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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#878
Should have refreshed as I didn't see prplhz case before I posted, I will review it now.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 26 2012 20:33 GMT
#898
I just read through Shraft's filter, and it isn't a strong one but I get a slight town read off him so i would rather lynch one of the much more scummy targets
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 26 2012 20:50 GMT
#903
On June 27 2012 05:39 prplhz wrote:
@rastaban Can you get a little more concrete than just "I read his filter" into "Town"?

Sure
So Day 1 you mentioned that he did pursue his vote one me, but he actually didn't want to vote for either of us and wanted to try and get a new target. Knowing as I do that I am town, and as well all do that zentor was town, I can't fault him for that though I can understand why this might not seem as compelling to you

next we have this post
On June 25 2012 10:30 Shraft wrote:
risk.nuke you need to step up your game. Wanting to lynch lurers and then lurking hard yourself makes you look bad. On top of that your only substantial post is the one where you defend yourself (you never followed up on that post either, despite saying that you would). Why would you even bother defending that hard when nobody agreed with his case anyway? You ask for the other lurkers to share their reads and to contribute, but you do nothing of the kind yourself. Aside from lurkers, you're only suspicious of rastaban (but you haven't really shared much thought on him either, it looks more like OMGUS to me).

And what the fuck is this?
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 07:51 risk.nuke wrote:
Rastaban if you really are townie (which I don't think you are) you dodged a lynch last night and seeing how we mislynched a townie that makes the situation even worse for you. My point is if you don't want to die soon you should do something more usefull then dumb shit tunneling.

He would've tried to dodge the lynch regardless of his alignment, why do you act as if it is a scum tell?

he pushes risk and defends me. Why would he do this unless he really meant what he had said the day before. Also I would think scum would be less likely to point out I would have tried to dodge the lynch regardless as it lessens suspicion on me who was likely to be pushed day 2.

On June 27 2012 02:06 Shraft wrote:
In my sleep drunken state of insanity I'm actually starting to believe that marv is somehow town... I'm going to research his play in the coming hour, and then I'll come back and post my findings. How long do we have left on the day? A couple of hours, right?

He is being wishy washy on marv a bit, but I am too as is a lot of town. This lynch is a hard one to call with marv, half the time I want to kill him and half I think he defense seems legit. Thats why I currently would rather let mafia shoot him tonight if possible and make that decision for us.

I don't see it as conclusive that he isn't scum, but I think we have a lot more obvious targets right now other than him.
Hope that clears it up a bit.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 26 2012 20:59 GMT
#907
On June 27 2012 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 05:50 rastaban wrote:
Thats why I currently would rather let mafia shoot him tonight if possible and make that decision for us.


What??? If I survive the night, why would mafia shoot me?!


Well there were 2 roleblocks night one, so lets go with that for now. 1 was the jailer, so that leaves only 1 roleblocker left. Now both town or mafia can have a role blocker. If it is town, then they need to kill you or you get confirmed when you shoot, if it is mafia then he blocks you but we force the mafia to spend their night block on you b/c if someone else claims to have been RBed then we know you are lying and that your shot didn't work.

The detective could also check you if we have one...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 00:46 GMT
#975
Marv how many bullets do you have?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#980
Hey guys guess what both marvellosity and VisceraEyes have in common!
+ Show Spoiler +

HINT:
On June 27 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote:
you shouldn't lynch me because i'm town. and fingers crossed my vigi shot should mostly confirm me as town and mafia will have to kill me off at some point. and hopefully if i am alive i'll be able to find scum, because i'm not too bad at that.

On June 27 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh - you didn't really think that through. You're never ever going to get a vig-shot. Ever. If you're town, scum are going to roleblock you until the cows come home (which is a long ass time, for those not familiar with American colloquialisms.)

You're going to keep on living each night, and each morning you'll be saying "Guys I swear I'm a vig...it's this damned ROLEBLOCKER!"

Town isn't going to have any choice but to lynch you because not only have you had myself and Probulous on your shit since D1, but you're going to look even worse if/when I get nightkilled and flip town. Town is GOING TO HAVE to kill you. It's just a matter of when.

The correct answer was "Tomorrow if I get Roleblocked".

On June 27 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Just because you're on my shit doesn't make me any less town. Town either believes I'm town now and that I got roleblocked or they don't.

You're pushing the idea that I have to be lynched now because it could cause trouble later. No, you only lynch me now if town is convinced I'm scum.

That is the correct answer my friend.

+ Show Spoiler +

Neither has read the Vigilante role text
You are the most conservative member of town, and as such you really enjoy exercising your 2nd Amendment rights to shoot criminals in the face. You have a gun with X bullets and you may shoot if you so wish at night. You are never refunded a bullet under any circumstances. You win when all the mafia have ceased to breathe.

If they had they would know the bullet didn't get refunded and so he only needs blocked 1 night.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 00:57 GMT
#982
Sorry, I wanted to believe
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

##unvote
##vote marvellosity
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 01:06 GMT
#992
On June 27 2012 10:04 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 09:54 rastaban wrote:
Hey guys guess what both marvellosity and VisceraEyes have in common!
+ Show Spoiler +

HINT:
On June 27 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote:
you shouldn't lynch me because i'm town. and fingers crossed my vigi shot should mostly confirm me as town and mafia will have to kill me off at some point. and hopefully if i am alive i'll be able to find scum, because i'm not too bad at that.

On June 27 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh - you didn't really think that through. You're never ever going to get a vig-shot. Ever. If you're town, scum are going to roleblock you until the cows come home (which is a long ass time, for those not familiar with American colloquialisms.)

You're going to keep on living each night, and each morning you'll be saying "Guys I swear I'm a vig...it's this damned ROLEBLOCKER!"

