Bureaucracy Mafia! - Page 41

On July 18 2012 00:48 sandroba wrote:

Sorry austinmcc, I refuse. Mafia has much more to gain from me claiming fully than town. Why exactly do you want to know?
I could be mafia as chairman/president and kurumi my minion since he has a power. I could be minion with this power and used it in such manner, which makes it the same effectiveness as if I were town using it.
Based on the information I presented to the thread is up to you to make a call on my alignment and kurumi's and I don't believe you need any extra information to make that call.

@kurumi If somehow you are town it's going to be a very sad day for me, but you must realize the way you reacted to that msg makes you 99.9999% mafia and we have no option but to lynch/kill you. Also nuking a person who has not posted yet is not exactly the most townie thing to do and that's what made me suspicious in the first place. If somehow you are town you should look at yourself first before accusing me of playing badly.
And you say I'm laying back and doing nothing when I'm one of the few arguing against the huge wagon on syllogism and actually trying to get BH lynched.

@palmar I think the likelyhood that nukes are real is greater outweighs the safety of a day1 guaranteed scum lynch. If mafia has some ability to redirect nukes so be it, we lynch kurumi tomorrow and BH today instead of the contrary. Speaking of BH, have you checked how he reacted when he returned to the thread after being accused? Do you really buy that?

On July 18 2012 00:55 sandroba wrote:


You've said that already, but why????

On July 18 2012 01:15 sandroba wrote:
I would reveal I've been msg'ed in thread. Or if I could come to the conclusion the msg came from a townie I would think about what he is trying to accomplish and not follow the instructions.

If you want something even more concrete, wait until like day 3. If his filter is 3 pages, then he's scum, if it's greater than 6 pages he's town. That's the failsafe "is Palmar mafia?" proof.

On July 18 2012 01:15 sandroba wrote:
I would reveal I've been msg'ed in thread. Or if I could come to the conclusion the msg came from a townie I would think about what he is trying to accomplish and not follow the instructions.

On July 18 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Bugs: Stop rolefishing.

Between BH and layabout, I much prefer to lynch layabout and here's why:

I believe in sandro's catch on Kurumi. Most of us do, right? So we're operating under the assumtion that scum minion A (Kurumi) has Power A (Nuclear Missile). By my estimation, a power that directly opposes a scum minion's power would, logically, be a town power. The scum team aren't in different factions, they're one BIG faction that don't know each other. So why in the dicks would scum minion B (BH) have scum power B (Anti-Missile) when Power B directly opposes Power A? It makes much more sense to logically assume that BH is town if we're accepting via behavioral analysis that Kurumi is scum.

Am I crazy here?

On July 18 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Bugs: Stop rolefishing.

Between BH and layabout, I much prefer to lynch layabout and here's why:

I believe in sandro's catch on Kurumi. Most of us do, right? So we're operating under the assumtion that scum minion A (Kurumi) has Power A (Nuclear Missile). By my estimation, a power that directly opposes a scum minion's power would, logically, be a town power. The scum team aren't in different factions, they're one BIG faction that don't know each other. So why in the dicks would scum minion B (BH) have scum power B (Anti-Missile) when Power B directly opposes Power A? It makes much more sense to logically assume that BH is town if we're accepting via behavioral analysis that Kurumi is scum.

Am I crazy here?

Layabout has been consistently useless and that's not like layabout. I'm good with a layabout lynch today. Not syllo. Sandro is right, the case on syllo is weak...and I would be just as opposed to a Foolish or WBG or Sandro lynch based on a weak case.

I can't tell what I think of Palmar yet, as his scumplay has taken a SHARP upturn from what we're used to. I need to see more of his intentions before I make a decision about his alignment.

##Vote: layabout

On July 18 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I believe in sandro's catch on Kurumi. Most of us do, right? So we're operating under the assumtion that scum minion A (Kurumi) has Power A (Nuclear Missile). By my estimation, a power that directly opposes a scum minion's power would, logically, be a town power. The scum team aren't in different factions, they're one BIG faction that don't know each other. So why in the dicks would scum minion B (BH) have scum power B (Anti-Missile) when Power B directly opposes Power A? It makes much more sense to logically assume that BH is town if we're accepting via behavioral analysis that Kurumi is scum.

Am I crazy here?

On July 18 2012 02:22 austinmcc wrote:
RoL has also launched a nuke at Kurumi. If Nuclear Missile is mafia-only, that means 2/6 minions had the nuclear missile power (assuming the top 3 don't have powers themselves). That seems like a stretch. I find it more likely that nukes were given to both town and mafia, or only town (although mafia probably has SOME kind of extra kp, given that they only get 1 per night?).

So I think you're wrong in assuming that all nukes are mafia, although if both Kurumi and RoL flip mafia maybe so. If not all nukes are mafia, then mafia might have a minion that can block.

On July 18 2012 02:26 HiroPro wrote:
Mind telling who you think is scum, austin?

On July 18 2012 02:19 Kurumi wrote:
Don't lynch layabout, that's mindless. This guy posted TWO TIMES. Everything he has done was to express some doubt in what happened. He did not attack sandroba, he asked questions. STOP voting layabout.

On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote:

PSA:
No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!

On July 18 2012 03:04 layabout wrote:
bah Sandro town Kurumi scum.

I must be over thinking things since none of you questioned mafia following a two line message of questionable intent when mafia can only have sent up to 3 messages that could have been as long as they liked and would have been their only method of communication.

Are we ignoring the nuke and just killing Kurumi then?

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lol

On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power.

On July 18 2012 03:04 layabout wrote:
bah Sandro town Kurumi scum.

since none of you questioned mafia following a two line message of questionable intent when mafia can only have sent up to 3 messages that could have been as long as they liked and would have been their only method of communication.

Are we ignoring the nuke and just killing Kurumi then?

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lol

On July 18 2012 03:16 supersoft wrote:


what are you talking about? You want to lynch kurumi despite of the nuke?
Did you even read the thread? I don't think so.
Your "I must be over thinking things" means nothing more than: "lul guys i have no idea what is going on and i hope i will somehow catch something i can comment on without you guys noticing that i have no idea whatsoever. + I am a lazy bum"