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On July 13 2012 01:39 talismania wrote: @austin you need to compare what you said not just to what marv said, but also to what mattchew said. I don't see what you added as any different from what mattchew said, just more longwinded.
now to digest the rest of that post...
Here's Matt's post
On July 12 2012 10:46 Mattchew wrote: Also, talis has the worst plan ever with his 3 people thing. That just allows people to half ass push some stupid reads and then connections theories run wild and everything turns to shit Gonna try not to poke at this past this post, because this isn't helpful and I still think that both stages of your plan are bad. Matt is worried about (1) stupid reads and (2) connection theories. Although my (2) is slightly like Matt's (1), I'm worried about (1) shitting up the thread later with whether not posting 3 cases is scummy and (2) voting based on suspicions quantity, not quality.
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On July 13 2012 01:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:
What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something?
No, he doesn't have to be townie. But I initially voted for him cause he didn't post anything, then he posted the metagame info and I found it good enough to unvote him. I remember sciberbia for more concise, compact posts, and I remember him posting really early. He already explained why he didn't post early in this game, so what remains are the posts that subjectively look different to me. But I prefer to not rely heavily on meta, my play changes often aswell and I don't have as much experience. Anyway, I don't like Matt's filter, it looks like he posts rather meaningless content, no active scumhunting in it, rather commenting on what other players already said. He also acts a little differently than in LVI. i dont think i've ever seen a game where matt posts meaningful content or does active scumhunting.
well, active scumhunting that isn't stupid.
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Early leader in the scummy stakes: Vivax.
Let's talk about metaaaaaaa.
On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote:
Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one. s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.
That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style.
Vivax says sciberbia doesn't look good for meta, also quotes s0lstices meta reason on scib. Gut feeling/overall style, more talking about meta.
On July 13 2012 01:49 Vivax wrote:
No, he doesn't have to be townie. But I initially voted for him cause he didn't post anything, then he posted the metagame info and I found it good enough to unvote him.
I remember sciberbia for more concise, compact posts, and I remember him posting really early. He already explained why he didn't post early in this game, so what remains are the posts that subjectively look different to me. But I prefer to not rely heavily on meta, my play changes often aswell and I don't have as much experience.
Anyway, I don't like Matt's filter, it looks like he posts rather meaningless content, no active scumhunting in it, rather commenting on what other players already said.
He also acts a little differently than in LVI.
Reason for unvoting strongandbig: because he talked about meta. Then talks more about sciberbia's meta. Later in the post he talks about Matt's meta.
But in the middle of this post he says "but I prefer to not rely heavily on meta". That's literally all he's posted about! Scummy contradiction, heyo!
##Vote: Vivax
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Marvellosity you have made so much sense so far that it makes me smile
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Marv do you think Vivax is scum or just being Vivax?
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EBWOP: Sounds dumb with your vote on him, but it's a serious question.
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I don't vote someone for being themselves.
See LVI where I did not vote Vivax.
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Am i relying heavily on meta like you want to suggest?
I'm looking at the general purpose of matt's posts. I voted for a lurking player until he unlurked with a substantial post.
I don't have the feeling that I have ignored the posted content to solely make cases based on meta. It plays a role, but not a big one.
Also respect for using 'being oneself' argument in a game that's all about written self-presentation. Clearly shows you're a vet, marv. I'm sure you know the true self of every player you've watched so far.
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How would you say Matt is acting differently to LVI?
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On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote: ##Vote Vivax
the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said?
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Marv I want to disagree with you so bad, but I was wrong about something JUST LIKE this is MTG mafia... hmm
I don't like the way sciberbia has been posting... it all seems forced as hell like the way he says
On July 12 2012 13:31 sciberbia wrote:gonzaw asked for some thoughts on Risen, strongandbig, and Mattchew. Obviously there is not much to go on yet, but here are my thoughts so far
He clarifies that he's only saying this cause gonzaw asked, kinda reads to me like hes paranoid about not answering a question in the thread
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That's not how it works. You claim he is posting differently. Now explain it to me and the rest of the thread.
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On July 13 2012 02:43 Mattchew wrote:Marv I want to disagree with you so bad, but I was wrong about something JUST LIKE this is MTG mafia... hmm I don't like the way sciberbia has been posting... it all seems forced as hell like the way he says Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 13:31 sciberbia wrote:gonzaw asked for some thoughts on Risen, strongandbig, and Mattchew. Obviously there is not much to go on yet, but here are my thoughts so far He clarifies that he's only saying this cause gonzaw asked, kinda reads to me like hes paranoid about not answering a question in the thread
What do you want to disagree with?
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I've had experience with Mattchew being scum, as we were both godfathers who flipped vigis in some other game I can't remember the name of. I think he's WAY, WAY, WAY more active and useful this game ALREADY than he was that game.
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On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said? I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy?
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if you mean this
On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:Vivax I am very confused as the reasoning behind your voting so far. Why did you choose strongandbig initially? Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote: @ NSH
It's cause of a habit. I just tend to expect links in underlined words <_<.
Back to the topic:
##unvote strongandbig Very informative post about marv there.
Wanted to vote Milton next but he posted. He tries to make himself pretty transparent by posting his games. It's a good sign, but nothing decisive.
Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one. s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.
That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style. What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something? What are the differences in sciberbia you talk about?
then I don't see you calling him suspicious, but just asking him questions. Implied suspicion I'll give you, but not calling him out as being suspicious by any means.
Also good to know you're just as angry as in bastard 2 :-)
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