Town isn't going to have any choice but to lynch you because not only have you had myself and Probulous on your shit since D1, but you're going to look even worse if/when I get nightkilled and flip town. Town is GOING TO HAVE to kill you. It's just a matter of when.

The correct answer was "Tomorrow if I get Roleblocked".

On June 27 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Just because you're on my shit doesn't make me any less town. Town either believes I'm town now and that I got roleblocked or they don't.

You're pushing the idea that I have to be lynched now because it could cause trouble later. No, you only lynch me now if town is convinced I'm scum.

That is the correct answer my friend.

+ Show Spoiler +

Neither has read the Vigilante role text
You are the most conservative member of town, and as such you really enjoy exercising your 2nd Amendment rights to shoot criminals in the face. You have a gun with X bullets and you may shoot if you so wish at night. You are never refunded a bullet under any circumstances. You win when all the mafia have ceased to breathe.

If they had they would know the bullet didn't get refunded and so he only needs blocked 1 night.



AMAZING CATCH!

What does it say? Like seriously how is this useful? The whole point of the discussion is that there is no way marv can confirm himself. How does this help us clear that up?

If your actually vig you would have read your role, ergo he doesn't have the vig role.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 01:07 GMT
#994
Now maybe you believe what he is saying, but if you don't believe he read the role, then it means that he isn't vig
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 01:12 GMT
#995
I am fine with a mattchew or marv lynch actualy. Reading your defensive post marv, I can see VE was doing more of the assuming but I still think you would have corrected him. Can you tell me if that line appears in your role PM? I know you cant post the PM but can you confirm or deny?

I need to review the vote counts as I would rather either of you be lynched than a no lynch.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#997
Updated with snarfs and I's vote changes. marv did you vote?
On June 27 2012 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count - 5 Hours to go
risk.nuke (0): Rastaban
Zephirdd (RIP) (0): Snarfs
rastaban (1): xsksc
VisceraEyes (0): marvellosity
marvellosity (5): VisceraEyes, Shraft, Mattchew, Rastaban, Snarfs,
xsksc (1): risk.nuke
Shraft (1): prplhz
Mattchew (1): Snarfs, Rastaban
Not voted (2): marvellosity, Probulous,



xsksc,risk.nuke,prplhz
You guys need to start deciding on a candidate to push as an alternative, splitting out your votes is pointless right now.


Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 02:01 GMT
#1037
Bah, marv your response on wanting to shoot VE last night and messaging wbg was more town than anything else you said.

##unvote
##vote Mattchew
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 02:04 GMT
#1045
On June 27 2012 11:02 Probulous wrote:
Well assuming, Snarfs, Probulous, VE, Marvellosity, Shraft, we need one more.

Don't forget little ol'e me
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 02:31 GMT
#1074
I am still here, just refreshing while I am watching big bang right now.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 02:33 GMT
#1076
On June 27 2012 10:29 prplhz wrote:
it's like 3am and i can't make rational decisions anymore

yes, sloosh jailed me during night1 and that should be pretty obvious if you read his god damn filter (and mine)

i don't even know what this refundability thing means

i don't want to no lynch so i'm just going to vote marvellosity. he could be scum and it's weird that he used the night to flip flop when vigilantes usually use it to make up their mind.

going to pass out for a while if you don't mind


Is this the prpl post in question? and is there more to the case than this? Sorry It has been a while since I reviewed his filter.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 03:14 GMT
#1094
On June 27 2012 12:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We'll probably lynch prplhz next, is that okay? :/

Honestly I'd rather lynch him now - we have an hour, can we make it happen?

X(

I think marv has gone to bed so not sure it is possible and I prefer a Matt lynch. I need to do some more reading of prplhz to come to a conclusion as I think his last post could make sense when it is very late and you hate no lynches. I would the same thing unless I was positive the guy was scum. Also it is hard to stand your ground with so many other people certain someone is scum.

He might be scum but I would need more time to read his posts, I think it is a great topic for tonight or once day starts. .
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 03:16 GMT
#1095
Ebwop
I would do the same thing unless i was positive the guy wasn't scum.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 03:20 GMT
#1098
On June 27 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote:
Yeah that's a really bad post rastaban

Care to explain why? You think a no lynch is better than a lynch when unsure? Unless I was sure someone is innocent I would much rather have a lynch.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 03:30 GMT
#1101
On June 27 2012 12:25 Mattchew wrote:
Anyone notice the amount of no-reason votes on me and then disappear acts pulled for this lynch. Its bullshit

And yet I who posted a reason and am not hiding Is your number one read. How about if you are really town contribute on who else you think is scum instead of Adding nothing and repeating lynch Rastaban over and over again?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 27 2012 03:39 GMT
#1105
On June 27 2012 12:32 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 12:20 rastaban wrote:
On June 27 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote:
Yeah that's a really bad post rastaban

Care to explain why? You think a no lynch is better than a lynch when unsure? Unless I was sure someone is innocent I would much rather have a lynch.


The fence couldn't be farther up your ass if you tried. You agreed completely with his actions to the point that you would do the same but he could be scum

Matt your only chance is to convince people that xsksc is scum. I mean your most active point in the game is right near the deadline of your lynch. Be realistic, we don't have enough people to lynch prpl, or rastaban or anyone other than you or xsksc. Unless you are pushing for a no-lynch what are you doing?

The fence couldn't be farther up your ass if you tried.
Haven't heard that one before . Does it mean I am oblivious or that I incriminated myself?

I am saying I don't find his last post incriminating and I would do the same. That is why I need to spend time reading everything else as maybe he has been scummy in other ways but I can't fault him for that last post. If you were in his situation What would you have done at that point stayed on shraft?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
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