July 18 2012 10:28 Miltonkram wrote:
Once again I'd like to apologize for not being in the thread for the D2 lynch. I was busy helping my father move and I lost track of time. I'm back now and I'll start a mafia "binge" in a few hours.

I was roleblocked last night. I doubt I was blocked by a jailkeeper since I haven't been a huge contribution to the town and I don't see a reason to protect me. If a town-aligned player roleblocked me do we want them to claim?


Why did this "roleblocker" not roleblock anyone night one? This looks to me like a fake claim of being roleblocked. (Am I missing something? Did anyone claim being roleblocked from night 1? Why wouldn't they claim that?)

Conclusion: I think remaining scum team is Keirathi/Milton or Gonzaw. I think Gonzaw's scumslip was just him seeing it spelled like that previously and then doing the same thing. I almost did it (actually I thought I had spelled his name milkton somewhere, but maybe I corrected it before posting) myself, so I don't actually think that's a scumslip, just a screwup. Mattchew has been playing pretty pro-town and I think he would have gotten behind a Risen lynch if he was scum. It would be all too easy for him to convince people that flipping me gives town the best shot.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:29 GMT
#1050
EBWOP: Vote formatting

##unvote
##vote: Keirathi
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:46 GMT
#1052
On July 18 2012 13:35 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 13:27 Risen wrote:
Why are you neglecting the possibility of strongandbig/s0Lstice being the mason. I'd like to think that the mason isn't one of those two so we have 4 confirmed townies but I now believe one of those two is the mason b/c I haven't seen a mason claim yet. This means only 3 confirmed townies which is still good, but I can wish it was 4.


I'm not negating the possibility, but 1) s0lstice was here so I'm not sure why he wouldn't have claimed already, and 2) I feel pretty certain that the Mason is sciberbia because of how hard he defended austin when austin started getting pressured d1.


Still doesn't explain how you could possibly think lynching me was the best idea for town lol. Mattchew pretty much nails it in his post "defending" me. (Is it really a defense if it's common sense?)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:48 GMT
#1053
Also waiting for anyone to respond to my thinking on milton. That being roleblocked claim makes no sense...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:52 GMT
#1056
On July 18 2012 13:50 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 13:48 Risen wrote:
Also waiting for anyone to respond to my thinking on milton. That being roleblocked claim makes no sense...


Do VTs get a message saying they were roleblocked? I've never been RB'd as a VT, so I wouldn't know, but I don't see a reason why they would since they don't have a role.


From the OP "All roleblocks will result in the target being notified."
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 04:55 GMT
#1057
I'm having a hard time believing a town gonzaw would have such a hard time understanding my claim, though..... >.>
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 05:02 GMT
#1060
On July 18 2012 13:57 Mattchew wrote:
Wait Risen, why dont you think gonzaw is scum anymore?


Why would Keirathi (my main scum read atm) push me like that knowing my flip gets gonzaw lynched ezpz. Wouldn't he try and push a lynch on someone else?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 05:03 GMT
#1061
EBWOP: Then again, I guess that just means he could be trying to save his teammate for another day for KP or something. I don't know why I didn't think about that.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 05:40 GMT
#1065
On July 18 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:
Basically my stance comes down to this:

There are 2 options:

1) Risen is actually cop.
How do we confirm that he's cop, when he doesn't have a scum read? If he had a scum read, we could lynch the read because we still have 2 mislynches to play with to test his claim. The only way to confirm his claim, and therefore investigations, is if he dies. But what motivation does mafia have to kill him, especially if they have a roleblocker (which we don't know, but Milton claimed, which I admit is suspicious).

2) Risen is fake claiming.
How do we confirm? When he dies, which obviously won't happen at night.




Even if we lynch gonzaw and he flips scum (which seems likely considering his outburst after the cop claim), that doesn't PROVE that Risen is cop, since Risen doesn't have a scum investigation on him. A fake claim into bussing a teamate isn't completely out of the realm of possibility. Literally the only way for your investigations to mean *ANYTHING* is if you die, which makes me question why you even decided to claim in the first place.


I was assuming the mason would claim. Also, I was assuming everyone would catch onto my #whatacopout which was probably a really bad decision in hindsight, but I wanted people to be confident in strongandbig as town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 05:40 GMT
#1066
Also, what are your thoughts on this roleblocker claim? The more I think about it the more scummy it looks.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 18 2012 05:55 GMT
#1069
On July 18 2012 14:46 Keirathi wrote:
I'm not really sure what to think.

I think ideally, I would like every single person to tell me that they weren't RB'd n1. If everyone says they weren't RB'd n1, then Milton getting RB'd is extremely, extremely suspicious and basically just told us he was scum.

I feel like maybe someone was RB'd though and just didn't know if they should claim it or not.


Who would think that? Why would someone be silent on that? That makes no sense...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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