Normal Mini Mafia II

On July 06 2012 21:47 marvellosity wrote:


First person to attack the VT claim is scum.

Only works for ken though. So we're not lynching BL. Especially as he's one of the only players actually making an effort.

On July 07 2012 06:57 Zephirdd wrote:
Sinensis reactions?

This is his filter:


=_='

Where are you Sinensis.

On July 08 2012 13:03 Sinensis wrote:
Wow I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus for sticking to my gut (as per usual), and you guys go and kill someone completely different on nothing but gut and weak meta?

Keep an eye on those that switched votes from me to wiggles in my opinion.

That's sloosh, VE, and dangeresque. I would gamble one of them is mafia.

On July 08 2012 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:


As a townie, it occurs to me that anyone switching off of me would get townie points from me if the target flips town in the lynch in question. Why? Because it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to change from one townie to another and risk coming under scrutiny for late-switching. It makes much more sense, from a townie perspective, to assume that those who for whatever reason tried to find an alternative candidate and avoid a no-lynch scenario while switching off a known townie (myself) are town.

Fundamentally, it should make no sense from a scum perspective to switch late onto another townie, if Sinensis were town. That's why I think he's viewing the game from a different perspective - from a scum perspective.

On July 10 2012 11:55 Zephirdd wrote:


thoughts on VE?

On July 11 2012 02:51 Dangeresque77 wrote:
the problem is that we have better reason for lynching you
and for the fact that still you arnt defending yourself your just trying to switch our target to mrzentor and sin

On July 08 2012 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:


As a townie, it occurs to me that anyone switching off of me would get townie points from me if the target flips town in the lynch in question. Why? Because it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to change from one townie to another and risk coming under scrutiny for late-switching. It makes much more sense, from a townie perspective, to assume that those who for whatever reason tried to find an alternative candidate and avoid a no-lynch scenario while switching off a known townie (myself) are town.

Fundamentally, it should make no sense from a scum perspective to switch late onto another townie, if Sinensis were town. That's why I think he's viewing the game from a different perspective - from a scum perspective.

On July 08 2012 16:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
You're saying you're town right Sin?

Why would scum switch from you, town, to drwiggl3s, also town? You said it yourself, the case was relatively weak, why would scum bother to switch at all? Doesn't it make more sense for scum to park their vote on you, with the actual case and vocal townies speaking out in opposition of?

That's how I'd see it Sin, and I'm town. That's why I think your reasoning is scummy. Because you don't see it the same way I'd see it, and I know I'm town.

On July 11 2012 08:35 Dangeresque77 wrote:

So you're a terrorist now?

On July 11 2012 09:14 Zephirdd wrote:


Here is the deal marvie.

There are 9 players.
3 of them are scum.
there are 6 on your lynch.

Even if one scum is bussing you and one town is not on your lynch, the possible resistance that can be offered has been offered. Your voters are a confirmed Vigilante, a confirmed Jailer, a claimed cop, me(town!), a stubborn player following his town meta and a what-i-think-to-be-scum-bussing-you.

The non voters are you(duh), Bluelightz and MrZentor, where MrZentor also has a huge case on him and bluelightz is always a question mark.

How do you expect there to be resistance?

On July 11 2012 09:34 Zephirdd wrote:
Hmmmm

marv, bluelightz, sloosh, D77, Sinensis, prplhz.

Three of you, are you online?

I'm pretty sure three of you are. Sloosh said he was online. bluelightz just posted. marv is here too, I know you won't miss the lynch.

I've been looking at the Zentor lynch. I know it feels weird to say that, but would you switch to Zentor?
Things like this


make me feel uneasy to just let him go. I don't think he ever explained this. Why would you post a list of three players at night if not to make a scum list? Why would you post a list at all? Note how he made the list before marv claimed vigi - which means he wasn't confirmed.

This:


Appealing to Emotion on a less vocal player, trying to make him feel uneasy of his read.


VE has been quite active lately. Most of us have just been looking down to him. But what was the reasoning to switch out of Zentor? This feels like a mistake? That's bullshit.

I hate to say this marv, but we've been following your gut too hard. We've been lazy. If VE flips town, everyone is going to be demoralized and we're going to LYLO the next day.

We have 6 votes on VE. I will switch into Zentor and leave to you decide since I'll probably not be around here at deadline(tuesday party time hooray). With 5 votes, a lynch is doable.

If I recall correctly, the general sentiment on the thread is that both of them are scum. As long as there is not a no-lynch, we're fine, right?

Seriously, I invite everyone to re-read Zentor's filter and reconsider it, as well as reading the last few posts by VE.

