[T] MTG Mini Mafia - Page 23

On June 28 2012 08:07 Oberyn wrote:



Well...Greymist doesn't have any lands left...so I don't see why we would need scum's help >_> <_<

Although being serious, I can't see anyone other than Zealos (if he's scum) completely object with this plan if EVERYBODY else agrees with it (those that give land of course).
By the way I planned it up there, Zealos can only object to ME having the "Cloned" 8/8 beast, not Nova having it. If everybody except him agrees....we can threaten to use Nova's beast on him if he doesn't.


Yes, we should discuss it all we want, as much as we can. We have all the time in the world, we don't need to rush.
But like I said, nobody should play anything yet because if they do we lose the chance of getting these 2 8/8 beasts out completely (even if they cast a spell with 1 mana cost).


Also WBG, what do you think of Grey? I think he may be scum, please give me your opinion on this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345422&currentpage=21#405

And this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345422&currentpage=21#419

Specially because Greymist already tapped ALL his lands as soon as the turn started, which seems quite a coincidence taking into account the global enchantment we have today

On June 28 2012 06:56 Oberyn wrote:
Maybe we could force Zealos to tap his land to use it as well


Speaking of which:


@Greymist: Why did you put your cards out so soon and already tapped our your lands? What's the rush? Did you even look at the global enchantment? Had you waited to make your play we could have used your mana for something. Did you not care about it?


I don't like this

People, if you have a play in mind, don't instantly do it as soon as the Turn starts, because anything can happen that may make you change your mind. Wait as much as possible or until you are sure to make it.

If "town plans" can be made (like the "tap your land to give mana to someone else" one), then if you tap all your lands and cast your spells instantly you avoid the responsibility to take part of the plan or not.

For instance, Greymist can now come and say "Omg gonzaw that's the best plan ever! Oh, sorry I don't have any lands to tap, so I guess we can't make that plan after all, what a waste!" and we would never know if he would have actually followed the plan if he had his lands untapped (if he was scum for instance)

don't call me scum because im playing my deck the best way possible with the cards in my hand and not giving away charity to those who i don't trust

m all for helping out people who need lands, its a great advantage for the town.

but also it is a great advantage for the mafia. we don't have a way of knowing if the lands that im giving you (that would have made it impossible to further my own progress, as they are my lands after all) are going to go towards helping us or killing us.

on another note, the particular deck that i am using requires me to make the most of every turn and every mana so that i can actually make a difference in the game.

don't call me scum because im playing my deck the best way possible with the cards in my hand and not giving away charity to those who i don't trust

Why is "your" deck important and why isn't the deck of others important?

On June 28 2012 08:33 Oberyn wrote:
Greymist/Dangeresque......don't you think both me and Nova are town?



Wouldn't that mean you trust us? We are the guys that have the 8/8 beasts that can fuck up scum in 1 turn, so why would you say this?


I dunno why but that post just screams mafia.
Specially the tone of it; you are just SO aggressive even though I don't know if you have posted yet (Grey's bro).
You also just came into existance in the thread to:
1)Only defend yourself
2)Discredit the pro-town plan being discussed using flimsy reasons
3)Be very aggressive and most likely trying to cause emotion and disrupt
4)....nothing else.



lol you said exactly what I expected you'd say.
If you are "all for helping out people who need lands", then why did you guys INSTANTLY tap all of your lands 1 second into D2?



2 townies having 8/8 trample beasts is a "great advantage" for the mafia because......sorry I'm lost here.

Remember, all the "mana" will be going to us both, nobody else will get any mana, so the WORST thing scum can do is not give mana, that's it.



Why? You seem to be playing for yourself here. Why is "your" deck important and why isn't the deck of others NOT important? You think you can win the game by yourself? That would be incredibly selfish of you, wouldn't it?

You say that you need to "make the most out of every turn and every mana" so you can make a difference?
Dude, I'm the guy with the WORST FUCKING DECK POSSIBLE (even kita told me this) and because I'm cooperating with town I just came up with the plan that will win us the game, so please thoroughly explain why you think that "playing for yourself" is the way to go in this game



This just screams "I won't be telling town anything about my deck or what I'll do" to me, which is....as you can see....obvious mafia behavior this game.


Sorry dude, this post has me like 80% convinced you are mafia, even though it's from a guy that never (I think) posted in this thread.

On June 28 2012 08:39 Promethelax wrote:
EBWOP: wait! I'm an idiot. They didn't know what the global enchantment was. That would be too much foresight. I'm in if the rest of town is in too.

On June 28 2012 08:38 GreYMisT wrote:
But I already told you about my deck and what I'll be doing with it....

Remember that post?

On June 28 2012 08:45 Promethelax wrote:
GreY: I seriously don't trust you this game. Can you give us some reads, some gut feelings or your own plan. Anything that we can hold you to if you are scum or discuss if you are town.

The more information town has the better, so why hold out?

On June 28 2012 08:53 Oberyn wrote:


I totally forgot about other people casting lands! (you, Zealos and Fulla)

Omg, we can do other things as well! We can summon WB-G's 4/4 trample monster as well for instance!

Once everybody cast their lands (without casting anything else of course) and agree with the plan, we can decide what to do with the left-over mana (because we don't know if people drew lands or not, for instance Matt didn't).




It didn't come out as good as I hoped, I meant that you wouldn't tell town "what" you would be doing (what plans you would do to catch scum).
Yes, you can always say "Tomorrow I'll play 1 land and a sliver"....but you never state what your intentions are, why you are doing what you are (and not doing something else), you won't let town know and you won't let town influence you.
Basically you are telling people "Just ignore me please!"
If you have 2 creatures, why would you summon one and not the other? What plan do you have? Does it have an ability to help you kill someone you think is scum? Will it help support other players you think are town? Will it prepare you for the future?
I dunno, telling us "I'll play a Headless Sliver that increases my attack by +1 and lets me return the land of someone to its hand" doesn't tell me absolutely anything about why you played it.

Also thank you for quoting a wall of text for basically nothing

On June 28 2012 09:10 GreYMisT wrote:


Again: I already said I have 1 sliver in my deck that helps others. I will play this sliver if possible as soon as possible. It is called Cautery sliver and allows me to prevent damage to other players.

You guys really need to try harder. this is just sad

On June 28 2012 09:14 Oberyn wrote:



Does it prevent the Mafia KP Beast damage?

...if not then why does it matter? In this game people will be attacking those they think is scum....why would preventing the damage of someone you/town think is scum any good?
Sorry, that's not "helping town".

You guys really need to try harder.



@WB-G: Yeah if it wasn't for that AEther Spellbomb of yours I wouldn't have been to sure in the case Nova was scum (I'll be dead soon so my AEther Spellbomb won't really matter, but you'll be alive, at least for 3-4 turns). But if you have that spell, and nobody outs himself as scum to destroy it, then you can take down the 8/8 beasts whenever you feel me/Nova are doing something scummy with the beast.

On June 28 2012 09:42 Oberyn wrote:


It prevents 1 damage only?

lol I thought it prevented the WHOLE attack
lol don't even bother, it's not worth it (even if it "prevents" the Mafia KP's damage)

On June 28 2012 09:47 Oberyn wrote:
Yeah, 2 8/8 trample beasts in the possession of town are certainly "better than nothing"

...although 1 damage prevention would be good, since I can die once the Mafia Beast has 12/1 power. If 1 damage is prevented, then I'd be left with 1 HP but at least I'd survive 1 more turn.

If you get that card put it out ASAP please, specially if I have my 8/8 trample beast out.

....or you won't if you are scum...whatever.