I Can't Believe it's not Themed MiniMafia - Page 2

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gonzaw

Actually follows the plan - as I said seems rather townie. Especially the timing.

Mattchew: I dub mattchew "the poker-prodder". He keeps poking and prodding people. He's ultimately a null tell for me, as he is in every game I've ever seen him in. For a second I had him on my scummy list because of his "hey are you just actively lurking" post until now when I've re-read his filter and seen him poking at everyone. I am a bit surprised he's not voting for me - I think as scum he would have done that by now especially when he called me out like he did.

I also have a question for you, Mattchew:

What ever happened to your thoughts about austin? You never mention him again in your filter after this.

Risen: I agree with what solstice just said about his style. It's sort of impossible to read given his pre-game determination to change it. That said, his content has been incredibly lacking. He made his vote too early, he didn't explain it. Actually reading through his filter now he does seem really sketchy. Interested to see if and how he changes his vote today.

solstice: I really like the case marv made on him, actually, but for some reason I don't know if I can move beyond a null on him. Like I think the first half of his filter is scummy (the part marv showed), the second half townie. Overall he is playing fairly relaxed, which is usually a town indicator as well. On the other hand he's also been fairly focused on just a couple players, which is a scum indicator.

gonzaw: Aside from his "lol how does the setup work?" posts everything he's done screams townie to me. Like the amount of effort he's put in just seems excessive. Even I imagine myself with 100% free time I can't see myself doing that much work as scum.

marvellosity: Marv. How is it possible that he posts so much but I always forget he's in the game? It's not like his posts are bad they're usually pretty on point. I've never played against him as scum so I dunno what he does then, but his filter so far looks fairly like his town filters from the games I've played with him. He tends to have a lot of targets and switch frequently, often correcting himself as town and I see that here as well.

Vivax: Never played with him before. He's sort of in the solstice camp actually. First half of the filter is scummy. Especially the part where marv asked him to explain his feelings on matt and he was just like "here's filter do it yourself" LOL. On the other hand I like what he says about Milkton. On the third hand he's also playing rather focused. Null.

sciberbia: Sciberbia I am your biggest fan. I love the way you post. I have no idea what your alignment is but if everyone posted like you this game would be easy.

Keirathi: Well he's conditional town or conditional scum at this point. Like I think he was way too neutral in the beginning as someone else pointed out but he's also onto dropbear as I am.

Milktonkram: I think his case and vote on me are bs bs bs... but incredibly random. Like I don't know why he does that as scum. I actually can't figure him out at all to be honest.

strongandbig: dear god this is tiring to make lol no wonder no one ever follows my plans. Anyway. I think he's playing pretty freely. I think he was scum in space station? He was more uptight then.

I'm getting a little bit suspicious of talis because of his refusal to do anything constructive since he made his case on Dropbear.
Him appearing sporadically ever since, posting some irrelevant stuff and one-liners don't make me feel any good. Not only that he seemed to purposefully ignore the Vivax issue at all when he was active.

Basically, he "seeemed" pro town before this post:




But after that his play crumbled.

He spent a little time responding to Dropbear (more like responding to Dropbear's criticism though).




Completely removal from the current town discussion and just tries to stay on his little own world of him FoSing Dropbear and that's it. That seemed suspicious

After that he just seems to be "there"; not doing anything basically




This post raised some flags because how out of context it was (regarding talis' previous posts), and how sudden and weird.

Marv was being a pain in the ass to me (admit it >_> ) basically since the game started so him getting pissed about it made sense.
But talis never made any comment about me "going on about the setup" and shit, so what the hell does he mean when he says that? There's no context (like with marv) where I know how talis thinks about me.
Wtf is "how much of this stuff you can get away with"? What stuff?
This seemed very out of place.

Again, there was a Vivax vs Dropbear discussion going on and him posting this instead of trying to contribute to that discussion, he comes out of nowhere with an out of place post that doesn't do shit (it seriously reminds me of what S&B is doing this game, but I'll get to that later).