##unvote
##vote MrZentor

On July 11 2012 09:34 Zephirdd wrote:
Sloosh said he was online.

On July 11 2012 09:34 Zephirdd wrote:
Sloosh said he was online.

On July 11 2012 09:41 slOosh wrote:
Don't let the passive aggressive get to you. I'm not going to switch if you are actually wavering in your read of VE, since it means he will be alive D3 and probably marv's gonna get shot and I dunno if you have the guts to pull off a VE lynch.

Striking parallel between this and Pick Your Poison, where Radfield pushed for Toad.

I know I said I'd be fine with lynching both, but not if you are starting to think VE could be town, because that will hurt us so much late game.

As I said, I'll be here to deadline.

On July 11 2012 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv in response to your case:

Re: Not typical town play =/= Typical town play

What I was referring to was people holding up my town play to some high standard. My town play is balls, and everyone knows it. I wasn't saying I'm playing to my meta, in fact I'm playing pretty fucking far from my typical town meta. But I'm sick and tired of reading people complain about how many pages there are and how much spam I cause and "why can't you just condense?". Sure I can make myself look green by spamming the thread my typical way, but what good is that if no one else is able to read the thread and stay interested in the game?

The problem with that is that I don't know HOW to get information any other way. I'm trying, but I'm finding it difficult. I don't know what else to say on the matter.

Re: No input re: Sinensis
I mean, I don't know what to say to this.





I'll admit to a fair amount of coasting on D1 - I think almost anyone from the US would do the same, as it was the 4th for us. However, I WAS around...I just wasn't analyzing and posting as much as I would have been if it were like...any other Wednesday. When we couldn't reach a consensus on my gut read Sin, I was fine with a lurker lynch in DrWiggl3s.

When I had more time and more to go on, I provided my reasoning for Sinensis, which was absolutely original. I don't know why Marv left this out of his case, he's generally more thorough.

In Closing
We can make a no-lynch happen. I prefer to move the lynch to one of slOosh/Sin...I won't ask you guys to lynch prplhz today without one more chance to get a report (if he's actually town)...but again I stress that his target last night was awful and the fact that scum didn't try to hide their roleblocker under a kill is....suspicious.

I'm Town. Dreamer. One of you.

On July 10 2012 00:29 slOosh wrote:
marv I said his game could be over in the sense that the scum theme of this game is apathy / laziness. Am I ripping off what incognito did in Mafia L? Yea. drwiggl3s flips town. I can see how Sinensis could be stubborn / unco-operative town this game. prplhz looks townish to me. Therefore from scum perspective town is totally wrong and they don't really have to risk vocally doing something noticeable. Kinda like how after the bout in Movie Mini was over scum were easy to pick off.

We have what, 3 blue claims? From my perspective all I have to do is pick out 3 scum from 7 players and evaluate the blue claims. And I think all three claims are looking legit. I was toying with the idea that it wouldn't make sense from balance, but that would be pointless because 3 blues could be sensible depending on scum roles, of which the only we could know of beside lynching & flipping is an rber.


I was and very much am for a MrZentor lynch as well.
##Vote: MrZentor

On July 11 2012 01:02 slOosh wrote:
I don't care who we lynch, I think they are both scum.

This is before D2 starts.



On that note I don't trust prplhz for his 3rd subtle accusation against me. Really, that last line

is totally unnecessary for the post he made. It's casting doubt on me, its a misinterpretation (I never called him as such, the vote switch happened much earlier in the day following marv's pressure on MrZentor), and defends MrZentor as an "easy" target. For someone who overly uses the phrases "I don't really know what to think", "This really seems", "I think you might be" concerning MrZentor's alignment, blatantly calling him an easy target is a huge contradiction.

Based on this alone, I speculate a prplhz, VE, MrZentor team with MrZentor as rber based on how the day has been playing out and the lynch direction has been going. However we lynch one scum at a time. I'm comfortable with lynching all three as individuals, and even more so as a team. I also want to consolidate. I'll be trusting marv's and Zephirdd's judgements here. My preference however goes to MrZentor based on how they are keen to redirect the lynch.

##Unvote MrZentor
##Vote VisceraEyes
(I'll be checking up online all day so consider my vote good on whoever).

On July 11 2012 09:41 slOosh wrote:
Don't let the passive aggressive get to you. I'm not going to switch if you are actually wavering in your read of VE, since it means he will be alive D3 and probably marv's gonna get shot and I dunno if you have the guts to pull off a VE lynch.

Striking parallel between this and Pick Your Poison, where Radfield pushed for Toad.

I know I said I'd be fine with lynching both, but not if you are starting to think VE could be town, because that will hurt us so much late game.

As I said, I'll be here to deadline.