After that it's just a bunch of pointless one-liners about not wanting to switch and shit.
Like...they don't convince me at all; we are minutes before the lynch and he only has time to post some useless oneliners.
What about the informative posts he made at the beginning of the game? Where the hell are those?

This change in his play make me suspicious of him.
...however if Dropbear is scum it kinds of makes me doubt this suspicion as well (since that seemed a way too risky bus, since Dropbear COULD have been lynched).

....hmm, I'm starting to think that Dropbear might have been town after all and scum didn't really care about this lynch since it was between 2 townies. But I'll leave that out in the air and not dwell too much on that, Dropbear doesn't seem too townie to me and could easily be scum, but trying to make sense of this situation is kind of hard.

Oh well shit I'll make a post about S&B next (this took a while)

On July 14 2012 13:32 gonzaw wrote:
About S&B:

I want to lynch this guy tomorrow.

I've already posted some shit about his earlier posts (fluff and stuff)

I don't like how he's accusing me, discrediting me and flinging shit at me every time he can. The worst thing is that it has only to do with setup talk. That's the only thing he's posting about me when he's accusing me, here:







He only finds me suspicious because of the setup talk; and it's bullshit. Not only that but I already said he was way too overdramatic and "trying to be pro-town" with that last post of his.



Again I don't like these accusations he has of me (he has mentioned 0 substance on why I'm scum).

What's more, I don't like this "grudge" he has about me based on my play on MTG mafia (which he still refuses to explain).
That "grudge" seems fake as hell.
Every time I accuse him he acts all frustrated and posts "gonzaw you are always accusing me you are posting like a toilet, etc"
I already posted before that this seems fake, since there is NO indication for him to be that frustrated at me (seriously, check my filter and find any reason why he would be that frustrated, or why he would be this frustrated instead of Keirath or Dropbear whom I actually "tunneled" more than him, hell I never even voted S&B).

However he always finds the time to post that when I accuse him, and he just disregards everything I say with that.
That seems like an obvious attempt to reflect attention, I can't accuse him of anything since he posts "oh you are accusing me again", acts like I'm tunneling him for no reason similarly to other games, and just drops the subject

Scummy as fuck.

His defense didn't seem "townie" at all since he was needlessly aggressive:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147&currentpage=15#292

It reminded me of Risen's defense on LIII, where i accused him and he acted all offended, aggressive and mighty and call me shit and stuff (Risen was scum there).

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Oh wait I'm not done.

I'll say that S&B FoSed Keirathi initially, and then backed off him and that seems townie.
Yet he can still do it as scum so I won't take it into account (based on all the rest scummy stuff he did).



The tone of this post seems way too weird to me. With phrases like "trololol", the way he phrases stuff, etc don't make me think he's paying too much attention to the game or cares too much about it (if you disagree with this doesn't matter just ignore it).

His reads seem way too weird as well, and he doesn't really back them up at all (his read on me, vivex, etc).

His vote on solstice is very bad:



He's using meta ALONE about something IRRELEVANT (he asks "more insightful questions" when he's town, and he's "asking questions" here....how the hell is that relevant?)

It may seem like he did this post in a rush and was just reading stuff, thinking solstice was town, then rereading his filter and thinking he was scum and didn't have time to actually say why, but I don't really buy it.

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I already mentioned something about him in that talis post. He then posts sporadically and not interested in any discussion or being part of them at all.



I mean, he comes out of nowhere to manipulate marv into going against solstice again



Nice ninja-vote there that sealed Vivax's fate.


Like, he seems too scummy and nothing like his play in MTG (he was more active in discussion there, his posts made more sense, he wasn't this "trollish" and he didn't just post out of nowhere with random stuff and didn't care about the current discussion, at least not when he was active).

I could see him posting some stuff as town (like asking me about why I'm "not caring" about the setup, flip-flopping on his solstice read in that post seems like he was a townie changing his mind quickly, him backing off keiarth), but his attitude and content convince me otherwise.

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Sorry if this was long but I had a LOT of things to say about S&B